Non-threadworthy MMA Rumors/Quotes/Tweets/Etc., Vol. 4

Post #81 » by **CPT** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:43 pm

Cro Cop has retired.

Something something injury.

I think it's a broken heart from the shorts.

REDDzone · Post #82 » by **REDDzone** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:50 pm

He probably realized he would make $5k on sponsorships for this fight. Lol that seems ridiculous for a guy like CroCop.

SDM · Post #83 » by **SDM** » Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:01 am

It honestly just sounds like he's fed up with Reebok, UFC, everything.

The shorts are overall okay. I understand the job and business, and I understand that now everyone will have to fight in these Reebok shorts with their name. I tried to see if the uniform could incorporate some of my essential elements such as the boxes that I always wear. I was in constant contact with people from the UFC, but in the end it was not realized. They were very correct and patient, but in the end they failed to explain why I can not have a chessboard on my shorts. I do not understand who would mind? Their attitude is that all fighters could ask for something specific. I'll have to accept this because I perform for this promotion. I do not like this, since the checkerboard has been my trademark shorts since my first fight. They promised to put a large Croatian coat of arms on my sweats and that after the match will be able to have a flag in a cage. You do not have that much choice: either accept or you can't fight.

From a week ago. UFC's model is so foreign to him... probably 100 pro fights and now he can't have sponsors? Now his manager's pull is limited? How many people in Croatia depend on him to make as much money as possible? FOH Dana, you can't strongarm the most famous man in the Balkans.

SDM · Post #84 » by **SDM** » Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:20 am

Anyone listen to MMAHour? First two guests (besides Meltzer, who sounds like a different person on Skype vs. over the phone, by the way) were Bader and Wonderboy, and both of them openly mentioned that they felt UFC did them dirty in their latest matchmaking.

Then I pop on the sites, see Cro Cop's retired, and there's something about Ben Rothwell being disappointed that he couldn't take Cro Cop's place, meaning Anthony Hamilton is in Korea now with no fight lined up. What an awful organization.

REDDzone · Post #85 » by **REDDzone** » Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:35 am

Yea Wonderboy said he was disappointed that they canceled his fight and of course they didn't tell him about it. He said it was okay though because pulling Magny made sense since he trains at altitude in Denver and the fight vs Gastelum is in Mexico City. Then Ariel awkwardly had to tell him that the fight in Mexico wasn't in Mexico City or at altitude lol.

Bader has just accepted being sh*t on at this point lol.

Post #86 » by **Shaazzam** » Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:38 pm

ugg
my interest is minimal
great job Dana on not being **** stupid like boxing was!

Jasen777 · Post #87 » by **Jasen777** » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:37 pm

Shaazzam wrote:ugg
my interest is minimal
great job Dana on not being **** stupid like boxing was!

Boxing peaked in '85 for sure.

30 for 30 on Rocky IV.

SDM · Post #88 » by **SDM** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:38 am

Jasen777 wrote:
Shaazzam wrote:ugg
my interest is minimal
great job Dana on not being **** stupid like boxing was!

Boxing peaked in '85 for sure.

30 for 30 on Rocky IV.

Gonna watch the hell out of that tomorrow. Thanks man.

SDM · Post #89 » by **SDM** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:39 am

Clicked the link. Oh.

Jasen777 · Post #90 » by **Jasen777** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:42 am

SDM wrote:Clicked the link. Oh.

Still good though.

Post #91 » by **CPT** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:58 am

http://mmajunkie.com/2015/11/officials-recently-retired-cro-cop-first-ufc-fighter-to-fail-usada-drug-test

Well that explains that.

SDM · Post #92 » by **SDM** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:10 am

CPT wrote:http://mmajunkie.com/2015/11/officials-recently-retired-cro-cop-first-ufc-fighter-to-fail-usada-drug-test

Well that explains that.

Ugh.

REDDzone · Post #93 » by **REDDzone** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:13 am

Makes sense.

SDM · Post #94 » by **SDM** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:49 am

While UFC framed it as him being cut, turns out Ramsay Nijem wanted to negotiate a better deal and was threatened with unfavourable match ups if he didn't re-sign. The fight they set up for him was a prelim fight against a newcomer. Combined with the new testing requirement to inform them of your whereabouts, money he claims to be losing on sponsors (remember, while he didn't win, he was on prime time TV and will be in syndication when it gets to that point), and not being able to use IV so he can stay at LW, it sounds like it was his decision to leave and not UFC's.

Jasen777 · Post #95 » by **Jasen777** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:02 am

Luis Santos misses weight, ONE Championship main event with Ben Askren ‘under negotiation’

Santos trains with American Top Team BTW.

REDDzone · Post #96 » by **REDDzone** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:39 am

Santos was HUGE.

He said he just had some water/juice (no food) and is already at 190. lol.

I admit I'm biased but I hope Ben sticks to his guns.

cowboyronnie · Post #97 » by **cowboyronnie** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:23 pm

REDDzone wrote:Santos was HUGE.

