OT: Terrorist attacks in Paris

[MJPipRose]

No one cares what the Prophet or people alive 1000 years ago did.

Islam undeniably contains aspects of radicalism in modern times.

I mentioned that aspect because it is a major part of a Muslim belief. A true Muslim follows Muhammad's example. And these people who call themselves Islamic are not following his example. Just like Christians are to follow the example of Jesus, or Hindus to follow the example of Krishna, Jews to follow the example of Moses, only in Islam it is emphasized allot more and are part of basic teachings.

Thank you for your opinion but unfortunately it is not an accurate one.There are many North American scholars you can turn to that will support my argument here.

Religion is not determined by scholars with their nose in dusty books.

It's determined by the people who follow it.

Well if your going by that opinion, then take a look at the 1.7 billion muslims of the world who don't involve themselves in terrorism and live peaceful lives= those are the people who follow it. As I said earlier, these groups make up not even 2% of the Muslim population. I appreciate your opinion.

[TheSuzerain]

I mentioned that aspect because it is a major part of a Muslim belief. A true Muslim follows Muhammad's example. And these people who call themselves Islamic are not following his example. Just like Christians are to follow the example of Jesus, or Hindus to follow the example of Krishna, Jews to follow the example of Moses, only in Islam it is emphasized allot more and are part of basic teachings.

Thank you for your opinion but unfortunately it is not an accurate one.There are many North American scholars you can turn to that will support my argument here.

Religion is not determined by scholars with their nose in dusty books.

It's determined by the people who follow it.

Well if your going by that opinion, then take a look at the 1.7 billion muslims of the world who don't involve themselves in terrorism and live peaceful lives= those are the people who follow it. As I said earlier, these groups make up not even 2% of the Muslim population. I appreciate your opinion.

I agree with that. It's an incredibly small % carrying out these acts.

[WIN]

As a Christian, I think Christianity has just as many aspects of radicalism as Islam as well. True faith and belief in a religion is in fact radical.

But, this isn't a war of religions, it's a war where religions are used as weapons by those that don't have a religion. Those that buy into the propaganda of the "my religion vs. yours" mentality are used as the missiles.

[musiqsoulchild]

^ I've purposely stayed out of this discussion, but feel the need to weigh in. I'm Muslim by birth, but atheist by practice. Islam will always be part of my DNA, because that's how I was raised. Calling ISIS Muslims is a joke. They're akin to Islam as the KKK is to Christianity. They are an evil cult who are using the idea of religion to brainwash the weak.

I feel like any reasonable person should be able to see the difference between ISIS and normal Muslim people.

Homo, I am going to use your post as a jumping off point for mine. Please do not be insulted.

When your religion is under attack by internal disease the solution has to come from within.

For example take the issue of Catholic Church and pedophilia. Unless the solution comes from within the church, people are not going to be satisfied with assurances etc.

Or in India where now the religious right has found a voice with Modi becoming the prime minister. Unless he speaks up about it in a public way and attacks the internal issue - the issue won't go away.

I am using various religions to make a point - that people WANT to help their neighbors, but only if they see that their neighbors are doing something about the issues in their house first.

So far, all we are seeing is that our poor neighbors are fleeing their homes. We can help them BUT the correct fix is for our neighbors to try and fix their homes first AND ask us for help in doing so. We can't go in unilaterally and "help" - that has backfired spectacularly in almost all cases of intervention.

[HomoSapien]

^ I've purposely stayed out of this discussion, but feel the need to weigh in. I'm Muslim by birth, but atheist by practice. Islam will always be part of my DNA, because that's how I was raised. Calling ISIS Muslims is a joke. They're akin to Islam as the KKK is to Christianity. They are an evil cult who are using the idea of religion to brainwash the weak.

I feel like any reasonable person should be able to see the difference between ISIS and normal Muslim people.

Homo, I am going to use your post as a jumping off point for mine. Please do not be insulted.

When your religion is under attack by internal disease the solution has to come from within.

For example take the issue of Catholic Church and pedophilia. Unless the solution comes from within the church, people are not going to be satisfied with assurances etc.

Or in India where now the religious right has found a voice with Modi becoming the prime minister. Unless he speaks up about it in a public way and attacks the internal issue - the issue won't go away.

I am using various religions to make a point - that people WANT to help their neighbors, but only if they see that their neighbors are doing something about the issues in their house first.

So far, all we are seeing is that our poor neighbors are fleeing their homes. We can help them BUT the correct fix is for our neighbors to try and fix their homes first AND ask us for help in doing so. We can't go in unilaterally and "help" - that has backfired spectacularly in almost all cases of intervention.

