Fried Chicken and Bonghits: The Al Jefferson Thread 2.0

Post #461 » by **JDR720** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:26 pm

last season

50% TS
19.7 PER
ORB% 5.3
DRB% 25.5
TRB% 15.1
AST% 11.6
STL% 1.2
BLK% 3.3%
TOV% 5.9
Free Throw Rate- .163

this season
51% TS
20 PER
ORB% 7.1
DRB% 22.4%
TRB% 14.3
AST% 9.9
STL% 1
BLK% 2.7
TOV% 4.5
Free Throw Rate- .099

"Tracking Defense"

this season
Overall Defended FG%- 54.5%
less than 6 feet from rim- 75%
less than 10 feet from rim- 63.8%

last season
Overall Defended FG%- 50.7%
less than 6ft- 60.7%
less than 10ft- 52.8%

Mystical Apples · Post #462 » by **Mystical Apples** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:49 pm

The Dallas game skewed Al's personal stats but it didn't change how he negatively impacts the team. The teams interior defense is awful with him on the court. Offensively it's better in the paint when he sits and by a lot.

http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!/advanced?TeamID=1610612766&VsPlayerID=2744

Braggins · Post #463 » by **Braggins** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:58 pm

So, we are almost 10 points worse per/100 on defense with Al on the court...

MasterIchiro · Post #464 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:14 pm

Braggins wrote:So, we are almost 10 points worse per/100 on defense with Al on the court...

Horford is hitting 3's now.

Post #465 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:22 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
Braggins wrote:So, we are almost 10 points worse per/100 on defense with Al on the court...

Horford is hitting 3's now.

He's also currently on a team that (a) is a contender, (b) will have $40M in cap space next summer with only 2 UFAs (Horford and Bazemore), and (c) has his bird rights.

MasterIchiro · Post #466 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:23 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
Braggins wrote:So, we are almost 10 points worse per/100 on defense with Al on the court...

Horford is hitting 3's now.

He's also currently on a team that (a) is a contender, (b) will have $40M in cap space next summer, and (c) has his bird rights.

So they're keeping him, depressing. Any other free agent centers?

Post #467 » by **Diop** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:27 pm

Byron Mullens?

Post #468 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:28 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:So they're keeping him, depressing. Any other free agent centers?

UFAs: Noah, Whiteside, Hibbert, Mozgov, Speights, Nene, Dwight (he has a player option), Zaza, Hill, Mahinmi
RFAs: Drummond, Leonard, Motiejunas, TZeller, Ezeli, Miles Plumlee

MasterIchiro · Post #469 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:28 pm

Sachmo wrote:Byron Mullens?

Pick another.

Post #470 » by **JDR720** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:29 pm

some notable free agent centers next season that aren't restricted

-Roy Hibbert
-Joakim Noah
-Whiteside
-Mozgov
-Horford

our best chance is probably Whiteside, pitch the hometown team thing. the others are either washed up or not going anywhere.

Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #471 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:29 pm

This is just eyeball stuff, but the ball stops moving way too much when it hits Al. His offense is built around ticks and pump-fakes and such ... all stuff that takes time to do. I honestly don't think that he will be able to function well in a fast paced ball-moving offense. Sample size is small, but more than any other time since he's been here I think that Al's fit is poor for what the team is trying to do.

MasterIchiro · Post #472 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:31 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:So they're keeping him, depressing. Any other free agent centers?

UFAs: Noah, Whiteside, Hibbert, Mozgov, Speights, Nene, Dwight (he has a player option), Zaza, Hill, Mahinmi
RFAs: Drummond, Leonard, Motiejunas, TZeller, Ezeli, Miles Plumlee

Looks like we're screwed at the C position.

Post #473 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:32 pm

Cody would be fine as a starting C.

Post #474 » by **Diop** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:32 pm

Hibbert, Mozgov, Noah, Whiteside.

Pau Gasol has a player option, he would be my top choice

Post #475 » by **Diop** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:35 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:So they're keeping him, depressing. Any other free agent centers?

UFAs: Noah, Whiteside, Hibbert, Mozgov, Speights, Nene, Dwight (he has a player option), Zaza, Hill, Mahinmi
RFAs: Drummond, Leonard, Motiejunas, TZeller, Ezeli, Miles Plumlee

Looks like we're screwed at the C position.

Noah could be interesting, get him to play limited minutes as a veteran starter, he would be happy to play his role.

even in limited minutes he is still a good passer, rebounder

MasterIchiro · Post #476 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:37 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Cody would be fine as a starting C.

Not if players like Mugsy Bogues keep sending him on his ass.

Post #477 » by **Diop** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:39 pm

a stronger Frank would be interesting. He seems to have good instincts on defence

MasterIchiro · Post #478 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:41 pm

Sachmo wrote:a stronger Frank would be interesting. He seems to have good instincts on defence

Maybe Noah as a placeholder for Frank.

Post #479 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:47 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Cody would be fine as a starting C.

Not if players like Mugsy Bogues keep sending him on his ass.

Just to be clear - are you unaware of the stats generally supporting Zeller's impressive defense, or are you just choosing to ignore them?

MasterIchiro · Post #480 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:50 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Cody would be fine as a starting C.

Not if players like Mugsy Bogues keep sending him on his ass.

Just to be clear - are you unaware of the stats generally supporting Zeller's impressive defense, or are you just choosing to ignore them?

He's playing against backups mostly.