Don't Be Hurtin' Lin - The Jeremy Lin Thread 2

[spaceballer]

So, did it only take 9 games for the Lin fans to completely turn on another franchise and start asking for Lin to demand a trade?

I'm happy that Lin and the Hornets aren't as fickle as Lin's fans.

Only place I've seen any mention of a trade are clickbait articles. Haven't seen anyone seriously asking for a trade.

[steady]

They have only played nine games. We've only seen Lin's minutes drop in the last 5 or 6 games. It's not ideal but it's also not like he has not gotten to show what he can do. Clifford has to balance a lot of competing interests, and figure out a lot of different issues right now, relating to player combinations and chemistry. Let's give him some time.

And ...You know as much as some of us wish Lin could get more minutes, you know who is having a really tough year? Hairston who was not extended. Jefferson who doesn't fit in the system and has sat at the close of several games now - with small chance of things suddenly turning a corner. Even Kemba who is trying to figure out his way in the new system. Roberts who is not getting any minutes at all.

Lin's doing fine. His teammates like him; he likes them. He plays well in the style of basketball the Hornets are playing. He is getting high usage when he is on the court. He is playing well and people around the league are noticing.

He made the right choice -

[Klazart]

So, did it only take 9 games for the Lin fans to completely turn on another franchise and start asking for Lin to demand a trade?

I'm happy that Lin and the Hornets aren't as fickle as Lin's fans.

Lin fans have tried to be patient for the last three years. We see Lin consistently improve as a player and yet his opportunities seem to decrease. There is a huge built up frustration, and all we want is to see Lin get a chance. I think this season is a good example. Kemba is the starting PG. But how many games has he played WELL in? Yet he gets 35 mins on a bad day. Lin has to play astoundingly well to get 21 minutes? It's hard to understand. It seems like some weird vicious cycle. You need minutes to earn trust but you need trust to earn minutes.

I don't want to talk about racism, but there seems to be this inbuilt prejudice in American sporting systems that seem to predetermine opportunity. Which is ironically the complete opposite of the so called ideal of the American Dream. It looks like sport echoes the reality for most Americans.

I'm not sure what more Lin can do. He took a massive pay cut, and on his best days gets 21 minutes? This is a guy who can score 25-40 points on any given night, efficiently, if given the keys. I believe that and so do most Lin fans. He did this every time he got a chance to in Houston with Harden out. And got no reward for it. Personally, I can't really be bothered any more. It is what it is. Hope it works out for Lin, if not, oh well. For me as a sports fan from Ireland, the whole Lin situation has left a very bad taste in the mouth of the NBA and the inbuilt prejudices there and among its fans.

[tamao]

think the main reason Lin wont get a lot of minutes unless there is a injury is Hornets dun expect him to be around next year when there is lot of money to be thrown around in the FA. so they decided to live n die with Lamb who just signed an extension.

[Klazart]

I'm sure Lin can contribute a lot more than PJ Hairston. I'm not expecting Lin to get 30+ minutes realistically at this stage. But he should be getting 25+ regularly. And those minutes should come from PJ.

[steady]

So, did it only take 9 games for the Lin fans to completely turn on another franchise and start asking for Lin to demand a trade?

I'm happy that Lin and the Hornets aren't as fickle as Lin's fans.

Lin fans have tried to be patient for the last three years. We see Lin consistently improve as a player and yet his opportunities seem to decrease. There is a huge built up frustration, and all we want is to see Lin get a chance. I think this season is a good example. Kemba is the starting PG. But how many games has he played WELL in? Yet he gets 35 mins on a bad day. Lin has to play astoundingly well to get 21 minutes? It's hard to understand. It seems like some weird vicious cycle. You need minutes to earn trust but you need trust to earn minutes.

I don't want to talk about racism, but there seems to be this inbuilt prejudice in American sporting systems that seem to predetermine opportunity. Which is ironically the complete opposite of the so called ideal of the American Dream. It looks like sport echoes the reality for most Americans.

I'm not sure what more Lin can do. He took a massive pay cut, and on his best days gets 21 minutes? This is a guy who can score 25-40 points on any given night, efficiently, if given the keys. I believe that and so do most Lin fans. He did this every time he got a chance to in Houston with Harden out. And got no reward for it. Personally, I can't really be bothered any more. It is what it is. Hope it works out for Lin, if not, oh well. For me as a sports fan from Ireland, the whole Lin situation has left a very bad taste in the mouth of the NBA and the inbuilt prejudices there and among its fans.

Why is Tyler Zeller who started for Celtics last year only getting a few minutes now? Is that fair? Professional sports is not the place to look for fairness - it's often timing and chance and luck. If anything Lin has had an extraordinary amount of good fortune in his career -- starting with Linsanity and continuing with Rockets where he at least got to play in system suited to his skills and with great players

Why the feeling that Lin is entitled to something or the team is doing him wrong. Lin has to earn it just as any new player on a team would.

[steady]

I'm sure Lin can contribute a lot more than PJ Hairston. I'm not expecting Lin to get 30+ minutes realistically at this stage. But he should be getting 25+ regularly. And those minutes should come from PJ.

PJ is playing because Al's defense is bad; they don't want to exhaust Batum by asking him to cover the other team's best scorer for entire game; and PJ is a better defender at this point than either Lin or Lamb.

