Where/When Do We Find Our Next PG?

[shakendfries]

So, there are rumours that the Bulls consider trading Derrick Rose because they are unhappy with his attitude and his recent comments regarding his free agency in 2017. And obviously the Nets are one of the few teams with a need at the point, so we have trade ideas both in the media and on RealGM:

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Why for the Bulls? Getting out of Derrick Rose's contract and having approx. 50 M in cap space next summer in order to build their team according to the strengths of their young players. Chicago both has quality players and the market size to have a shot at top FAs.

Why for the Nets? Getting an instant upgrade and also a future asset like a first round pick or one of the Bulls young players (McDermott, Portis or Snell). On the other hand, the Nets give up a large portion of their cap space next summer which is only reasonable if you don't expect them to get quality players after a horrible season.

Personally, I'm quite unsure because I don't like present D-Rose at all. He seems to shy away from contact at the rim and instead settles for jumpers, so he basically sacrifices one of his biggest strengths in favour of one of his biggest weaknesses. And I don't believe he will eventually get back to being an all-star level player.
On the other hand, getting a future pick or a young player with NBA caliber on top would help in compensating the loss of our future draft picks.

I don't believe the Nets would really consider a deal because they seem to be focussed on having cap space next summer which I am fine with. But I'm crossing my fingers that we will also get some quality free agents in 2016.

Wait, so you're telling me the Nets can get a PG with two bad knees, can barely see, a rape case, and a bad attitude who will cripple our cap space for two years?!



nah, I'm good on Rose. I'd take that draft pick for Jarret Jack tho

[jbeachboy]

29 points, 6 assists, and 5 rebounds is pretty good against westbrook and okc with bad knees and one eye

[Swav718]

If we can get that Sacramento pick, Taj Gibson with Rose for just Joe and jack I do it in a heartbeat. Rose have not been playing well this season but he is definitely way better than Joe and Jack at this point. Bk will also have more fans by Derrick coming and his contract is only for this year and next year I believe so we wouldn´t have him for long if he does not play well. Taj could be good off the bench or a starter but I´m mostly looking at that Sacramento 2016 draft pick. If we need cap space to sign a FA this summer I´m sure we can trade Thad or Gibson for smaller contracts because they still do have value. I doubt we get any real good point guard this FA so it would not be terrible letting Rose handle that until 2017 FA when the real point guards are on the market .

Trading for Rose would be like when the Knicks traded for Steve Francis. Rose has two bad knees and double vision. Sacramento's pick is top 10 protected. Rose has a PER of 6.6 this year!!!!!

I would want a top 5 pick to take on Rose at minimum. Maybe we could get the Kings involved so they relinquish the protection on the pick but otherwise I say no. Rose isnt a playmaker and if he is gun shy on driving to the rim, he really doesnt have any value.

lol bro with all those problems he have, he is still better than Joe and Jack combined ! the kings pick is still very valuable because they can very much be the 8-11th seed in the west which will probably get us picks 11-15, I rather that than NO Picks at all. I also read that the bulls might be willing to add the kings pick AND their own pick as well . So 2 picks, taj gibson and rose is pretty much the best we can do for Joe johnson, Idk what else you want.... rose just dropped 30 points on OKC and the way Joe is playing now its hard seeing him even get 20 points in a game lol

[NyCeEvO]

I wouldn't think twice about accepting a Rose/1stRder for JJ/Jack and it has much less to do with Rose himself as it does with asset accumulation.

Re: 2016 FA
The crop of 2017 FA players is much better than the 2016 FAs. Zach Lowe even came out with an understated and compelling argument for why KD could take a 1+1 deal like LBJ and try FA together with Westbrook.

Not only do I think Conley has peaked, but there's also the question of whether we've learned our lesson with giving out full-length max deals to near 30 year old PGs. At least D-Will was a top-3 PG when we traded for him. Conley has never and will never be a top 5 PG, and he doesn't carry a team. I'd argue that M.Gasol does more of the heavy lifting and Conley fills in a nice ancillary role as a 2nd/3rd option on a well-balanced Grizzlies team. If you bring him to the Nets and give him a fat max contract, you're doing the exact same thing you did with D-Will except you're doing it with a lesser talent tbh.

Since this is really becoming wing/scoring guard league, I'd rather focus my attention on Beal and/or DeRozan and I'm not even hot on either of these guys anyway.

