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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1161 » by guest81 » Thu Nov 5, 2015 11:15 pm

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Wiggins and JJ/Dante have different personalities. You need to light a fire under Wiggins because he is passive at times. Also Wiggins is a 2nd year player. I have no problem with Rubio who is a leader both on and off court making a constructive remark towards one of the younger guys who needs direction.


Why not tell him in private? Why embarrass him through the media?


Because it is not really an embarrassment? Please go read the entire post instead of just the title.


So let me get this straight, Wiggins, a guy who came off winning ROY, scoring 20 points a game, and playing the most minutes of anyone in the NBA past December, has a bad 3 game stretch to start the season (by his standards) and gets called out for being lazy? So anybody else makes those comments they're an idiot, but because it comes from Rubio, it's considered awesome leadership.

Is that right?
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1162 » by RocketsHero » Thu Nov 5, 2015 11:32 pm

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Why not tell him in private? Why embarrass him through the media?


Because it is not really an embarrassment? Please go read the entire post instead of just the title.


So let me get this straight, Wiggins, a guy who came off winning ROY, scoring 20 points a game, and playing the most minutes of anyone in the NBA past December, has a bad 3 game stretch to start the season (by his standards) and gets called out for being lazy? So anybody else makes those comments they're an idiot, but because it comes from Rubio, it's considered awesome leadership.

Is that right?


Wiggins' accolades doesn't make him immune to constructive criticisms. It could have been KG, K-mart, or any of the veteran guys. Rubio decided to step up and make a fair point (Flip did something similar last year). Constructive criticisms are helpful as long as they are just and constructive.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1163 » by RocketsHero » Thu Nov 5, 2015 11:33 pm

Don't worry, I am sure Wiggins knows Rubio wants him and the team to succeed.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1164 » by guest81 » Thu Nov 5, 2015 11:38 pm

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Because it is not really an embarrassment? Please go read the entire post instead of just the title.


So let me get this straight, Wiggins, a guy who came off winning ROY, scoring 20 points a game, and playing the most minutes of anyone in the NBA past December, has a bad 3 game stretch to start the season (by his standards) and gets called out for being lazy? So anybody else makes those comments they're an idiot, but because it comes from Rubio, it's considered awesome leadership.

Is that right?


Wiggins' accolades doesn't make him immune to constructive criticisms. It could have been KG, K-mart, or any of the veteran guys. Rubio decided to step up and make a fair point (Flip did something similar last year). Constructive criticisms are helpful as long as they are just and constructive.


So when Rubio goes through a 3 game slump, Wiggins should be allowed to call him out? Could Wiggins call out Rubio for taking 5 years to improve his shot?
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1165 » by RocketsHero » Thu Nov 5, 2015 11:40 pm

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So let me get this straight, Wiggins, a guy who came off winning ROY, scoring 20 points a game, and playing the most minutes of anyone in the NBA past December, has a bad 3 game stretch to start the season (by his standards) and gets called out for being lazy? So anybody else makes those comments they're an idiot, but because it comes from Rubio, it's considered awesome leadership.

Is that right?


Wiggins' accolades doesn't make him immune to constructive criticisms. It could have been KG, K-mart, or any of the veteran guys. Rubio decided to step up and make a fair point (Flip did something similar last year). Constructive criticisms are helpful as long as they are just and constructive.


So when Rubio goes through a 3 game slump, Wiggins should be allowed to call him out? Could Wiggins call out Rubio for taking 5 years to improve his shot?


Wiggins = 2nd year player.

Rubio = 5th year player.

Wiggins = 2 years on the Timberwolves.

Rubio = 5 yeas on the Timberwolves.

Wiggins = 20 years old.

Rubio = 25 years old.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1166 » by guest81 » Thu Nov 5, 2015 11:44 pm

RocketsHero wrote:
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RocketsHero wrote:
Wiggins' accolades doesn't make him immune to constructive criticisms. It could have been KG, K-mart, or any of the veteran guys. Rubio decided to step up and make a fair point (Flip did something similar last year). Constructive criticisms are helpful as long as they are just and constructive.