I've heard this sort of thing before, and I honestly never know how to respond. How exactly are Muslims supposed to internally try to fix ISIS, and organization so dangerous that it's being nuked by international powers?

It's wayyyy too big of a problem for Muslims to internally fix. Molestation is a big deal, but it pales in comparison to murder. I would love to see Muslims in general adopt a more liberal view point, but to be perfectly honest, almost all the Muslim people I've grown up around and met in college, and after drink, have sex before marriage, date, etc. They're normal people.

[HomoSapien]

No one cares what the Prophet or people alive 1000 years ago did.

Islam undeniably contains aspects of radicalism in modern times.

I mentioned that aspect because it is a major part of a Muslim belief. A true Muslim follows Muhammad's example. And these people who call themselves Islamic are not following his example. Just like Christians are to follow the example of Jesus, or Hindus to follow the example of Krishna, Jews to follow the example of Moses, only in Islam it is emphasized allot more and are part of basic teachings.

Thank you for your opinion but unfortunately it is not an accurate one.There are many North American scholars you can turn to that will support my argument here.

Religion is not determined by scholars with their nose in dusty books.

It's determined by the people who follow it.

I don't agree with this statement, or fully understand it. If it's determined by the people, then why is a minority radical group being used to define it instead of the vast majority of peaceful Muslims around the world?

Secondly, if I suddenly decided to make balloon animals and recruited thousands of people to make balloon animals in the name of Christianity, Christianity wouldn't spontaneously become a religion about balloon animals - because that's not what Christianity is. Similarly, Islam isn't a religion about beheadings, because of a dangerous radical group of psychopaths.

[WorldChamp]

Religion is not determined by scholars with their nose in dusty books.

It's determined by the people who follow it.

Well if your going by that opinion, then take a look at the 1.7 billion muslims of the world who don't involve themselves in terrorism and live peaceful lives= those are the people who follow it. As I said earlier, these groups make up not even 2% of the Muslim population. I appreciate your opinion.

I agree with that. It's an incredibly small % carrying out these acts.

That percentage works out to 34 Millions wackos.

[TheSuzerain]

I mentioned that aspect because it is a major part of a Muslim belief. A true Muslim follows Muhammad's example. And these people who call themselves Islamic are not following his example. Just like Christians are to follow the example of Jesus, or Hindus to follow the example of Krishna, Jews to follow the example of Moses, only in Islam it is emphasized allot more and are part of basic teachings.

Thank you for your opinion but unfortunately it is not an accurate one.There are many North American scholars you can turn to that will support my argument here.

Religion is not determined by scholars with their nose in dusty books.

It's determined by the people who follow it.

I don't agree with this statement, or fully understand it. If it's determined by the people, then why is a minority radical group being used to define it instead of the vast majority of peaceful Muslims around the world?

Secondly, if I suddenly decided to make balloon animals and recruited thousands of people to make balloon animals in the name of Christianity, Christianity wouldn't spontaneously become a religion about balloon animals - because that's not what Christianity is. Similarly, Islam isn't a religion about beheadings, because of a dangerous radical group of psychopaths.

The radical group doesn't define Islam. The jihadis are also no less Islamic than anybody else claiming to be Islamic.

And I'd argue that if you could recruit thousands of people to do anything in the name of Christianity, then it could be described as a Christian endeavor.

[musiqsoulchild]

^ I've purposely stayed out of this discussion, but feel the need to weigh in. I'm Muslim by birth, but atheist by practice. Islam will always be part of my DNA, because that's how I was raised. Calling ISIS Muslims is a joke. They're akin to Islam as the KKK is to Christianity. They are an evil cult who are using the idea of religion to brainwash the weak.

I feel like any reasonable person should be able to see the difference between ISIS and normal Muslim people.

Homo, I am going to use your post as a jumping off point for mine. Please do not be insulted.

When your religion is under attack by internal disease the solution has to come from within.

For example take the issue of Catholic Church and pedophilia. Unless the solution comes from within the church, people are not going to be satisfied with assurances etc.

Or in India where now the religious right has found a voice with Modi becoming the prime minister. Unless he speaks up about it in a public way and attacks the internal issue - the issue won't go away.

I am using various religions to make a point - that people WANT to help their neighbors, but only if they see that their neighbors are doing something about the issues in their house first.

So far, all we are seeing is that our poor neighbors are fleeing their homes. We can help them BUT the correct fix is for our neighbors to try and fix their homes first AND ask us for help in doing so. We can't go in unilaterally and "help" - that has backfired spectacularly in almost all cases of intervention.

I've heard this sort of thing before, and I honestly never know how to respond. How exactly are Muslims supposed to internally try to fix ISIS, and organization so dangerous that it's being nuked by international powers?

