Lions Leadup

Post #1 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Nov 9, 2015 4:17 pm

Alright, time to look ahead. If we lose to a team we haven't lost at home to in over 20 years, then I'll be on the Chicken Little bandwagon.

Iheartfootball · Post #2 » by **Iheartfootball** » Mon Nov 9, 2015 4:35 pm

Serious question, is Eddie Lacy our Trent Richardson?

Flames24Rulz · Post #3 » by **Flames24Rulz** » Mon Nov 9, 2015 5:18 pm

Iheartfootball wrote:Serious question, is Eddie Lacy our Trent Richardson?

No.

chuckleslove · Post #4 » by **chuckleslove** » Mon Nov 9, 2015 5:47 pm

Iheartfootball wrote:Serious question, is Eddie Lacy our Trent Richardson?

Trent never did anything, Lacy at least accomplished something his first couple of seasons.

Post #5 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Nov 9, 2015 6:46 pm

Weight, ankle, O-Line issues, motivation, I don't know what's going on with him but Starks needs to get the bulk of playing time. I'm glad we haven't invested a lot of money in Lacy.

crkone · Post #6 » by **crkone** » Mon Nov 9, 2015 9:21 pm

It's funny how many things have gone sour the past 3 weeks. At least Masthay and Crosby have been okay.

Post #7 » by **MickeyDavis** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 3:52 am

11.5 point favorites. Oy

Balls2TheWalls · Post #8 » by **Balls2TheWalls** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 8:17 am

The Packers need to re-dedicate themselves to the passing game. Going with the run was fine when Eddie Lacy was breaking tackles at the 2nd level and making teams pay with consistent 15+ yard carries in games. Eddie Lacy looking like he ate another Eddie Lacy should make us rethink this. We should be defining ourselves as a team that is willing to play with the short passing game instead of the running game.

I think that we bury the Lions, but I think that the offense needs to be put into cut throat mode. We need to be running up scores and we should be looking to drop 50 on the Lions. This team has had too much talent for too long to continue to be okay with just walking out of a game with a win. I think that is the only way I take anything out of a win over the Lions.

HKPackFan · Post #9 » by **HKPackFan** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 8:39 am

Couple things I'm interested in:

Does Jake Ryan start and Palmer hit the bench? The coaching staff was noncommittal nor say he was an improvement.

If Sam Shields comes back the coaches do realize Randall has to start outside right? Not just in nickel. Hayward is trash outside.

Starks is the starter, lacy is the backup for now. They have to realize that right?

Janis and Abby got a few reps sunday, any chance they can get a few more? Especially on passing downs where Dick Rodgers gives them nothing. My only caveat to this is I'm wondering if Arod is the one who's not comfortable with them so the coaches aren't giving them as many snaps? I know Rodgers has high standards and expectations for his WRs and if he doesn't trust them he won't even bother to look their way. Lately it seems rodgers doesn't even trust his own main targets so not sure how much worse it can get throwing those 2 in there? I don't know what is the story but maybe they are not doing enough in practice.

Can Abby at least try kickoffs again? I know he f'd up on taking a bad one out and it turned into a safety a play later, but I think he's got more pop than Hyde on KOs. On the last return Hyde had some open lanes but he just seemed too slow to take advantage of it.

KidA24 · Post #10 » by **KidA24** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 2:18 pm

HKPackFan wrote:Couple things I'm interested in:

Does Jake Ryan start and Palmer hit the bench? The coaching staff was noncommittal nor say he was an improvement.

If Sam Shields comes back the coaches do realize Randall has to start outside right? Not just in nickel. Hayward is trash outside.

Starks is the starter, lacy is the backup for now. They have to realize that right?

Janis and Abby got a few reps sunday, any chance they can get a few more? Especially on passing downs where Dick Rodgers gives them nothing. My only caveat to this is I'm wondering if Arod is the one who's not comfortable with them so the coaches aren't giving them as many snaps? I know Rodgers has high standards and expectations for his WRs and if he doesn't trust them he won't even bother to look their way. Lately it seems rodgers doesn't even trust his own main targets so not sure how much worse it can get throwing those 2 in there? I don't know what is the story but maybe they are not doing enough in practice.

Can Abby at least try kickoffs again? I know he f'd up on taking a bad one out and it turned into a safety a play later, but I think he's got more pop than Hyde on KOs. On the last return Hyde had some open lanes but he just seemed too slow to take advantage of it.

If all they do is bring in Janis and have him run go routes in 4 WR sets, it would free up so much space for Adams/Cobb working in the slot. Rodgers does nothing lining up in the slot as anyone smaller than him blankets him (and he can't break tackles) and anyone bigger than him just stuffs him at the line.

jimmybones · Post #11 » by **jimmybones** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 2:42 pm

KidA24 wrote:
HKPackFan wrote:Couple things I'm interested in:

Does Jake Ryan start and Palmer hit the bench? The coaching staff was noncommittal nor say he was an improvement.

If Sam Shields comes back the coaches do realize Randall has to start outside right? Not just in nickel. Hayward is trash outside.

Starks is the starter, lacy is the backup for now. They have to realize that right?

Janis and Abby got a few reps sunday, any chance they can get a few more? Especially on passing downs where Dick Rodgers gives them nothing. My only caveat to this is I'm wondering if Arod is the one who's not comfortable with them so the coaches aren't giving them as many snaps? I know Rodgers has high standards and expectations for his WRs and if he doesn't trust them he won't even bother to look their way. Lately it seems rodgers doesn't even trust his own main targets so not sure how much worse it can get throwing those 2 in there? I don't know what is the story but maybe they are not doing enough in practice.