Re: why I'd do the trade
IMO, it makes way more sense to punt this year's free agency and sign some role players (like what the Knicks did) and then try to go for broke in 2017.

Now, this brings me to the proposed D-Rose trade.

—RHJ gets more PT immediately.
—He comes off the books the same year we need him to come off the books.
—The Nets wouldn't be giving up anything of significant value by trading for him.
—It fits Yormarket's marketability and buzz schtick.
—We get at least a 1st rd pick and possibly Taj Gibson/Tony Snell just for agreeing to the deal.

And the last point is the most important one for me.

Throughout the entire summer, I've been thinking about the fact that the next few years will suck hard if King doesn't find a way to multiply the few assets we have.

Even if we did the trade and Rose was out for the season the very next day, the fact that we'd have a potential 1st rd pick is a huge coup and makeup for whatever pick Boston gets from us. On top of this, we'd add a defensive specialist in Taj Gibson (who admittedly is declining a bit) or Snell who can help us actually guard some teams.

We'd essentially be trading players who weren't going to be here next year anyway while having a cap structure better suited to make a compelling argument for a 2017 FA. Rehabilitating Rose is just a major cherry on top of the deal. And if Rose actually returned to semi-star form, you've hit a home run for 2017 recruiting and you've given Lopez and RHJ a solid running mate.

If King was presented the aforementioned deal, he'd be a fool to pass it up no matter what Rose's physical condition is. The chance at getting decent assets for nothing of value is too tantalizing especially for a team with as few assets as we have.

[Net Sentence]

29 points, 6 assists, and 5 rebounds is pretty good against westbrook and okc with bad knees and one eye

And all it took was being publicly called out on every national sports syndication. Havent we been down this road before with an injury prone diva PG who needed public humiliation to play hard?

[Net Sentence]

If we can get that Sacramento pick, Taj Gibson with Rose for just Joe and jack I do it in a heartbeat. Rose have not been playing well this season but he is definitely way better than Joe and Jack at this point. Bk will also have more fans by Derrick coming and his contract is only for this year and next year I believe so we wouldn´t have him for long if he does not play well. Taj could be good off the bench or a starter but I´m mostly looking at that Sacramento 2016 draft pick. If we need cap space to sign a FA this summer I´m sure we can trade Thad or Gibson for smaller contracts because they still do have value. I doubt we get any real good point guard this FA so it would not be terrible letting Rose handle that until 2017 FA when the real point guards are on the market .

Trading for Rose would be like when the Knicks traded for Steve Francis. Rose has two bad knees and double vision. Sacramento's pick is top 10 protected. Rose has a PER of 6.6 this year!!!!!

I would want a top 5 pick to take on Rose at minimum. Maybe we could get the Kings involved so they relinquish the protection on the pick but otherwise I say no. Rose isnt a playmaker and if he is gun shy on driving to the rim, he really doesnt have any value.

lol bro with all those problems he have, he is still better than Joe and Jack combined ! the kings pick is still very valuable because they can very much be the 8-11th seed in the west which will probably get us picks 11-15, I rather that than NO Picks at all. I also read that the bulls might be willing to add the kings pick AND their own pick as well . So 2 picks, taj gibson and rose is pretty much the best we can do for Joe johnson, Idk what else you want.... rose just dropped 30 points on OKC and the way Joe is playing now its hard seeing him even get 20 points in a game lol

It could just as easily be a 2nd round pick since that what it turns into if the Kings still suck which is much more likely. The Bulls pick is worthless. If we want a pick in the late 1st we can just buy one without losing our cap space next year. Taj Gibson is also coming off injury and getting to the age where PFs fall off a cliff.

The best we can do with Joe is let him expire if this is all we can get for him.

[NyCeEvO]

29 points, 6 assists, and 5 rebounds is pretty good against westbrook and okc with bad knees and one eye

And all it took was being publicly called out on every national sports syndication. Havent we been down this road before with an injury prone diva PG who needed public humiliation to play hard?

D-Will was criticized and he still didn't play hard, so no they're not the same.

On top of this, you're assuming that he's just been sitting back fully capable of doing what he did last night and it wasn't until he listened to Windhorst say something that he decided to turn it up. I highly doubt that.

But the proposed deal has so little to do with Rose as it does with getting more assets at a time where we desperately need them.

