What is your optimal lineup, rotation, and minutes distribution?

[blacksun]

We need to give Booker time out there to see what he really has. His bad defense is partly from rookie jitters IMO. Theres no reason to believe he cant be an adequate defender. And at least from what I've seen, its not as if Weems and Goodwin are killing it defensively.

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How long do you guys think Hornacek will wait til he makes a damn change to the starting lineup and rotations?

Judging by how he usually handles these matters the past 2 years, barring injury, I'd say he waits for 5-10 game losing streak or something close to it ala a stretch where we go 1-7 or something like that.

Even then, Tucker's Hornacek's favorite player so idk if he would do that even then. He always raves about Tucker's veteran "leadership" and his "hustle" even though he fails to realize that Tucker is arguably the least skilled starter in the conference.

He also loves that Tucker will get mad at the players if they screw up so that Hornacek doesn't have to yell at the players cause we all know that he doesn't have the balls to do that.

[bwgood77]

How long do you guys think Hornacek will wait til he makes a damn change to the starting lineup and rotations?

Judging by how he usually handles these matters the past 2 years, barring injury, I'd say he waits for 5-10 game losing streak or something close to it ala a stretch where we go 1-7 or something like that.

Even then, Tucker's Hornacek's favorite player so idk if he would do that even then. He always raves about Tucker's veteran "leadership" and his "hustle" even though he fails to realize that Tucker is arguably the least skilled starter in the conference.

He also loves that Tucker will get mad at the players if they screw up so that Hornacek doesn't have to yell at the players cause we all know that he doesn't have the balls to do that.

I think it depends on two things. When/if we can trade Markieff for a stretch four OR Warren becomes a bit more reliable at the 3. Markieff and Warren don't mesh real well due to high usage and mid range games. If you had a four like Anderson, Warren starts immediately, or if he becomes a 37% 3 pt shooter.

Also, Warren is averaging 2 minutes less per game then Tucker. If he surpasses him in minutes per game, does it matter THAT much to you that he starts? If so, why? I kind of like him in that Manu role since our bench isn't full of scorers.

[JacobHoward]

How long do you guys think Hornacek will wait til he makes a damn change to the starting lineup and rotations?

Judging by how he usually handles these matters the past 2 years, barring injury, I'd say he waits for 5-10 game losing streak or something close to it ala a stretch where we go 1-7 or something like that.

Even then, Tucker's Hornacek's favorite player so idk if he would do that even then. He always raves about Tucker's veteran "leadership" and his "hustle" even though he fails to realize that Tucker is arguably the least skilled starter in the conference.

He also loves that Tucker will get mad at the players if they screw up so that Hornacek doesn't have to yell at the players cause we all know that he doesn't have the balls to do that.

I think it depends on two things. When/if we can trade Markieff for a stretch four OR Warren becomes a bit more reliable at the 3. Markieff and Warren don't mesh real well due to high usage and mid range games. If you had a four like Anderson, Warren starts immediately, or if he becomes a 37% 3 pt shooter.

Also, Warren is averaging 2 minutes less per game then Tucker. If he surpasses him in minutes per game, does it matter THAT much to you that he starts? If so, why? I kind of like him in that Manu role since our bench isn't full of scorers.

To add to that, Bledsoe, Knight and Keef are our best scorers, and I would say Warren is fourth. PJ is out worst scorer, so switching him out of the starting lineup would weaken our bench scoring. If we start Warren, I think we'd also have to start Leuer so Keef could be our go to guy off the bench.


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How long do you guys think Hornacek will wait til he makes a damn change to the starting lineup and rotations?

Judging by how he usually handles these matters the past 2 years, barring injury, I'd say he waits for 5-10 game losing streak or something close to it ala a stretch where we go 1-7 or something like that.

Even then, Tucker's Hornacek's favorite player so idk if he would do that even then. He always raves about Tucker's veteran "leadership" and his "hustle" even though he fails to realize that Tucker is arguably the least skilled starter in the conference.

He also loves that Tucker will get mad at the players if they screw up so that Hornacek doesn't have to yell at the players cause we all know that he doesn't have the balls to do that.

I think it depends on two things. When/if we can trade Markieff for a stretch four OR Warren becomes a bit more reliable at the 3. Markieff and Warren don't mesh real well due to high usage and mid range games. If you had a four like Anderson, Warren starts immediately, or if he becomes a 37% 3 pt shooter.

Also, Warren is averaging 2 minutes less per game then Tucker. If he surpasses him in minutes per game, does it matter THAT much to you that he starts? If so, why? I kind of like him in that Manu role since our bench isn't full of scorers.

It matters not because I think Warren is so great but because Tucker's a huge useless offensive liability. It sucks for Bledsoe and Knight to have to play with basically two players who can't be relied on for any offense in Tucker and Chandler. Hell even Kieff is bad so its basically just Bledsoe and Knight. They need help in the starting lineup so that Bledsoe and Knight have another competent offensive player on the floor with them.

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To add to that, Bledsoe, Knight and Keef are our best scorers, and I would say Warren is fourth. PJ is out worst scorer, so switching him out of the starting lineup would weaken our bench scoring. If we start Warren, I think we'd also have to start Leuer so Keef could be our go to guy off the bench.


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I've been saying that since maybe game 2 or 3 as well.

Kieff needs to play vs backups to get his confidence back up. If we keep him with the starters, its gonna kill his trade value too since he's gonna get owned by other starters. Him going off against other backups could rise his value and teams could think of him as a very good 6th man option or something more.