Can Abby at least try kickoffs again? I know he f'd up on taking a bad one out and it turned into a safety a play later, but I think he's got more pop than Hyde on KOs. On the last return Hyde had some open lanes but he just seemed too slow to take advantage of it.

If all they do is bring in Janis and have him run go routes in 4 WR sets, it would free up so much space for Adams/Cobb working in the slot. Rodgers does nothing lining up in the slot as anyone smaller than him blankets him (and he can't break tackles) and anyone bigger than him just stuffs him at the line.

What really blew my mind was a play, I think from this week. We had WR trips right, and we go to Rodgers split wide left, and he was the first read. On what planet is Rodgers on a CB a better option than ANY of our WR?!

I got it guys. Let's work to get Richard Rodgers one on one situations.

Wat.

Flames24Rulz · Post #12 » by **Flames24Rulz** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:51 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:11.5 point favorites. Oy

The Lions defense is god awful. This game really shouldn't be close.

thomchatt3rton · Post #13 » by **thomchatt3rton** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 5:25 pm

Balls2TheWalls wrote:The Packers need to re-dedicate themselves to the passing game.

I totally agree. The problem is, they don't have the horses right now to do what they want. We have Cobb Jones and a banged Adams. And one TE. A couple of weeks ago, Edgar Bennett was quoted in the paper as saying that the offense can't even run the majority of schemes and plays they've practiced- too many missing personnel. So I guess the good news is that we've got alot of offense loaded up and ready to go, and its stuff that other teams haven't even seen yet. So if we get healthy at WR, get Quarless back, we could very well roll. I hope.

HKPackFan · Post #14 » by **HKPackFan** » Wed Nov 11, 2015 4:44 am

jimmybones wrote:
KidA24 wrote:
HKPackFan wrote:Couple things I'm interested in:

Does Jake Ryan start and Palmer hit the bench? The coaching staff was noncommittal nor say he was an improvement.

If Sam Shields comes back the coaches do realize Randall has to start outside right? Not just in nickel. Hayward is trash outside.

Starks is the starter, lacy is the backup for now. They have to realize that right?

Janis and Abby got a few reps sunday, any chance they can get a few more? Especially on passing downs where Dick Rodgers gives them nothing. My only caveat to this is I'm wondering if Arod is the one who's not comfortable with them so the coaches aren't giving them as many snaps? I know Rodgers has high standards and expectations for his WRs and if he doesn't trust them he won't even bother to look their way. Lately it seems rodgers doesn't even trust his own main targets so not sure how much worse it can get throwing those 2 in there? I don't know what is the story but maybe they are not doing enough in practice.

Can Abby at least try kickoffs again? I know he f'd up on taking a bad one out and it turned into a safety a play later, but I think he's got more pop than Hyde on KOs. On the last return Hyde had some open lanes but he just seemed too slow to take advantage of it.

If all they do is bring in Janis and have him run go routes in 4 WR sets, it would free up so much space for Adams/Cobb working in the slot. Rodgers does nothing lining up in the slot as anyone smaller than him blankets him (and he can't break tackles) and anyone bigger than him just stuffs him at the line.

What really blew my mind was a play, I think from this week. We had WR trips right, and we go to Rodgers split wide left, and he was the first read. On what planet is Rodgers on a CB a better option than ANY of our WR?!

I got it guys. Let's work to get Richard Rodgers one on one situations.

Wat.

I read yesterday they put 65 year old Roman Harper on Dick Rodgers. Carolina was pleased they found a player grandpa Harper could even cover.

Ron Swanson · Post #15 » by **Ron Swanson** » Wed Nov 11, 2015 4:07 pm

I'm not usually much on style points in the NFL, but we need to make a statement and hang 40+ on this Lions team, no excuses. Losing to two unbeaten teams on the road is at least understandable, but if this one is still close in the 4th quarter, it's not a good sign for this team going forward.

No idea what's wrong with Lacy, but you can't wait around for him to get it going. Give Starks and maybe even Alonzo Harris the entirety of carries and hope that Lacy rights himself in time for December and January football. It's really all you can do at this point.

If the defense makes Stafford look good then I'm right back to captaining the fire Capers train.

raysbookclub · Post #16 » by **raysbookclub** » Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:13 pm

We will crush them.

Post #17 » by **humanrefutation** » Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:15 pm

If we don't blow them out, I'll be worried.

But as of right now? I'm not worried. I'm more...uncomfortable.

Iheartfootball · Post #18 » by **Iheartfootball** » Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:28 pm

The thing is, if I agree publicly (and I do) that McCarthy, Capers, and staff are very much to blame for the lackadaisical play the last two weeks does that mean I also agree with all the points BUCKSFORLIFE makes?

No. I don't. But they are and so is TT and so is Mark Murphy. I read that article by Lori Nickel about Murphy has overseen Lambeau's transformation into a sanctuary for the players and as much as I thought that was great I was also left with, as Mark Cuban put so eloquently, 'Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. And they're getting hoggy.'

They need their edge back. That *hopefully* starts this week. But I'm not holding my breath.

James1980 · Post #19 » by **James1980** » Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:03 pm

James Starks is the starter headed into Detroit game per Rob Demovsky. Starks is averaging 5.9 yards per rush the last 4 games and Lacy is averaging 2.4.

Ron Swanson · Post #20 » by **Ron Swanson** » Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:57 pm

James1980 wrote:James Starks is the starter headed into Detroit game per Rob Demovsky. Starks is averaging 5.9 yards per rush the last 4 games and Lacy is averaging 2.4.

Probably the most no-brainer move of the week. Hopefully it lights a fire under Lacy. We need him at his best for the playoffs and Starks has never been a guy you can give the full workload to because of his durability history.