2016 NBA Draft/College Basketball Thread

Post #241 » by **Duke4life831** » Fri Oct 30, 2015 10:04 am

This years draft class is considered weak for 3 different reasons. It's not nearly as deep as this past years draft. And the 17 draft has a chance to be as good as the 03 draft. So being surrounded by two great classes and maybe one super class makes it look weak. Plus outside of maybe 9 guys there is a pretty drastic drop off in talent.

Now for what the 6ers need. I don't think Simmons fits what you guys need. I think you are all in for desperate need for wing scorers. Ingram and Murray should be top priorities. Perfect scenario for Philly is getting Ingram and Murray this draft and then getting one of the elite PGs in the 17 class. Either Smith jr or Fox. For those who haven't seen Dennis Smith jr. Check his highlights out on YouTube, crazy athletic and crazy potential. Of course that's best case scenario, but if that happens this whole tanking for a few years would definitely be worth it.

Okafor
Noel
Ingram
Murray
Smith jr

Would have scary scary potential

iMoreland · Post #242 » by **iMoreland** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:54 am

Jaylen Brown:

Wilfried · Post #243 » by **Wilfried** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:02 am

Duke4life831 wrote:This years draft class is considered weak for 3 different reasons. It's not nearly as deep as this past years draft. And the 17 draft has a chance to be as good as the 03 draft.

I know it's impossible to say that already, but if the 2017 draft is a big one, wouldn't we prefer that Laker's pick than, and unprotected?

Unbreakable99 · Post #244 » by **Unbreakable99** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 12:01 pm

Wilfried wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:This years draft class is considered weak for 3 different reasons. It's not nearly as deep as this past years draft. And the 17 draft has a chance to be as good as the 03 draft.

I know it's impossible to say that already, but if the 2017 draft is a big one, wouldn't we prefer that Laker's pick than, and unprotected?

The Lakers pick is. It unprotected in 2017. It becomes unprotected in 2018.

Dell · Post #245 » by **Dell** » Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:36 pm

Yeah that 2017 class looks great with Harry Giles, Josh Jackson, Jayson Tatum, Dennis Smith, De'Arron Fox, Thon Maker, Malik Monk, etc...

But if we're talking about a top 5 pick, give it to me this year and let's get going with this team. With Skal, Ben Simmons, Brandon Ingram, Jaylen Brown, Dragan Bender and Jamal Murray, there will be plenty of talent available in the top 5 this year.

The one thing though, if we're looking forward, 2017 is a loaded point guard class with Smith Jr., Fox, Frank Jackson, Lonzo Ball, Kobi Simmons and potentially Malik Monk. So missing out on a PG this year might not be the worst thing in the world. Especially if you consider Jamal Murray to be a better fit at shooting guard. If Malik Newman can play a solid PG, then he changes the dynamics of this class a little bit.

ImChillin01 · Post #246 » by **ImChillin01** » Sun Nov 1, 2015 5:56 am

Dell wrote:Yeah that 2017 class looks great with Harry Giles, Josh Jackson, Jayson Tatum, Dennis Smith, De'Arron Fox, Thon Maker, Malik Monk, etc...

But if we're talking about a top 5 pick, give it to me this year and let's get going with this team. With Skal, Ben Simmons, Brandon Ingram, Jaylen Brown, Dragan Bender and Jamal Murray, there will be plenty of talent available in the top 5 this year.

The one thing though, if we're looking forward, 2017 is a loaded point guard class with Smith Jr., Fox, Frank Jackson, Lonzo Ball, Kobi Simmons and potentially Malik Monk. So missing out on a PG this year might not be the worst thing in the world. Especially if you consider Jamal Murray to be a better fit at shooting guard. If Malik Newman can play a solid PG, then he changes the dynamics of this class a little bit.

Prob get PG from Heat or Thunder pick

Dell · Post #247 » by **Dell** » Sun Nov 1, 2015 3:25 pm

ImChillin01 wrote:
Dell wrote:Yeah that 2017 class looks great with Harry Giles, Josh Jackson, Jayson Tatum, Dennis Smith, De'Arron Fox, Thon Maker, Malik Monk, etc...

But if we're talking about a top 5 pick, give it to me this year and let's get going with this team. With Skal, Ben Simmons, Brandon Ingram, Jaylen Brown, Dragan Bender and Jamal Murray, there will be plenty of talent available in the top 5 this year.

The one thing though, if we're looking forward, 2017 is a loaded point guard class with Smith Jr., Fox, Frank Jackson, Lonzo Ball, Kobi Simmons and potentially Malik Monk. So missing out on a PG this year might not be the worst thing in the world. Especially if you consider Jamal Murray to be a better fit at shooting guard. If Malik Newman can play a solid PG, then he changes the dynamics of this class a little bit.

