The Wizards big man situation is an embarrassment

[Ruzious]

This is what happens when we don't offer the max to our young talented big man (Seraphin)

And if we had only been patient enough to give Blatche and Kwame that key 10th year of development.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Blatche is better than Humphries or Gooden.

[bsilver]

This is what happens when we don't offer the max to our young talented big man (Seraphin)

Seraphin wanted more playing time, and now he's getting 6 minutes per game. Maybe he'll get an attitude and the Knicks will give him back.

[J-Ves]

I knew we should of signed Josh Harrellson.

[WizKid25]

Nene is driving me nuts. Gortat's passing has been nice.

[dangermouse]

Its more the PF situation.

Hump is just not cutting it at all.

I honestly think Nene playing backup C minutes isnt working either.

My solutions that I can think of off the top of my head: Dudders needs to get into game shape and take Hump's minutes, with Hump playing back on the second unit again. OR we put Nene back into the starting PF spot, which is less ideal for this up tempo offense but has worked before. OR the least likely option, finding a starting PF that isnt on our team.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Nene is driving me nuts. Gortat's passing has been nice.

Atleast Nene looked like he cared tonight. For most of the game, he was pretty good.

[dangermouse]

I take it back, Dudley in game shape is not the answer. Dude doesnt rebound. Is he allergic?

Rebounding and turnovers killed us against the Hawks. We could have and should have won that game. Wall, and Beal, need to take better care of the ball. Less lazy passes. Less early 3s in the shot clock.

Our offense looked great in the playoffs. What is this we are getting now? Is it rust? Will we be fine a few more games in? Its absolute garbage right now, we barely look like a playoff team.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

I take it back, Dudley in game shape is not the answer. Dude doesnt rebound. Is he allergic?

Rebounding and turnovers killed us against the Hawks. We could have and should have won that game. Wall, and Beal, need to take better care of the ball. Less lazy passes. Less early 3s in the shot clock.

Our offense looked great in the playoffs. What is this we are getting now? Is it rust? Will we be fine a few more games in? Its absolute garbage right now, we barely look like a playoff team.

A motivated, playoff Pierce is the big difference.

Think about the rebounds he would have snagged last night and the momentum generating threes he would have splashed in contrast to Dudley's clanks.

Right now, Dudley is good from about three feet inside the arch. Doesn't have the range for threes. On the bright side, he does have a history of hitting threes...

But I'm not sure we can replace Pierce's rebounding and underrated post defense.

[Induveca]

Taking away Pierce and Nene from the starting lineup is the major difference. Either of those guys when motivated could dominate in a variety of ways.

[closg00]

Taking away Pierce and Nene from the starting lineup is the major difference. Either of those guys when motivated could dominate in a variety of ways.

Jenga! Let's see how Randy responds, but quite frankly, he doesn't have anyting to work with as was pointed out by the CSN commentators before yesterdays game (paraphrasing).

[queridiculo]

Jenga! Let's see how Randy responds, but quite frankly, he doesn't have anyting to work with as was pointed out by the CSN commentators before yesterdays game (paraphrasing).

Basically Wittman's only option is to put Nene back into the starting lineup and go to a more grind it out approach on offense.

The trouble with that is that Nene looks like he either doesn't care, or that he simply doesn't have enough left in his tank to be effective on the floor for any length of time.

Grunfeld has done such a thorough job pissing in the wind with his draft picks that Washington is basically facing a rebuild right when Leonsis is ready to raise the mission accomplished banner.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Nene has played hard and with a lot of energy.

I get sick of reading Nene doesn't care.

At this stage of his career his lift simply isn't there many nights. He's physically wearing down but I believe there's nothing lacking in his effort. The latter of what queridiculo said applies. His tank is wearing down.

He is not tanking. The guy has come to play every since Washington acquired him.

[AFM]

Nene has played hard and with a lot of energy.

I get sick of reading Nene doesn't care.

At this stage of his career his lift simply isn't there many nights. He's physically wearing down but I believe there's nothing lacking in his effort. The latter of what queridiculo said applies. His tank is wearing down.

He is not tanking. The guy has come to play every since Washington acquired him.

He was a beast last night.

Posterized Muscala.

The only person who looked like he didn't care was John, throwing the ball to the other team completely lackadaisically.