Getting a potential 1st rd pick and Gibson for Jack and JJ is more than worth it. I have no problem giving away their "leadership" for a pick and a player who plays defense. It helps us play better now, gets RHJ more PT, and gives us a better shot at 2017 FA rather than wasting our time with 2016 FA which we shouldn't even be aiming at.

[NyCeEvO]

Trading for Rose would be like when the Knicks traded for Steve Francis. Rose has two bad knees and double vision. Sacramento's pick is top 10 protected. Rose has a PER of 6.6 this year!!!!!

I would want a top 5 pick to take on Rose at minimum. Maybe we could get the Kings involved so they relinquish the protection on the pick but otherwise I say no. Rose isnt a playmaker and if he is gun shy on driving to the rim, he really doesnt have any value.

lol bro with all those problems he have, he is still better than Joe and Jack combined ! the kings pick is still very valuable because they can very much be the 8-11th seed in the west which will probably get us picks 11-15, I rather that than NO Picks at all. I also read that the bulls might be willing to add the kings pick AND their own pick as well . So 2 picks, taj gibson and rose is pretty much the best we can do for Joe johnson, Idk what else you want.... rose just dropped 30 points on OKC and the way Joe is playing now its hard seeing him even get 20 points in a game lol

It could just as easily be a 2nd round pick since that what it turns into if the Kings still suck which is much more likely. The Bulls pick is worthless. If we want a pick in the late 1st we can just buy one without losing our cap space next year. Taj Gibson is also coming off injury and getting to the age where PFs fall off a cliff.

The best we can do with Joe is let him expire if this is all we can get for him.

Or it could still be a 1st. We don't know.

Plus, the days of buying late 1st rounders are over. It didn't happen at all last year because teams know the rookie contract salaries are fixed despite the major cap increase. Having a late 1st round pick becomes a no risk asset because you're paying them next to nothing relative to the total team salary cap amount.

Even early 2nd round picks were hard to come by in this past draft so what you're suggesting is no longer a realistic option.

But the biggest question of all is if this is a bridge year where player performance ultimately doesn't matter, why are you for keeping two players who are bad and will almost definitely be gone next year when you can actually gain an asset even if it's a 2nd rd pick. There's nothing JJ or Jack will do this season that will be more valuable than even the smallest asset we get for next year and beyond.

[Net Sentence]

29 points, 6 assists, and 5 rebounds is pretty good against westbrook and okc with bad knees and one eye

And all it took was being publicly called out on every national sports syndication. Havent we been down this road before with an injury prone diva PG who needed public humiliation to play hard?

D-Will was criticized and he still didn't play hard, so no they're not the same.

On top of this, you're assuming that he's just been sitting back fully capable of doing what he did last night and it wasn't until he listened to Windhorst say something that he decided to turn it up. I highly doubt that.

But the proposed deal has so little to do with Rose as it does with getting more assets at a time where we desperately need them.

Getting a potential 1st rd pick and Gibson for Jack and JJ is more than worth it. I have no problem giving away their "leadership" for a pick and a player who plays defense. It helps us play better now, gets RHJ more PT, and gives us a better shot at 2017 FA rather than wasting our time with 2016 FA which we shouldn't even be aiming at.

In DWIll's first couple of years he was. If you remember, Linsanity started vs the Nets because DWill was coasting vs an opponent he thought was inferior. When he played Lin next, and the media hype that ensued, he offically ended the hype with his game at MSG. There were plenty of instances I can find if I go back where DWill needed a kick in the azz from the media to pick up his game.

I dont want anymore unmotivated slackers. I want players who are self motivated. Rose has been hesitant to attack this season which I cant fault him for since all of his serious injuries have come from driving the lane. Without him dominating that way he is a below average player IMO. He isnt a good shooter and he isnt much of a play maker.

It's not about giving up Joe and Jack, it's about giving away cap space for average assets. We cant afford to wait until 2017 FA unless you also want to trade Lopez. Lopez is in his prime right now. We are already wasting one of his prime years this season and I dont want to do it again next year also. It's going to take time to build through FA since players need time to gel and if we wait until 2017 FA we arent contenders until 2018 at the earliest IMO.

