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Re: MJS and Letroy Guion story 

Post#21 » by MickeyDavis » Sun Nov 1, 2015 5:19 pm

A quick check didn't turn up anything. Jim Cohen went from here to Philly to Espn back to Philly and then the NFL Network in 2011. So it could be his son. And you're right he did a lot of that kind of reporting
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Post#22 » by WiscoKing13 » Sun Nov 1, 2015 5:34 pm

Guion got arrested the first week of February, how did it take them 9 months to write this? They had ample to find out all this information over that time and decided the bye week was the best week to do this? Also curious how this is Cohen and Mcginn's piece, why didn't this go to Nickel? Furthermore why did JS leave their brand new reporter out to hang when you have Nickel, Silverstien and Mcginn?

On the note of packer people or high standards of morality to be a Packers. We all ready know it's bull, it's more like Mcginn is beating a dead horse. Off the top of my head Robinson, Lyeria(sp), Underwood, Quarless, and Guion have either been on the team when an issue happend or signed after knowing there's an issue. This isn't something that's brand new.

Also when a guy is having issues around the league it's always stated, go to green bay. There's nothing to do in that town and it's easier to stay out of trouble, so shouldn't we take more of those guys in according to the media?
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Re: MJS and Letroy Guion story 

Post#23 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Nov 1, 2015 5:46 pm

Who are these people who are claiming the Packers to be above signing the proverbial "bad" guys? McGinn is making an argument against JS commenters.
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Post#24 » by BUCKnation » Sun Nov 1, 2015 5:53 pm

Yeah, if anything the sense is that we should be taking on these kind of guys (in small doses) because the Packers have the franchise infrastructure to handle these guys and the city lends itself more toward limiting bad behavior. I'm sure if we had signed Greg Hardy, he would be looking for a job right now instead of having TT, or whoever, standing up for him in the media.
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Post#25 » by WiscoKing13 » Sun Nov 1, 2015 6:13 pm

Also if they were going to go after a guy shouldn't it of been the Quarless situation, didn't he discharge a firearm? I'm shocked they brought him back.
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Post#26 » by emunney » Sun Nov 1, 2015 6:14 pm

Packers are **** up big time by escalating this.

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Post#27 » by WiscoKing13 » Sun Nov 1, 2015 6:17 pm

emunney wrote:Packers are **** up big time by escalating this.

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Yeah I agree with this. MM was right to call it a garbage article. I understand what the OL guys were doing, obviously more to the story if that was brought down my management. I don't know what Rob Davis was thinking, but I think that's a fireable action IMO.
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Post#28 » by emunney » Sun Nov 1, 2015 6:23 pm

The national guys are going to eat up the Rob Davis thing and loop McCarthy into it. It could be in the cycle for a while and all they had to do was no comment and business as usual. There's nothing else to talk about except what they've now created.

I understand McCarthy defending his player, but the PR guy should have given him the heads up to just shut it down. Rob Davis is just a goon if McGinn's report is accurate, and I don't see why McGinn would lie. I'm curious as to who Davis thought Cohen was and why he felt it was appropriate to behave that way toward whomever that is.

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Post#29 » by WiscoKing13 » Sun Nov 1, 2015 6:26 pm

emunney wrote:I understand McCarthy defending his player, but the PR guy should have given him the heads up to just shut it down.

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Well the PR guys must of known it was coming because I believe in the article it says the packers chose not to comment on the article. So whatever plan they had for dealing with this issue was awful.
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Re: MJS and Letroy Guion story 

Post#30 » by Ayt » Sun Nov 1, 2015 7:07 pm

emunney wrote:The national guys are going to eat up the Rob Davis thing and loop McCarthy into it. It could be in the cycle for a while and all they had to do was no comment and business as usual. There's nothing else to talk about except what they've now created.

I understand McCarthy defending his player, but the PR guy should have given him the heads up to just shut it down. Rob Davis is just a goon if McGinn's report is accurate, and I don't see why McGinn would lie. I'm curious as to who Davis thought Cohen was and why he felt it was appropriate to behave that way toward whomever that is.

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Are national people talking about it now. I see an article on NBCSports about it.

I'm not sure what the point of the article is supposed to be. The Packers have had players who have gotten in trouble with the law since TT took over. Two major examples are Koren Robinson, and, more recently, Johnny Jolly.
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Re: MJS and Letroy Guion story 

Post#31 » by paulpressey25 » Sun Nov 1, 2015 7:42 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:A quick check didn't turn up anything. Jim Cohen went from here to Philly to Espn back to Philly and then the NFL Network in 2011. So it could be his son. And you're right he did a lot of that kind of reporting


Jim Cohen was a key part of the turn at the Journal back in the early 80's from "rah rah go Packers" coverage to "This organization is poorly run and it starts at the top" stuff.

I remember a core group of fans hating it. "Deez reporters is horrible how dey criticize the fine Packers. We'd win more games if these dudes didn't keep talking about all these bad things going on"

Of course all that being said, since the Packers are 6-0, not sure this type of reporting needed at the moment.
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Re: MJS and Letroy Guion story 

Post#32 » by HKPackFan » Mon Nov 2, 2015 11:07 am

For me it's the timing that's annoying. Digging up old stuff. No one was busted over the bye week.

Also McGinn wrote something similar last year when he was extremely upset about the Packers picking up Lylera. Why is he so upset about this? Did he have tinted glasses about the Packers being holier than thou and suddenly after Lylera his personal bubble burst and he thought, "Hey! This isn't the Packer way!!" And now he's on a crusade?

The Packers have had problems at average or slightly below average of every team in the NFL. No team has 53 players who are all receiving outstanding citizen awards. We've had plenty of minor issues, Ahman Green had a couple minor incidents, the Horrible Erik Walden took a dump on the field after his gf domestic issues. Others mentioned Johnny Jolly's addiction to PURPLE DRANK and Koren Robinson DUI's. Didn't Clitoris Hunt get busted for weed back in the day? There have been a bunch more, Jolly was in friggin prison!!! He went from orange suit to Green & Gold it was a big story about second chances. Was Mcginn on a mission to blast the Packers for that and the Koren pickup back then?

The Packers have preached 2nd chances PLENTY of TIMES over the years and giving a guy a chance to clean himself up and having a shot at redemption. So all those years the Packers were transparent about it, but suddenly starting with Colt, McGinn is upset.

It's almost like McGinn was living in some fallacy thinking the Packers have a standard of only hiring the cleanest guys in the NFL and since his standard isn't being met now he has a vendetta. He can STFU for all I care.

If Rob Davis did what is written that's the dumbest thing ever, what a fool. Let is go and let it die, don't react, it's like punching the paparrazi you are just blowing up the story and making it bigger and feeding the damn thing. McGinn's article was he said/she said TMZ drama and I found it extremely poor taste.

I absolutely DON'T MIND if JSONLINE is not kissing the asses of Packers management. I don't mind if they critique Dom Capers, if they ask if Lacy is fat, if they question the play calling etc.

I loved last week's X's and O's showing the LBs screwing up coverage against SD, and showing Rodgers missing a wide open Cobb on another play. I love seeing that stuff.

I just don't want this TMZ style of journalism and digging up the past.
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