So when Rubio goes through a 3 game slump, Wiggins should be allowed to call him out? Could Wiggins call out Rubio for taking 5 years to improve his shot?


Wiggins = 2nd year player.

Rubio = 5th year player.

Wiggins = 2 years on the Timberwolves.

Rubio = 5 yeas on the Timberwolves.

Wiggins = 20 years old.

Rubio = 25 years old.



Wiggins rookie year>any Rubio year
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1167 » by RocketsHero » Thu Nov 5, 2015 11:46 pm

guest81 wrote:
RocketsHero wrote:
guest81 wrote:
So when Rubio goes through a 3 game slump, Wiggins should be allowed to call him out? Could Wiggins call out Rubio for taking 5 years to improve his shot?


Wiggins = 2nd year player.

Rubio = 5th year player.

Wiggins = 2 years on the Timberwolves.

Rubio = 5 yeas on the Timberwolves.

Wiggins = 20 years old.

Rubio = 25 years old.



Wiggins rookie year>any Rubio year


Good for him and let's move on.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1168 » by Nirv » Fri Nov 6, 2015 12:53 am

Man, your hate on Rubio is ridiculous, stop that.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1169 » by ace625214 » Fri Nov 6, 2015 1:59 am

He didn't say he was a lazy player. He said sometimes he gets lazy off ball, and then has to work hard with the ball to make up for it. There was nothing about his overall effort being low, just that he was spending energy less efficiently than he could be.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1170 » by Klomp » Fri Nov 6, 2015 7:31 am

We need to trade Wiggins ASAP. Clearly since he can't average 30 ppg while playing through injury, he will never be any good. Trade him while we can. Anthony Bennett sounds like equal trade value. Who's with me?!

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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1171 » by urinesane » Sat Nov 7, 2015 7:21 pm

guest81 wrote:
RocketsHero wrote:
guest81 wrote:
So when Rubio goes through a 3 game slump, Wiggins should be allowed to call him out? Could Wiggins call out Rubio for taking 5 years to improve his shot?


Wiggins = 2nd year player.

Rubio = 5th year player.

Wiggins = 2 years on the Timberwolves.

Rubio = 5 yeas on the Timberwolves.

Wiggins = 20 years old.

Rubio = 25 years old.



Wiggins rookie year>any Rubio year


Considering the Wolves were playing .500 ball and were fighting for the 8th playoff spot in Rubio's first season before he got hurt, I'd say Rubio had a better rookie season (though that's if you value winning games more than awards). If he stays healthy that year I think he'd have been closer in the voting to Irving (Ricky was still 2nd even though he only played 41 games).

Did Ricky steal your ice cream cone as a kid or something? Your hate for him is ridiculous.

He's the leader of the team and he should be able to light a fire under the young player's asses, he's earned it.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1172 » by Worm Guts » Sat Nov 7, 2015 7:39 pm

guest81 wrote:
RocketsHero wrote:
guest81 wrote:
So when Rubio goes through a 3 game slump, Wiggins should be allowed to call him out? Could Wiggins call out Rubio for taking 5 years to improve his shot?


Wiggins = 2nd year player.

Rubio = 5th year player.

Wiggins = 2 years on the Timberwolves.

Rubio = 5 yeas on the Timberwolves.

Wiggins = 20 years old.

Rubio = 25 years old.



Wiggins rookie year>any Rubio year


Healthy Rubio at any point of his career is more impactful than Wiggins was last year.
Rookie Rubio was better than rookie Wiggins.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1173 » by theGreatRC » Sat Nov 7, 2015 7:55 pm

The impact Rubio makes on this team has more meaning than Wiggins has done so far in this league. Rubio's 10 best games have more weight to them than Wiggins 10 best games. We need Wiggins to be better, Rubio called him out because he knows he can be ELITE. It's not a knock on Wiggins either that Rubio is more impactful than Wiggins; Rubio was a top 5 pick himself in a great draft...i'd say he's still top 5 if there was a re-draft:

Curry
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Rubio

(I don't like DeRozan more than Rubio) And the re-draft thing had nothing to do with my post, just wanted to point out that Rubio isn't just some guy on our team, he was picked high because he also had potential to be one of the greats in this league and so far this season he has been one of the top 10 PGs of the season.