[Net Sentence]

lol bro with all those problems he have, he is still better than Joe and Jack combined ! the kings pick is still very valuable because they can very much be the 8-11th seed in the west which will probably get us picks 11-15, I rather that than NO Picks at all. I also read that the bulls might be willing to add the kings pick AND their own pick as well . So 2 picks, taj gibson and rose is pretty much the best we can do for Joe johnson, Idk what else you want.... rose just dropped 30 points on OKC and the way Joe is playing now its hard seeing him even get 20 points in a game lol

It could just as easily be a 2nd round pick since that what it turns into if the Kings still suck which is much more likely. The Bulls pick is worthless. If we want a pick in the late 1st we can just buy one without losing our cap space next year. Taj Gibson is also coming off injury and getting to the age where PFs fall off a cliff.

The best we can do with Joe is let him expire if this is all we can get for him.

Or it could still be a 1st. We don't know.

Plus, the days of buying late 1st rounders are over. It didn't happen at all last year because teams know the rookie contract salaries are fixed despite the major cap increase. Having a late 1st round pick becomes a no risk asset because you're paying then next to nothing.

Even early 2nd round picks were hard to come by in this past draft so what you're suggesting is no longer a realistic option.

But the biggest question of all is if this is a bridge year where player performance ultimately doesn't matter, why are you for keeping two players who are bad and will almost definitely be gone next year when you can actually gain an asset even if it's a 2nd rd pick. There's nothing JJ or Jack will do this season that will be more valuable than even the smallest asset we get for next year and beyond.

1 draft does not create a trend. We were able to get a late round pick last season by trading Plumlee. I dont see why we couldnt get the same or even better value by trading Bogs in the final year of his deal if we really wanted to get a 1st rounder. Those are much more likely situations since we can shed salary. You want to bring in Rose and Taj, who are both dead money contracts, to get a non top 10 pick that has a high chance of becoming a 2nd round pick? No thanks. I would rather have a young veteran like Harrison Barnes who has had success in the NBA and will only get better.

[NyCeEvO]

And all it took was being publicly called out on every national sports syndication. Havent we been down this road before with an injury prone diva PG who needed public humiliation to play hard?

D-Will was criticized and he still didn't play hard, so no they're not the same.

On top of this, you're assuming that he's just been sitting back fully capable of doing what he did last night and it wasn't until he listened to Windhorst say something that he decided to turn it up. I highly doubt that.

But the proposed deal has so little to do with Rose as it does with getting more assets at a time where we desperately need them.

Getting a potential 1st rd pick and Gibson for Jack and JJ is more than worth it. I have no problem giving away their "leadership" for a pick and a player who plays defense. It helps us play better now, gets RHJ more PT, and gives us a better shot at 2017 FA rather than wasting our time with 2016 FA which we shouldn't even be aiming at.

In DWIll's first couple of years he was. If you remember, Linsanity started vs the Nets because DWill was coasting vs an opponent he thought was inferior. When he played Lin next, and the media hype that ensued, he offically ended the hype with his game at MSG. There were plenty of instances I can find if I go back where DWill needed a kick in the azz from the media to pick up his game.

I dont want anymore unmotivated slackers. I want players who are self motivated.

I remember Linsanity quite well. I remember D-Will's response to it the next time he played the Knicks. It was one of my favorite highlight videos to watch over and over again during the past few seasons.

The problem is that you're making the great assumption that D-Will didn't take it personally that he was lit up by an (at the time) unknown D-leaguer. NBA players don't read newspapers and I don't think D-Will said "Ok....I won't care about basketball until we play the Knicks again. Then I'll go out and prove to them how good I am." It's a fun theory but it's not based on any facts.

D-Will didn't decline because he didn't care and then started getting injured. He started getting injured first and then became borderline depressed that he couldn't play like he used to. The one phrase that we've heard about D-Will ever since he started declining both from him and from the coaching staff was "a lack of confidence".

We only watch the players for 2.5 hours on game night. Those dudes are putting in work for hours on end every day. Guys who get injured or get older are more likely to hang it up because the amount prep time needed just to play at a decent level isn't worth all of the criticism from fans who have no idea what's going on for them. The fan side of me got tired of D-Will but the rational side of me completely understood what happened and why D-Will ultimately folded.

D-Rose has had multiple knee injuries. I don't know if I would have the mental fortitude to rehab for 2 years just to get back to playing basketball. The fear of something going wrong again is a huge mental block and the physical and psychological preparation needed to perform at a high level is so demanding. Saying that D-Rose simply doesn't care about basketball could very well be true, but given all that he's done to get back from his multitude of injuries and still possess the level of confidence he has in himself proves to me that he's mentally soft at all.