He said he just had some water/juice (no food) and is already at 190. lol.

I admit I'm biased but I hope Ben sticks to his guns.

Victor Cui
‏@victoronefc

I'm disgusted. Sapo fails to make weight then despite Askren offering a fight at 190lbs, Sapo still refuses. Completely unprofessional #ONE

Askren wanted him 190 day of fight, Santos couldn't/didn't do it.

Jasen777 · Post #98 » by **Jasen777** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:43 pm

Well this is just from Askren, but it doesn't seem like Santos was dedicated to making this fight happen (Which doesn't make any sense to me given how well he did in the first fight and what a big win it'd be for him if he could beat Askren).

Ben Askren tells story of how ONE title fight against 'clown' Luis Santos fell apart on fight day

"So ONE FC asks him, let's fight in June," Askren recounted on a video he posted Friday morning to Facebook. "I say yeah, let's fight in June. He says, ‘no, my eye.' ONE offers him a fight in July. He says, ‘no, I can't, my eye.' I say okay, fine. They say September. I say lets fight in September. He says, ‘no, I don't want to fight in September.'

"Meanwhile, I get a message from a Titan [FC rep] that he's asking for a fight in Titan. And I actually have a screenshot of him saying, ‘I don't have a contract with ONE, it's only in Asia. I can fight in America.' So he's totally lying."

Askren said terms were eventually reached for a ONE title rematch in November, however once Thursday arrived, Santos missed weight by 4.5 pounds upon his first attempt. Santos was then given as much extra time as needed to reach the 170-pound welterweight limit, but failed to do so, quitting after weighing more than two pounds over on his second attempt.

Askren said he met with ONE officials and Santos' coaches and nonetheless agreed to continue with a non-title fight as long as Santos weighed less than 185 pounds at 1:00 p.m. on Friday. That threshold was then upped to 190 pounds upon a complaint from Santos that he "could not control his weight gain," according to Askren.

"So I'm sleeping," Askren said. "I wake up, I got a couple texts from my buddy Gerald, and he's down at breakfast. He's watching ‘Sapo' eat breakfast, multiple plates of breakfast. He's got to make 190 pounds at 1:00 p.m., so we're figuring he's fine. He's stuffing his face at breakfast. So about 45 minutes later, I end up down at breakfast. He's still there. He ended up being at breakfast for 90 minutes. We were all watching him eat. He was drinking juice, the whole thing."

Askren said that later that day he ran into a member of Santos' team in the hotel lobby, who informed him that preparations were being made to take Santos to the hospital.

‘I'm like, what do you mean take him to the hospital?" Askren said. "I just saw him eating breakfast. He was hanging out having breakfast. She says, ‘yeah, he needs to go to the hospital.' I said, does ONE know about this? And she's like, ‘no, we're just taking him.' Whoa, whoa, whoa.

"So I went and found the ONE guys and I said, listen, they're trying to take ‘Sapo' to the hospital. You can't let this happen, you've got to figure something out. So ONE ends up sending a representative to the hospital with ‘Sapo,' where he's trying to repeatedly ask for an IV. And the doctor says, ‘no, you're fine.' So they do kidney tests, blood tests, liver tests, everything. Everything is normal. Everything comes back normal. The doctor says, ‘you're fine, you don't need an IV.' Sends him back."

According to Askren, upon returning back to the hotel, Santos tipped the scales at 3.5 pounds over the fight's new 190-pound limit, and despite being given another chance to cut the extra weight, Santos refused.

The fight was subsequently scrapped, with ONE CEO Victor Cui admonishing Santos for his handling of the situation and publicly wondering whether Santos was "scared" to fight the American.

"By the time they try to find him again, [Santos] was nowhere to be found," Askren said. "And allegedly -- I can't prove this, but allegedly he went back to the hospital to get an IV. That's what I was told. So wow, that was a lot of ups and downs. It's really almost so unbelievable that this guy was trying to pull so many stunts. It just freaking blows my mind, the lack of professionalism and the fact that he was pretty much trying as hard as he could not to make weight. Literally, he gained 22 pounds and he's saying he can't lose three pounds. Meanwhile we saw this scumbag stuffing his face at breakfast. He was literally sitting there eating breakfast for an hour-and-a-half.

REDDzone · Post #99 » by **REDDzone** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:01 am

I haven't been on social media or the forums at all, so IDK the fan reaction, but the limited I HAVE seen has mostly sided with Ben which I'm happy about. Its like really? The dude can't stay within 20 lbs of the contracted weight? Just ridiculous. I've said it several times recently, but I hate it when the guy who did his job gets flamed for his opponent's lack of professionalism (e.g., Woodley/Gastelum...what was the other one?). Again, really glad that Askren stuck to his guns.

REDDzone · Post #100 » by **REDDzone** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:23 pm

Just watched dawg fight to up my already over the top excitement for Kimbo/DADA.