Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread

[Lorenzomax7]

Found this on JLinPortal. I have no idea what they're saying, but the team seems to be giddy with their first win of the season.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgvBmFC5G2Y[/youtube]

They didn't even all bother to get dressed before sharing their elation on social media when Lin filmed this. I guess having Lin on the team helps amplify the Hornets win on social media and reaching out to a global audience, judging by whatever Mandarin they seemed to have picked up from their trip overseas.

The team seems practically euphoric over their first win.

Lin : "Thank y'all for supporting us! We won 2nite!"

"@*$&%#^"

[Roy Tarpley]

I'm sure it'll all even out in the end but I was really anticipating 30+ minutes/game, not mid-20s.

Our FO made clear he was coming in as a backup. The plan was never to play him 30+ minutes. We literally just extended Kemba, the starting gig is his.

I love having Lin here and honestly don't care if he is getting ten or forty minutes as long as we're winning. I just don't think you can criticize the FO or coaching staff for being less than clear in setting expectations.

YSBen -- I am a fan of your commentary, keep it up.

Regarding your last point, I never said Lin should be the starter. In fact, I stressed my agnosticism here. So let's get that out of the way.

I know that Clifford and Cho didn't promise Lin X number of minutes but it's hard for me to believe that Lin was leaving the horrible Lakers situation and thinking the Hornets situation was better because he'd be getting LESS minutes than on the Lakers, no matter the style of play or coaching. I can't imagine Clifford was promising that Lin would get lots of playing time, which he did promise, but actually mean that Lin would get less than he did on the Lakers. So I'm not criticizing the FO or coaching staff for being unclear, because again no number of minutes were set, but something doesn't seem right.

I'm not persuaded by the "I don't care if he is getting ten or forty minutes as long as we're winning" rhetorical argument. My point is that playing Lin more SHOULD contribute to more winning. Why?

- He gets to the line at a higher rate than anyone on the team, and is shooting 95% FT right now. That's got to come in handy when the team is in a drought and needs to stop the play to regain momentum.

- He's shooting 3PT at a 47% clip, and should average around 36% at the end of the season. That'll help the spacing.

- He's playing pretty solid D right now, so he's not a liability on that end.

- He's one of the few ballhandlers/playmakers on the team, along with Kemba and Batum.

Anyways, not a big deal right now. Again, like I said, I'm sure things will even out in the end. I was just agreeing with a previous commenter who made this same point. Also, since I heard that Clifford likes 9 man rotations, a little surprised that he's going with a 10 man rotation.

Carry on.

[Lorenzomax7]

As a Lin fan I have to point out he hasn't been consistent. He played a good game against Miami and then played 2 bad ones in Atlanta. I'm fine with how Clifford is playing him right now. Tonight, Kemba was playing well with the starting unit and opened up a big lead early, so he ran with it. I have no problem with it and you shouldn't either.

i respecfully disagree with you, if u are holding kemba as a gold standard.

Kemba hasn't been exactly consistent either, but Jeremy hasn't really outplayed him significantly. At this point, Kemba is someone Clifford knows. Kemba has more reps with the starting unit. So if neither Kemba nor Jeremy are playing particularly well, it makes sense to stick with Kemba a bit more. Especially the first Atlanta game I was happy with the way Clifford played Jeremy. He pretty didn't play well the entire game and then I think had a bunch of TO's in the 3rd and/or 4th. Clifford still let him play down the stretch after a short rest/calm down. Tonight, like I said, Kemba was playing well, particularly in the 1st half. Part of the reason why Jeremy played so little was also because it was a blowout. I do think he should get more minutes, but he hasn't made a strong case yet.

The whole team hasn't been exactly consistent either except for maybe Marvin Williams. Just saying.

It's too early to tell guys.

[Lorenzomax7]

Lin ranked #2 in PIE. He might be inconsistent based on high expectations. But in recent he is highly effective for the Hornets.

[BeesWax]

If Lamb continues to play well Lins minutes may drop even more.

And I hope Lamb does just that.

I think Lamb playing well may effect Frank more than Lin as weird as that seems. I can see Lamb playing more, which moves PJ to more backup SF due to his strength and size, which allows Marvin less time there and more as a stretch 4 which pushes Frank to the bench for longer stretches. I think due to play making Lin, Kemba and Batum are going to get there minutes and the rest of the 2-4 positions will get time based on that. At this point we still really haven't seen a small ball lineup yet which could change everything.

[kastuul]

This is how the team should play Lin with the bigs.

It gives Lin more options.

Just tell the bigs to roll with Lin.

[yosemiteben]

I know that Clifford and Cho didn't promise Lin X number of minutes but it's hard for me to believe that Lin was leaving the horrible Lakers situation and thinking the Hornets situation was better because he'd be getting LESS minutes than on the Lakers, no matter the style of play or coaching. I can't imagine Clifford was promising that Lin would get lots of playing time, which he did promise, but actually mean that Lin would get less than he did on the Lakers.

From what we know about Cliff, I would be shocked if he quantified the amount of PT Lin would get. That's just not his MO.

Kemba is going to play at least 32 MPG at PG. So unless Lin plays 20 MPG next to Kemba at PG, which I find pretty highly unlikely, I just don't see how he gets 30 MPG.

[Vae Victus]

16 mins as backup PG and 14 mins as backup SG (to Lamb) i think is the ideal setup. Hopefully Lin keeps playing like he did against CHA with the 2nd unit, it'll give a HUGE boost to the squad letting the 2nd unit actually do damage to keep it close or extend leads. Bigs need to pick hard and roll hard and good things will happen.