You can say that he's selfish but he's already got a 300mil in salaries and endorsements. He has nothing left to prove and yet he's still going out there and trying to get it together. We may not like him as a person but I do think people need to respect what he's gone through just to get back to playing on an NBA court again.

Rose has been hesitant to attack this season which I cant fault him for since all of his serious injuries have come from driving the lane. Without him dominating that way he is a below average player IMO. He isnt a good shooter and he isnt much of a play maker.

It's only been 6 games. If I could only see out of one eye most of the time I'd be pretty hesitant too. Last night he demonstrated an ability to attack and make the right play. Even at his current level, he's a tough cover.

We don't need him to be a good shooter and I'd disagree about the playmaking ability because if anything I think the injuries have forced him to be more of a playmaker. It's funny that you cite Harrison Barnes as an improving playmaker with a rather unimpressive 3.4 assts per 36 but then you talk about Rose in ability to be a player maker even though he's averaging 5.7 assists in 31.7 minutes with blurred vision. Double standard? I think so.

It's not about giving up Joe and Jack, it's about giving away cap space for average assets. We cant afford to wait until 2017 FA unless you also want to trade Lopez. Lopez is in his prime right now. We are already wasting one of his prime years this season and I dont want to do it again next year also. It's going to take time to build through FA since players need time to gel and if we wait until 2017 FA we arent contenders until 2018 at the earliest IMO.

We can't afford to wait until 2017? Our current predicament indicates that if nothing were to change, we'd still have the same pieces in 2019 and can only begin to legitimately rebuild then.

All of the arguments about getting these young guys to come to the Nets within the next calendar year are all pipedreams. We don't have assets to trade for them and they're all RFA which gives the home team a major advantage. You're acting like we've got the upperhand and we clearly don't.

Frankly, I could care less about "wasting" Lopez' prime years. In fact, he knew we were going into rebuilding and he said himself that he was completely ok with it and wanted to stay on the team despite getting offers from other organizations with better outlooks.

You're complaining about waiting less than 2 years for a better chance at free agency because it will take until 2018 to contend?

There's a way, way higher chance for the Nets to be a lottery team in 2018 than be a contender. I like your optimism but you're going overboard. Most people are talking about the fact that we can't even start rebuilding until we get our assets back in 2019 and then trying to build something from there and hope to contend in the early 2020s.

The quickest way to right the ship is not buying overpaying RFAs and praying that they develop the skills to be worth their huge contract. The best thing to do is stockpile assets because we have next to nothing right now.

Getting any future asset for Jack and JJ is a step in the right direction. Even though I do think JJ will improve to the degree that he'll only be slightly below average instead of the terrible level he's at right now, his presence on the team doesn't mean anything since he's not leading us to wins and won't be here next year.

Morey only got Harden because he stockpiled assets, was smart about the choices he made, and he didn't overpay for players. It's time for Billy to learn how to be smart regardless of how many assets you have.

The assets we get outside of Rose are worth the trade by themselves. Throwing in Rose (no matter what happens to him) gives you the opportunity to help a guy who clearly still possesses the talent to be a top 5-10 PG on a nightly basis for less than 2 years. If it doesn't work out, you go into 2017 FA with a whole crop full of stud players and a more attractive roster than you had for 2016.

The benefit of the trade is so much more about the future than it is about Rose, which is exactly King won't do it. He's more invested in keeping a clean cut image and focusing on the now (while his teams consistently underachieve) than looking ahead.

[NyCeEvO]

It could just as easily be a 2nd round pick since that what it turns into if the Kings still suck which is much more likely. The Bulls pick is worthless. If we want a pick in the late 1st we can just buy one without losing our cap space next year. Taj Gibson is also coming off injury and getting to the age where PFs fall off a cliff.

The best we can do with Joe is let him expire if this is all we can get for him.

Or it could still be a 1st. We don't know.

Plus, the days of buying late 1st rounders are over. It didn't happen at all last year because teams know the rookie contract salaries are fixed despite the major cap increase. Having a late 1st round pick becomes a no risk asset because you're paying then next to nothing.

Even early 2nd round picks were hard to come by in this past draft so what you're suggesting is no longer a realistic option.