Prob get PG from Heat or Thunder pick

Yeah I don't doubt it, but I'm talking about a star guard. With the Heat/Thunder picks we'd be praying for someone like Briscoe to fall, otherwise it's a combo guard like Ty Wallace, Tim Quarterman or EC Matthews. Or an obvious backup like Gary Payton II. Some of those guys can be useful players, but none is the type of star point guard you need to really excel in today's NBA.

Post #248 » by **Duke4life831** » Sun Nov 1, 2015 11:33 pm

Wilfried wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:This years draft class is considered weak for 3 different reasons. It's not nearly as deep as this past years draft. And the 17 draft has a chance to be as good as the 03 draft.

I know it's impossible to say that already, but if the 2017 draft is a big one, wouldn't we prefer that Laker's pick than, and unprotected?

I don't know your guys draft pick situation all that well. But ya if you could choose to have a top 5 pick in this upcoming draft or in 17. Any GM would take 17 all day long. Again 17 has a chance to be 03 good. Put it in a simple way Skal, Simmons and Ingram would be borderline top 5 picks. Giles, Tatum, Jackson, Smith jr and Monk would all go before any guy in the 16 draft.

Post #249 » by **Foshan** » Mon Nov 2, 2015 12:24 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
Wilfried wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:This years draft class is considered weak for 3 different reasons. It's not nearly as deep as this past years draft. And the 17 draft has a chance to be as good as the 03 draft.

I know it's impossible to say that already, but if the 2017 draft is a big one, wouldn't we prefer that Laker's pick than, and unprotected?

I don't know your guys draft pick situation all that well. But ya if you could choose to have a top 5 pick in this upcoming draft or in 17. Any GM would take 17 all day long. Again 17 has a chance to be 03 good. Put it in a simple way Skal, Simmons and Ingram would be borderline top 5 picks. Giles, Tatum, Jackson, Smith jr and Monk would all go before any guy in the 16 draft.

Yeah, but the problem is, how bad will the LAL pick be in 17 with Clarkston/Russel/Randle/'16 top 3 pick? Plus lots of money spent on vets? probably not a top 5 pick

Ericb5 · Post #250 » by **Ericb5** » Mon Nov 2, 2015 12:58 am

Dell wrote:
ImChillin01 wrote:
Dell wrote:Yeah that 2017 class looks great with Harry Giles, Josh Jackson, Jayson Tatum, Dennis Smith, De'Arron Fox, Thon Maker, Malik Monk, etc...

But if we're talking about a top 5 pick, give it to me this year and let's get going with this team. With Skal, Ben Simmons, Brandon Ingram, Jaylen Brown, Dragan Bender and Jamal Murray, there will be plenty of talent available in the top 5 this year.

The one thing though, if we're looking forward, 2017 is a loaded point guard class with Smith Jr., Fox, Frank Jackson, Lonzo Ball, Kobi Simmons and potentially Malik Monk. So missing out on a PG this year might not be the worst thing in the world. Especially if you consider Jamal Murray to be a better fit at shooting guard. If Malik Newman can play a solid PG, then he changes the dynamics of this class a little bit.

Prob get PG from Heat or Thunder pick

Yeah I don't doubt it, but I'm talking about a star guard. With the Heat/Thunder picks we'd be praying for someone like Briscoe to fall, otherwise it's a combo guard like Ty Wallace, Tim Quarterman or EC Matthews. Or an obvious backup like Gary Payton II. Some of those guys can be useful players, but none is the type of star point guard you need to really excel in today's NBA.

You don't draft for need in the lottery unless the choice comes between two equals. We don't have to address the point guard position in the draft.

In a way, I think that it would be better to trade for or sign a good established point guard that could come in and help all of our young bucks, instead of drafting another young buck to do it.

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Post #251 » by **Duke4life831** » Mon Nov 2, 2015 4:29 am

Foshan wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Wilfried wrote:
I know it's impossible to say that already, but if the 2017 draft is a big one, wouldn't we prefer that Laker's pick than, and unprotected?

I don't know your guys draft pick situation all that well. But ya if you could choose to have a top 5 pick in this upcoming draft or in 17. Any GM would take 17 all day long. Again 17 has a chance to be 03 good. Put it in a simple way Skal, Simmons and Ingram would be borderline top 5 picks. Giles, Tatum, Jackson, Smith jr and Monk would all go before any guy in the 16 draft.