It's wayyyy too big of a problem for Muslims to internally fix. Molestation is a big deal, but it pales in comparison to murder. I would love to see Muslims in general adopt a more liberal view point, but to be perfectly honest, almost all the Muslim people I've grown up around and met in college, and after drink, have sex before marriage, date, etc. They're normal people.

For example, the religious figures in Islam - Mullah's, Ayotollah, and the academics called Maulanas- they should vociferously seek the media and speak up about this sort of activity.

If there is any talk that is remotely bordering on extremism, the elders in the mosque should quickly denounce it and report it tip the police.

It happens a lot - lots of law abiding Muslims do the right thing every day. But, lots of law abiding Muslims also don't speak up enough and openly vilify and attack ISIS.

Dr. Zakir Naik spends WAY more time talking about Islam and its greatness than he does in denouncing terrorism. There is a time and a place for talking up your beliefs and your religion - but now is the time to correct the disorder that is brewing within.

There should be NO distinction between GOOD terrorism and BAD terrorism. Just yesterday, I took a cab ride and was chatting up the cabbie - a fellow South Asian from Pakistan. We talked cricket and politics .... and the conversation went to France.

He almost let out a half smile about how he thought it was such a well planned attack when I quickly shut that shyt up. That's what needs to happen - the mainstream Muslim needs to speak up when the irrational Muslim explains away violence in the Muslim world and tries to spin a story of fidayeen, jihad, jannat, mujahideen, kafir etc.

[HomoSapien]

Homo, I am going to use your post as a jumping off point for mine. Please do not be insulted.

When your religion is under attack by internal disease the solution has to come from within.

For example take the issue of Catholic Church and pedophilia. Unless the solution comes from within the church, people are not going to be satisfied with assurances etc.

Or in India where now the religious right has found a voice with Modi becoming the prime minister. Unless he speaks up about it in a public way and attacks the internal issue - the issue won't go away.

I am using various religions to make a point - that people WANT to help their neighbors, but only if they see that their neighbors are doing something about the issues in their house first.

So far, all we are seeing is that our poor neighbors are fleeing their homes. We can help them BUT the correct fix is for our neighbors to try and fix their homes first AND ask us for help in doing so. We can't go in unilaterally and "help" - that has backfired spectacularly in almost all cases of intervention.

I've heard this sort of thing before, and I honestly never know how to respond. How exactly are Muslims supposed to internally try to fix ISIS, and organization so dangerous that it's being nuked by international powers?

It's wayyyy too big of a problem for Muslims to internally fix. Molestation is a big deal, but it pales in comparison to murder. I would love to see Muslims in general adopt a more liberal view point, but to be perfectly honest, almost all the Muslim people I've grown up around and met in college, and after drink, have sex before marriage, date, etc. They're normal people.

For example, the religious figures in Islam - Mullah's, Ayotollah, and the academics called Maulanas- they should vociferously seek the media and speak up about this sort of activity.

If there is any talk that is remotely bordering on extremism, the elders in the mosque should quickly denounce it and report it tip the police.

It happens a lot - lots of law abiding Muslims do the right thing every day. But, lots of law abiding Muslims also don't speak up enough and openly vilify and attack ISIS.

Dr. Zakir Naik spends WAY more time talking about Islam and its greatness than he does in denouncing terrorism. There is a time and a place for talking up your beliefs and your religion - but now is the time to correct the disorder that is brewing within.

There should be NO distinction between GOOD terrorism and BAD terrorism. Just yesterday, I took a cab ride and was chatting up the cabbie - a fellow South Asian from Pakistan. We talked cricket and politics .... and the conversation went to France.

He almost let out a half smile about how he thought it was such a well planned attack when I quickly shut that shyt up. That's what needs to happen - the mainstream Muslim needs to speak up when the irrational Muslim explains away violence in the Muslim world and tries to spin a story of fidayeen, jihad, jannat, mujahideen, kafir etc.

Truthfully, I think Muslims are afraid. These guys target people who speak up.

[RebuildaBulls]

No offense, but how I learned that terror and submission(Islam means submission btw) are part of Islam was straight from the Quran and Hadiths, media is the last place I'd go to learn about something. I have hundreds of verses but I won't post them because some are too explicit and dont want to incite hate of any kind

[musiqsoulchild]

I've heard this sort of thing before, and I honestly never know how to respond. How exactly are Muslims supposed to internally try to fix ISIS, and organization so dangerous that it's being nuked by international powers?

It's wayyyy too big of a problem for Muslims to internally fix. Molestation is a big deal, but it pales in comparison to murder. I would love to see Muslims in general adopt a more liberal view point, but to be perfectly honest, almost all the Muslim people I've grown up around and met in college, and after drink, have sex before marriage, date, etc. They're normal people.