But the biggest question of all is if this is a bridge year where player performance ultimately doesn't matter, why are you for keeping two players who are bad and will almost definitely be gone next year when you can actually gain an asset even if it's a 2nd rd pick. There's nothing JJ or Jack will do this season that will be more valuable than even the smallest asset we get for next year and beyond.

1 draft does not create a trend. We were able to get a late round pick last season by trading Plumlee. I dont see why we couldnt get the same or even better value by trading Bogs in the final year of his deal if we really wanted to get a 1st rounder. Those are much more likely situations since we can shed salary. You want to bring in Rose and Taj, who are both dead money contracts, to get a non top 10 pick that has a high chance of becoming a 2nd round pick? No thanks. I would rather have a young veteran like Harrison Barnes who has had success in the NBA and will only get better.

No, you're not listening. Last year was not some aberration. It's a complete shift in approach due to the upcoming CBA.

This is widespread knowledge. Every major NBA reporter covering the draft has noted this. Teams are no longer selling their 1st round draft choice because it's throwing away an asset for absolutely 0 risk.

And that's not what happened with the Plumlee trade. The average NBA career is 3 years. Plumlee isn't a good player but he fills a solid role on a team. He will certainly have a career that spans longer than 3 years because teams like his athleticism and still believe he's got some untapped potential.

We told the Blazers to pick RHJ if he was still there by the time they selected so it wasn't about us trading for a pick as much as it was that we really wanted a player. The Blazers wanted Plumlee and believed he was worth more than the pick they gave to us.

We didn't buy a pick. We traded Plumlee for RHJ.

Bogs might be worth a late 1st rounder but Billy seems to like Bogs and believes in his talent. Plus, getting a late 1st round pick doesn't automatically entail that the player selected at that spot will be better than Bogs. There are tons of players who are worse than Bogs.

We'd be actually giving a positive asset for an unknown which is completely different from the Rose deal in which you're giving up negatives for an unknown. At worst, the unknown is also a negative and you get rid him and his tiny rookie contract for nothing.

You keep bringing up the Rose deal as if the main reason for getting is for them. Not only would I argue the merit of Rose and Taj being dead weight contracts but you're completely failing to see that the trade is about shedding two undisputed dead weight players & contracts in JJ and Jack for at least 1 asset.

It doesn't matter if it's "just" a 2nd round pick because the Jack and JJ "just" suck. Rose and Taj would undoubtedly perform better than they would and on top of that you've now got an extra 2nd round pick (which can still be high since the Kings probably won't be that good). But if the Kings end up surprising people and aren't one of the 10 worst teams in the league, you've now got a 1st rounder when you previously had none.

I understand why a Barnes or Beal seems like a good option. I just think you're greatly underestimating how much power their respective teams have and how much we'd have to overpay just to increase our chances to sign them. This is putting us right back in the same situation that we were in 2 years ago.

I do the trade now and go after the better 2017 free agency pool rather than overpay or strikeout in the 2016 free agency which would greatly hinder our chances of getting another big piece in 2017.

[MrDollarBills]

Give me Rose/Gibson and a 2016 1st rd for Joe/jack's expirings and I do it. 2017 is when we need maximum capspace anyway, 2016 should be smart, incremental signings. If Rose can stay in one piece he can help us get to turn the ship around. If not, well whatever we were **** ed either way. So this is a deal where the Nets literally have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

I'm with NyCE, I always have looked at 2016 as a punt regarding FA. No A tier/B tier players are coming here and none of the C tier guys are worth maxing out. If you can tell me we can get Rose/Gibson and a way back into this year's draft, and both of those contracts expire when we need them to in 2017 its a no brainer.

Lopez/Bargs/Reed
Thad/Gibson/TROB/McC
RHJ/Karasuck
Bojan/Ellington/Brown
Rose/Larkin/Sloan

Now you can cure the log jam at SF by using Thad situationally at the 3 at times. Also, it opens up minutes for RHJ and gives us one last good look at Karasuck. It may suck for TROB because I think the guy is playing his ass off but hey, it is what it is. Maybe you shift him to back up C.

I'd do this trade without thinking twice as long as a 2016 1st rd pick is included. Bulls need that capspace in 2016 more than we do because they are an attractive destination for that FA class. Nets can potentially turn their season around, get back into the draft, and avoid the embarrassment of giving Boston a top 3 pick.

Win/win for both sides.