Yeah, but the problem is, how bad will the LAL pick be in 17 with Clarkston/Russel/Randle/'16 top 3 pick? Plus lots of money spent on vets? probably not a top 5 pick

Ya but no offense but I wouldnt be surprised if you guys have a top 5 pick in that draft. And again I was just speaking about how much potential that draft class has. With all the elite talent leaving after one year of college you can afford Noel being on a crap team for 4 years and still surround him with a ton of young talent by the time hes 23. You guys are sitting pretty good though for your long term potential. You should have 2 top 10 picks this year. You guys can either get two scoring wing players in say Ingram and Murray then you will probably get a top 5 pick the next year and get one of the freak PGs in the 17 class. Or if you get a wing and a PG say Dunn this year, you can get one of the freak wing scoring talents in Tatum or Monk. 2 years from now you guys should have a really young but super talented starting 5

Post #252 » by **Foshan** » Mon Nov 2, 2015 4:43 am

If the LAL pick conveys this year I have a hard time thinking we end up with another top 5 pick. Unless soemthing goes terribly wrong (again injury wise) I think we are maybe just missing out on the playoffs and picking 11. (remember we're in the east

)

I have a feeling we spend some money next year too. I guess maybe we end up top 5 if Sac bottoms out... again

Post #253 » by **Duke4life831** » Mon Nov 2, 2015 9:30 pm

Foshan wrote:If the LAL pick conveys this year I have a hard time thinking we end up with another top 5 pick. Unless soemthing goes terribly wrong (again injury wise) I think we are maybe just missing out on the playoffs and picking 11. (remember we're in the east )

I have a feeling we spend some money next year too. I guess maybe we end up top 5 if Sac bottoms out... again

I know it sucks to hear, but if I was a 76ers fan, I would be hoping to tank this year and next. That should mean 3 top 10 draft picks probably over the next 2 years. Hopefully you guys can get two wing players and a point. Noel would only be 23 at the start of the 17 season, so you guys would still be very young

ImChillin01 · Post #254 » by **ImChillin01** » Tue Nov 3, 2015 12:46 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
Foshan wrote:If the LAL pick conveys this year I have a hard time thinking we end up with another top 5 pick. Unless soemthing goes terribly wrong (again injury wise) I think we are maybe just missing out on the playoffs and picking 11. (remember we're in the east )

I have a feeling we spend some money next year too. I guess maybe we end up top 5 if Sac bottoms out... again

I know it sucks to hear, but if I was a 76ers fan, I would be hoping to tank this year and next. That should mean 3 top 10 draft picks probably over the next 2 years. Hopefully you guys can get two wing players and a point. Noel would only be 23 at the start of the 17 season, so you guys would still be very young

This should be final year of tank for 76ers. I know 2017 class is supposed to be special and 2016 class is supposed to be weak, which I find hilarious to hear people say this before they even play college game. But if 76ers are still bottom 5 team in 2016-17 ssn, then development of the team is failing. Cant be bad for that long or you end up like Early 00s Clippers or Mid 00s Bobcats. 76ers also got Kings pick next year, with the Kings you never know how good or bad they'll be. They can also still trade Cousins if someone gives them great offer

Post #255 » by **Duke4life831** » Tue Nov 3, 2015 12:51 am

ImChillin01 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Foshan wrote:If the LAL pick conveys this year I have a hard time thinking we end up with another top 5 pick. Unless soemthing goes terribly wrong (again injury wise) I think we are maybe just missing out on the playoffs and picking 11. (remember we're in the east )

I have a feeling we spend some money next year too. I guess maybe we end up top 5 if Sac bottoms out... again

I know it sucks to hear, but if I was a 76ers fan, I would be hoping to tank this year and next. That should mean 3 top 10 draft picks probably over the next 2 years. Hopefully you guys can get two wing players and a point. Noel would only be 23 at the start of the 17 season, so you guys would still be very young

This should be final year of tank for 76ers. I know 2017 class is supposed to be special and 2016 class is supposed to be weak, which I find hilarious to hear people say this before they even play college game. But if 76ers are still bottom 5 team in 2016-17 ssn, then development of the team is failing. Cant be bad for that long or you end up like Early 00s Clippers or Mid 00s Bobcats. 76ers also got Kings pick next year, with the Kings you never know how good or bad they'll be. They can also still trade Cousins if someone gives them great offer

I think it would be worth it to be bad for one more year to get one of the top 5-7 guys in 17. And people say that 17 is the better draft class because the Sophomores were clearly better than the Juniors.

Kobblehead · Post #256 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue Nov 3, 2015 2:22 am

I can't wait for this season to start. Gonna be another fun year of scouting talent knowing that we have so many 1st rounders.

Negrodamus · Post #257 » by **Negrodamus** » Tue Nov 3, 2015 3:43 am

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taf3xUTzazM[/youtube]

Post #258 » by **Duke4life831** » Tue Nov 3, 2015 3:50 am

Negrodamus wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taf3xUTzazM[/youtube]

Murray is a legit scoring talent. He would be a live savior for Oak and Noel.

Negrodamus · Post #259 » by **Negrodamus** » Tue Nov 3, 2015 3:51 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taf3xUTzazM[/youtube]

Murray is a legit scoring talent. He would be a live savior for Oak and Noel.

I think we win it all this year because of Murray. He is the guard we needed last year. Near triple double today.

roma258 · Post #260 » by **roma258** » Tue Nov 3, 2015 3:53 am

Kobblehead wrote:I can't wait for this season to start. Gonna be another fun year of scouting talent knowing that we have so many 1st rounders.

I'm ready to actually have a good team to root for!