People don't call others out for no reason, most of the time it's to let them know that they need to be doing what they're expected of doing.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1174 » by urinesane » Sat Nov 7, 2015 11:30 pm

Looks like it worked.
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Post#1175 » by Foye » Sun Nov 8, 2015 12:12 am

Patience. Thats what some on here should really work on.

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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1176 » by Oj_mayo » Sun Nov 8, 2015 1:21 am

To whom it may concern:

I am here to express my disappoint as it pertains to the skill sets of Mr. Wiggins. I made an excellent comparison last season between Mr. Wiggins and Mr. Mayo. I pointed out that both men were exceptional athletes at the college level, however, both men will amount to mediocrity at the end of their NBA careers.

As a point of reference, both individuals were drafted by the sorry administrative team that Minnesota has assembled.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1177 » by Saltine » Sun Nov 8, 2015 2:27 am

Oj_mayo wrote:To whom it may concern:

I am here to express my disappoint as it pertains to the skill sets of Mr. Wiggins. I made an excellent comparison last season between Mr. Wiggins and Mr. Mayo. I pointed out that both men were exceptional athletes at the college level, however, both men will amount to mediocrity at the end of their NBA careers.

As a point of reference, both individuals were drafted by the sorry administrative team that Minnesota has assembled.

Who gave you a keyboard? :crazy:
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1178 » by Oj_mayo » Sun Nov 8, 2015 2:44 am

Saltine wrote:
Oj_mayo wrote:To whom it may concern:

I am here to express my disappoint as it pertains to the skill sets of Mr. Wiggins. I made an excellent comparison last season between Mr. Wiggins and Mr. Mayo. I pointed out that both men were exceptional athletes at the college level, however, both men will amount to mediocrity at the end of their NBA careers.

As a point of reference, both individuals were drafted by the sorry administrative team that Minnesota has assembled.

Who gave you a keyboard? :crazy:


To start off, I want to assert that I made an error in my closing sentence regarding the word "draft."

I want to remind you Mr. Saltine, that the Timberwolves have been a terrible organization these past 10 years as measured by wins. You can color code it all you want, but the evidence supports that the administration has been anything but exceptional. If you want to resort to curtailing criticism on any ground, then by all means practice it. I, on the other hand, will not be coerced to such a practice.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1179 » by Saltine » Sun Nov 8, 2015 3:11 am

Oj_mayo wrote:
Saltine wrote:
Oj_mayo wrote:To whom it may concern:

I am here to express my disappoint as it pertains to the skill sets of Mr. Wiggins. I made an excellent comparison last season between Mr. Wiggins and Mr. Mayo. I pointed out that both men were exceptional athletes at the college level, however, both men will amount to mediocrity at the end of their NBA careers.

As a point of reference, both individuals were drafted by the sorry administrative team that Minnesota has assembled.

Who gave you a keyboard? :crazy:


To start off, I want to assert that I made an error in my closing sentence regarding the word "draft."

I want to remind you Mr. Saltine, that the Timberwolves have been a terrible organization these past 10 years as measured by wins. You can color code it all you want, but the evidence supports that the administration has been anything but exceptional. If you want to resort to curtailing criticism on any ground, then by all means practice it. I, on the other hand, will not be coerced to such a practice.

David Kahn is long gone, so your "point" is very, very far, off the mark. The Wolves didn't draft Wiggins either, they traded for him. Also, you sound like a robot, I don't talk to robots, especially ones that are so prone to error.
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Re: The Andrew Wiggins Thread 

Post#1180 » by Zeitgeister » Sun Nov 8, 2015 3:19 am

Oj_mayo wrote:To whom it may concern:

I am here to express my disappoint as it pertains to the skill sets of Mr. Wiggins. I made an excellent comparison last season between Mr. Wiggins and Mr. Mayo. I pointed out that both men were exceptional athletes at the college level, however, both men will amount to mediocrity at the end of their NBA careers.

As a point of reference, both individuals were drafted by the sorry administrative team that Minnesota has assembled.


LOL at comparing Wiggins and Mayo as athletes.
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