Not saying this will always be the right call - just saying there are a lot of factors being balanced.

[renmei]

Man I feel kinda bad for Ed Davis wasting his life away with the Blazers, if the Hornets could snag him for the bench.. him and Lin are a freakish PnR duo.

[lin is ok]

see? with lin being in this sort of rotation. When the team is kicking in all cylinders. and with him even playing well. he is an after thought. Kind of sucks for him. I guess it's another day for him to rest

[rayfantastic]

Heh. Maybe Lin will finally have some minutes today. The garbage ones. He better pad his stats hard.

[lin is ok]

Man I feel kinda bad for Ed Davis wasting his life away with the Blazers, if the Hornets could snag him for the bench.. him and Lin are a freakish PnR duo.

Ed Davis is another roll man who got his nice contract playing with Lin.

[lin is ok]

Heh. Maybe Lin will finally have some minutes today. The garbage ones. He better pad his stats hard.

nah they will pull roberts out.

[lin is ok]

So, did it only take 9 games for the Lin fans to completely turn on another franchise and start asking for Lin to demand a trade?

I'm happy that Lin and the Hornets aren't as fickle as Lin's fans.

Lin fans have tried to be patient for the last three years. We see Lin consistently improve as a player and yet his opportunities seem to decrease. There is a huge built up frustration, and all we want is to see Lin get a chance. I think this season is a good example. Kemba is the starting PG. But how many games has he played WELL in? Yet he gets 35 mins on a bad day. Lin has to play astoundingly well to get 21 minutes? It's hard to understand. It seems like some weird vicious cycle. You need minutes to earn trust but you need trust to earn minutes.

I don't want to talk about racism, but there seems to be this inbuilt prejudice in American sporting systems that seem to predetermine opportunity. Which is ironically the complete opposite of the so called ideal of the American Dream. It looks like sport echoes the reality for most Americans.

I'm not sure what more Lin can do. He took a massive pay cut, and on his best days gets 21 minutes? This is a guy who can score 25-40 points on any given night, efficiently, if given the keys. I believe that and so do most Lin fans. He did this every time he got a chance to in Houston with Harden out. And got no reward for it. Personally, I can't really be bothered any more. It is what it is. Hope it works out for Lin, if not, oh well. For me as a sports fan from Ireland, the whole Lin situation has left a very bad taste in the mouth of the NBA and the inbuilt prejudices there and among its fans.

Why is Tyler Zeller who started for Celtics last year only getting a few minutes now? Is that fair? Professional sports is not the place to look for fairness - it's often timing and chance and luck. If anything Lin has had an extraordinary amount of good fortune in his career -- starting with Linsanity and continuing with Rockets where he at least got to play in system suited to his skills and with great players

Why the feeling that Lin is entitled to something or the team is doing him wrong. Lin has to earn it just as any new player on a team would.

LOL i got to state it again and again . he took a huge pay cut.

[LamarMatic7]

This is a guy who can score 25-40 points on any given night, efficiently, if given the keys. I believe that and so do most Lin fans. He did this every time he got a chance to in Houston with Harden out.

Since I like things being statistically and factually correct, I looked this up. Sorry, my friend, but seems like a bit of revisionist history.

The amount of points Lin scored when Harden didn't play: 38, 14, 15, 19, 34, 19, 14, 0 (4 mins played), 20, 18, 18.

And, hey, I don't mean this in a bad way and I understand that memories can get embellished with time, especially when Lin did have that awesome game at San Antonio while Harden was out.

[Appwrangler]

So, did it only take 9 games for the Lin fans to completely turn on another franchise and start asking for Lin to demand a trade?

I'm happy that Lin and the Hornets aren't as fickle as Lin's fans.

There are many "Lin fans". Most post simply in the dedicated Lin forums; those more interested in basketball post sensibly in team forums. That small subset calling for trades or for Lin to start don't represent a large percentage of "Lin fans".

[Vae Victus]

Lin played the 2nd half like he didn't give a damn. This is a bad sign, even during the terrible tank year with the Lakers he still went hard all out every second he was in. Hell during alot of garbage blowout time (which there was alot that year, eesh), he still went hard and kinda shamelessly padded his stats a bit against scrub units... now i dunno whats going on.

Today with the way the team was shooting i was expecting Lin to have a bunch of assists from drive and kicks, instead he was just chucking stupid shots and dribbling aimlessly.

[lin is ok]

ok i take everything back lin blew it this game . awful.

[13th Man]

I got nothing for Lin tonight, hopefully we can hang on for the W.

[Vae Victus]

Perhaps Lin gets unfocused when his team is up and there's no sense of urgency? With the Lakers last year them being up big can be counted on 1 hand practically so Lin didnt have much opportunity to be complacent. Kinda shocked Clifford put Lin back in for Lamb, but he's definitely stepped up his play. Zeroing in on defense and just making that nice behind the back pass to Al Jeff.

[13th Man]

Lin needs to be more consistent, he has a couple of good games then follows up with a couple of duds. He can't be playing like this if he wants more minutes, a bit surprised that Clifford put him back in there late. We had a really nice lead and his **** play almost let them back. I'm glad we got the W despite Lin's play tonight.