PG - Kemba (32), Lin (16)
SG - Lamb (28), Lin (14), Hairston (6) <-- up or down depending on D needed
SF - Batum (32), MWilliams, (16), Hairston
PF - MWilliams (12), Zeller (22), Kamisky (14)
C - Al (24), Hawes, (16), Kamisky (8)

Ideally the squad needs to trade Al for anything, or figure a way to consolidate their bigs trading for 1 superior player.

[Vae Victus]

Lin was definitely promised a good chunk of mins. Why else would he come to CHA signing for a pittance when he can easily get that amount from any number of teams to come off the bench. Hell imagine if he came off the bench for the Spurs, Pop will make him the next TP, or even the Bulls, Rose is guaranteed to get hurt so he'll get plenty of mins to showcase. The clippers woulda been a great destination for him if only Austin Rivers wasn't Doc's kid and Doc essentially burned half the roster down to get him. And yes, Doc traded away and cut like 6 players to open up space to get his boy on his team.

[BeesWax]

The reality is there is 96 minutes to use at PG and SG. Assuming that Lamb continues to play well he would need around 30 and Kemba seems at his best around that number as well. So that is about 60 minutes gone which leaves us with 36 left. If we don't use Roberts, which we shouldn't, then it is between Hairston and Lin for those 36 with PJ also being able to steal some time at SF backing up Batum. If we cut to a nine man rotation I think Lin will log around 28-30 a night like the two starters and PJ will get somewhere around 16 between SF/SG.

[RevolDas]

First time poster here, been lurking for a while now though. Just would like to share some thought on the debat on Lin's minutes here.

I'll have to admit that I'm a Lin fan. But being a team's fan should comes first when you watch team oriented sports such as basketball. So if the team is winning, I don't mind that Lin only get to play 15 mins or so, as long as he is efficient and contribute to the win. Plus he has to earn his time as a back up. And so far in the 4 games he only shows up for 2 while for a lack of better word sucks in the other 2. It's really hard to make an argument that it would be best for the team to have Lin playing more minutes with only 37.1% FG.

But it's a long season, so I'll remain optimystic.

[steady]

It's a small sample size on a team that is still learning to play together, and experimenting with line ups. We'll know better in a few weeks..

[Vae Victus]

If Lin can shoot 40% from 3 the rest of the season at high volume (5 attempts) that'd be amazing. Hell just try to go all drives, 3s, and FTs and watch his efficiencies soar

[ckman]

Who care how many minutes a player get if the team win? You guys who crying about more minutes for Lin probably should just shut up and see how happy he is compare to last season.
Lin also played in clutch time in all Hornets games except the blow out against Bulls, that should said a lot about Clifford's trust to him

[spaceballer]

Jeremy Lin (and Cody Zeller) learning how to play Australian Rules Football from AFL player Lachie Neale of the Fremantle Dockers on his America tour (he also did bits with Steph Curry and others).

[tweet]https://twitter.com/freodockers/status/661005143433830400[/tweet]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2585566-nba-star-jeremy-lin-gets-afl-tutorial-from-fremantle-midfielder-lachie-neale

[spaceballer]

Jeremy on the David Glenn Show (twitter bio bills it as the largest NC sports talk show, with carriage on 15+ AM/FM stations in 100+ cities, and NC Sportscaster of the Year).

https://soundcloud.com/accsports-com/jeremy-lin


[tweet]https://twitter.com/DavidGlennShow/status/661978074364399617[/tweet]

Some tidbits David Glenn tweeted:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DavidGlennShow/status/661960026362396673[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/DavidGlennShow/status/661960581646274560[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/DavidGlennShow/status/661960601644761088[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/DavidGlennShow/status/661960920957079552[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/DavidGlennShow/status/661961075269705728[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/DavidGlennShow/status/661961102759174144[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/DavidGlennShow/status/661961379151220736[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/bgeis_bird/status/661959459065974784[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/bgeis_bird/status/661963197725941761[/tweet]

Brian Geisinger is the assistant producer on the show and a sports reporter for the NC News Network and Sports Channel 8.

[yosemiteben]

David Glenn Show @DavidGlennShow
Lin: the Harvard label usually comes in, say, if Coach uses a word people don't know, they will look at me.

[Roy Tarpley]

Who care how many minutes a player get if the team win? You guys who crying about more minutes for Lin probably should just shut up and see how happy he is compare to last season.
Lin also played in clutch time in all Hornets games except the blow out against Bulls, that should said a lot about Clifford's trust to him

Thanks, classy response.

[spaceballer]

Jeremy really has some dedicated fans. They were worried about the chemistry between Lin, the coach, and teammates. So they donated money to buy a ticket right behind the bench, and sent a Charlotte native to report back on the chemistry and interactions between the coach and players during the game.

The report is by the same guy who bought the 12-game pack to blog about the team, but this ticket behind the bench wasn't one of those 12-game tickets. The donor is anonymous, so no one knows who paid for the ticket behind the bench, but it speaks to the strength and passion of Lin's dedicated fan base that they made this happen just because of concern over how the team was interacting on the sidelines after the 0-3 losses to start the season.

Here's the post-game report:
https://jlinforum.wordpress.com/2015/11/04/jeremy-lin-analysis-hornets-vs-bulls-113/

[leeramundo]

Who care how many minutes a player get if the team win? You guys who crying about more minutes for Lin probably should just shut up and see how happy he is compare to last season.
Lin also played in clutch time in all Hornets games except the blow out against Bulls, that should said a lot about Clifford's trust to him

Thanks, classy response.

His response was probably a little needlessly harsh but he does have a point. Why don't we just wait a little longer before we talk about minutes?