Knicks-Cavs Official PG Thread

AmazingJason · Post #221 » by **AmazingJason** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:51 am

I have another idea besides having Fisher wearing an earpiece and having Phil coach since that might be construed as cheating.

Fire Watson and let IBM's Watson be our damn head coach until Walton or Lue is free.

Dirkbaka · Post #222 » by **Dirkbaka** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:53 am

Admunson plus Thomas is so dumb at the end. When you put a net negative on offense like these two are you need to make sure their defense is such a net positive that it overrides their offense.

Sorta like Prime Amare who was awful at defense but his offense was so elite it didn't matter. Or big ben on defense with no O.

But these two are third stringers. And he keeps making the same mistake over and over and over again.

He keeps putting two bigs who should not be put togther in. Last time it was O'Quinn and Admunson and this time Thomas/Admunson.

We won't win with him.

Dirkbaka · Post #223 » by **Dirkbaka** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:55 am

Another thing about Fisher he doesn't understand that our team is not capable of stopping the bleeding without a timeout. He is trying to do what Phil use to do "let them figure it out".

Guess what Fisher, we dont' have prime Kobe/Shaq/MJ. We have players that need a time out to figure it out.

I count 3 games so far we should have won if we had a decent coach. This/bucks/cats.

nykfan42 · Post #224 » by **nykfan42** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:55 am

Was Dellavadova guarding Afflalo most of the 4th? I didn't notice until the end of the game when he took advantage of the mismatch those 2 times.

Hopefully they learn from this. They're capable of beating the good teams as they could have won both against Cleveland. It's a matter of execution and confidence in the 4th quarter. You simply can't have Thomas and Amundsen out there in crunch time when you need to score. They didn't get a FG til 6 min left in the 4th. They've been competitive but at some point you gotta turn games like tonight into wins and build off of that. That's what good teams do and if you're preaching about building a foundation, it starts there.

MaseInYourFace · Post #225 » by **MaseInYourFace** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:56 am

I don't like Fishers coaching that much but the reason you don't see me continually whine about him is that I don't see him going anywhere for foreseeable future so I feel it's a big waste of energy to dwell on it.

ibraheim718 · Post #226 » by **ibraheim718** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:56 am

There were 4 of 5 guys in the +/- Zinger, Melo, Galloway, and Grant.. find a way to play them together Fish. The fifth was Lou.

MaseInYourFace · Post #227 » by **MaseInYourFace** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:57 am

Dirkbaka wrote:
moocow007 wrote:The Knicks need someone that can create their own shot and get to the basket in those situations. They have none.

The best we have is Grant to penetrate. But he is glued to the bench.

Until Grant develops consistency with his J he's easy to defend in the 4th

Post #228 » by **duetta** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:57 am

Anthony was spectacular in the first half, we needed to find some way to get him going again in the 2nd.

I think Fisher needs to spend more time with Matt Barnes wife, ideally in California. I wish someone would pay me $25 million to do something that I had never done before...

Dirkbaka · Post #229 » by **Dirkbaka** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:58 am

ibraheim718 wrote:There were 4 of 5 guys in the +/- Zinger, Melo, Galloway, and Grant.. find a way to play them together Fish. The fifth was Lou.

This should be our finishing 4 and then you put Admunson or O'quinn as needed. You can even insert Afflalo once he gets his legs under him if you want to go small or instead of gallo.

BUT YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE THOMAS/CALDERON IN. EVER.

AmazingJason · Post #230 » by **AmazingJason** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:59 am

Would the Lakers give us a 2nd rounder for D-Fish? He can't be worse than Byron Scott

Dirkbaka · Post #231 » by **Dirkbaka** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:59 am

MaseInYourFace wrote:
Dirkbaka wrote:
moocow007 wrote:The Knicks need someone that can create their own shot and get to the basket in those situations. They have none.

The best we have is Grant to penetrate. But he is glued to the bench.

Until Grant develops consistency with his J he's easy to defend in the 4th

But we don't know that because he never plays in the 4th. Calderon can't break down the defense and spends 10 secs just trying to set up the offense. That killed us tonight.

Post #232 » by **dakomish23** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:00 am

There is zero reason Calderon should be in any close game with 8 mins to go. 20. That should be the lead before this guy sees significant 4th quarter time.

We're done with an 1/8th of the season. Enough is enough. You have to starts winning games before injuries hit and you're really screwed.

Post #233 » by **mpharris36** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:00 am

just came in from a night out and recorded the game and watched it.

The officials absolutely jobbed us! I mean that KP offensive rebound non call which led to a LeBron and 1 cost us the game. I mean this is a complete joke! I am getting sick and tired by getting the short end of the stick by officials. We deserved that game.

Post #234 » by **dakomish23** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:02 am

Dirkbaka wrote:
MaseInYourFace wrote:
Dirkbaka wrote:The best we have is Grant to penetrate. But he is glued to the bench.

Until Grant develops consistency with his J he's easy to defend in the 4th

But we don't know that because he never plays in the 4th. Calderon can't break down the defense and spends 10 secs just trying to set up the offense. That killed us tonight.

He needs all 8 seconds to get the ball passed half court. Frolicking with the ball like he's in the sound of music as possessions die before they even begin.

msanchez2725 · Post #235 » by **msanchez2725** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:02 am

Grant needs to be seeing 30+ mins a game at PG. Calderon is finished. It's laughable at this point. How can Fisher not see this?

waya · Post #236 » by **waya** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:02 am

mpharris36 wrote:just came in from a night out and recorded the game and watched it.

The officials absolutely jobbed us! I mean that KP offensive rebound non call which led to a LeBron and 1 cost us the game. I mean this is a complete joke! I am getting sick and tired by getting the short end of the stick by officials. We deserved that game.

It's be nice to get some home cooking for once this season.

Clyde_Style · Post #237 » by **Clyde_Style** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:04 am

MaseInYourFace wrote:I don't like Fishers coaching that much but the reason you don't see me continually whine about him is that I don't see him going anywhere for foreseeable future so I feel it's a big waste of energy to dwell on it.

Weak. You gotta believe!

Drun53 · Post #238 » by **Drun53** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:06 am

Let's not forget that the Knicks won the Laker game after Fisher got ejected.

nykfan42 · Post #239 » by **nykfan42** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:06 am

The first 18 games are brutal we all know that and it's only just begun. Gotta keep fighting and must win games at home. They have good chemistry but Fisher has to find a better group to close out games. I like Melo, Gallo, Afflalo and KP and RoLo. They didn't lose bc of their defense. Gotta score.

Post #240 » by **mpharris36** » Sat Nov 14, 2015 4:06 am

waya wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:just came in from a night out and recorded the game and watched it.

The officials absolutely jobbed us! I mean that KP offensive rebound non call which led to a LeBron and 1 cost us the game. I mean this is a complete joke! I am getting sick and tired by getting the short end of the stick by officials. We deserved that game.

It's be nice to get some home cooking for once this season.

we are absolutely getting jobbed at home. We are in NY we should get the benefit of the calls....we already don't get it on the road. Horrible officiating won the cavs the game plain and simple.