[WallToWall]

I dont think its a question of "bringing it". Our bigs do "bring it", but the problem is that they're just not *that* talented, they are older, and slower. No amount of coaching will fix that. They belong on the bench.

[payitforward]

The good news is we're 3-3. The season isn't over. The bad news is that we're *lucky* to be 3-3. In 6 games, we are down 33 points overall to our opponents. On a full season, point differential and win-loss record correlate very closely.

Everybody is pointing out the obvious -- we have no decent bigs outside of Gortat. The thing is... was this some kind of mystery to our FO? Did they *really* think they could rely on Gooden and Humphries to provide excellence at the 4? Did they really not notice as Nene aged? Did they really not think the team needed to get younger and more athletic up front?

We can't rebound. Bismack Biyombo, whom some of us wanted *badly* this off-season, and who it cost next to nothing to wrap up for 3 seasons, and who just turned 23, is averaging something like 17 boards per 40 minutes -- a large % of them offensive (where we are particularly lacking). Other guys were available too. And it would have been possible to rise in R2 to take someone as well.

Oh well... same old story.

[Hidden Eye]

Too early in season to panic.

[Illmatic12]

I take it back, Dudley in game shape is not the answer. Dude doesnt rebound. Is he allergic?

Rebounding and turnovers killed us against the Hawks. We could have and should have won that game. Wall, and Beal, need to take better care of the ball. Less lazy passes. Less early 3s in the shot clock.

Our offense looked great in the playoffs. What is this we are getting now? Is it rust? Will we be fine a few more games in? Its absolute garbage right now, we barely look like a playoff team.

A motivated, playoff Pierce is the big difference.

Think about the rebounds he would have snagged last night and the momentum generating threes he would have splashed in contrast to Dudley's clanks.

Right now, Dudley is good from about three feet inside the arch. Doesn't have the range for threes. On the bright side, he does have a history of hitting threes...

But I'm not sure we can replace Pierce's rebounding and underrated post defense.

This is the ultimate hot take, lol. This poor start is because of Pierce.. right. Yet 'The Truth wasn't doing a damn thing when we went on that 10-12 game slide last season, and the team looked 10x worse than they do now losing to the Sixers.

And he wasn't playing any 'post defense' last year considering we were using him as an SF

Our SF position hasn't been the problem this season.

[popper]

The good news is we're 3-3. The season isn't over. The bad news is that we're *lucky* to be 3-3. In 6 games, we are down 33 points overall to our opponents. On a full season, point differential and win-loss record correlate very closely.

Everybody is pointing out the obvious -- we have no decent bigs outside of Gortat. The thing is... was this some kind of mystery to our FO? Did they *really* think they could rely on Gooden and Humphries to provide excellence at the 4? Did they really not notice as Nene aged? Did they really not think the team needed to get younger and more athletic up front?

We can't rebound. Bismack Biyombo, whom some of us wanted *badly* this off-season, and who it cost next to nothing to wrap up for 3 seasons, and who just turned 23, is averaging something like 17 boards per 40 minutes -- a large % of them offensive (where we are particularly lacking). Other guys were available too. And it would have been possible to rise in R2 to take someone as well.

Oh well... same old story.

Exactly. The GM is simply not competent. Replace Grunfeld now and execute a proper tank. A good GM can leverage our core next year, add a lottery pick, and sign FA to balance the roster. Wall, Beal, Porter, Gortat, Oubre and a lottery pick big is a decent core to start over again for the umpteenth time.

[TGW]

Exactly. The GM is simply not competent. Replace Grunfeld now and execute a proper tank. A good GM can leverage our core next year, add a lottery pick, and sign FA to balance the roster. Wall, Beal, Porter, Gortat, Oubre and a lottery pick big is a decent core to start over again for the umpteenth time.

I don't think they need to tank. Year in and year out, there are solid players throughout the draft and in free agency that could potentially help us. Unfortunately, Grunfail has sold the concept that draft picks are a crapshoot (usually the words of a terrible drafting GM) and that we're better off selling them for cash than actually using them. That's why our 2nd rounders get thrown in trades or outright sold, while teams like the Spurs are constantly churning out talented 2nd round picks.

So no to tanking. Yes to better scouting and use of assets.