For example, the religious figures in Islam - Mullah's, Ayotollah, and the academics called Maulanas- they should vociferously seek the media and speak up about this sort of activity.

If there is any talk that is remotely bordering on extremism, the elders in the mosque should quickly denounce it and report it tip the police.

It happens a lot - lots of law abiding Muslims do the right thing every day. But, lots of law abiding Muslims also don't speak up enough and openly vilify and attack ISIS.

Dr. Zakir Naik spends WAY more time talking about Islam and its greatness than he does in denouncing terrorism. There is a time and a place for talking up your beliefs and your religion - but now is the time to correct the disorder that is brewing within.

There should be NO distinction between GOOD terrorism and BAD terrorism. Just yesterday, I took a cab ride and was chatting up the cabbie - a fellow South Asian from Pakistan. We talked cricket and politics .... and the conversation went to France.

He almost let out a half smile about how he thought it was such a well planned attack when I quickly shut that shyt up. That's what needs to happen - the mainstream Muslim needs to speak up when the irrational Muslim explains away violence in the Muslim world and tries to spin a story of fidayeen, jihad, jannat, mujahideen, kafir etc.

Truthfully, I think Muslims are afraid. These guys target people who speak up.

Amen.

That's where courage comes from.

It's VERY tough to overcome the fear especially when you have family.

But, if that fear becomes resistance, then it's game over for ISIS.

[RebuildaBulls]

Religion is not determined by scholars with their nose in dusty books.

It's determined by the people who follow it.

I don't agree with this statement, or fully understand it. If it's determined by the people, then why is a minority radical group being used to define it instead of the vast majority of peaceful Muslims around the world?

Secondly, if I suddenly decided to make balloon animals and recruited thousands of people to make balloon animals in the name of Christianity, Christianity wouldn't spontaneously become a religion about balloon animals - because that's not what Christianity is. Similarly, Islam isn't a religion about beheadings, because of a dangerous radical group of psychopaths.

The radical group doesn't define Islam. The jihadis are also no less Islamic than anybody else claiming to be Islamic.

And I'd argue that if you could recruit thousands of people to do anything in the name of Christianity, then it could be described as a Christian endeavor.

Difference is:
Jesus never commanded Christians to kill non-believers he told them to love your enemy, so if a Christian killed someone in the name of Jesus than he just rejected Jesus teachings

If a Muslim killed a non-believer, according to the books he supposed to go to paradise.

[RebuildaBulls]

My advice is before you judge a religion make sure to read the books, don't listen to the media or how someone else interprets it. The Quran is supposed to be the direct word of Allah for Muslims, it not supposed to be changed. Their Quran is the word of God just like Jesus is the word of God to Christians.
I read it, studied it and thought about changing but the verses of violence against infidels and other worse, contradicting and disgusting verses plus the scary Hadiths turned me away.
And one line soldified me to stay Christian, Mohammed told christians to judge him by what is said in the Scripture and according to our scripture he is the description of the anti-christ.

No offense to muslims, I don't agree with their religion but don't I hate them. I have a bunch of Muslim friends who are not jihadists and I know more of their religion than they do lol

[MJPipRose]

I've heard this sort of thing before, and I honestly never know how to respond. How exactly are Muslims supposed to internally try to fix ISIS, and organization so dangerous that it's being nuked by international powers?

It's wayyyy too big of a problem for Muslims to internally fix. Molestation is a big deal, but it pales in comparison to murder. I would love to see Muslims in general adopt a more liberal view point, but to be perfectly honest, almost all the Muslim people I've grown up around and met in college, and after drink, have sex before marriage, date, etc. They're normal people.

For example, the religious figures in Islam - Mullah's, Ayotollah, and the academics called Maulanas- they should vociferously seek the media and speak up about this sort of activity.

If there is any talk that is remotely bordering on extremism, the elders in the mosque should quickly denounce it and report it tip the police.

It happens a lot - lots of law abiding Muslims do the right thing every day. But, lots of law abiding Muslims also don't speak up enough and openly vilify and attack ISIS.

Dr. Zakir Naik spends WAY more time talking about Islam and its greatness than he does in denouncing terrorism. There is a time and a place for talking up your beliefs and your religion - but now is the time to correct the disorder that is brewing within.

There should be NO distinction between GOOD terrorism and BAD terrorism. Just yesterday, I took a cab ride and was chatting up the cabbie - a fellow South Asian from Pakistan. We talked cricket and politics .... and the conversation went to France.

He almost let out a half smile about how he thought it was such a well planned attack when I quickly shut that shyt up. That's what needs to happen - the mainstream Muslim needs to speak up when the irrational Muslim explains away violence in the Muslim world and tries to spin a story of fidayeen, jihad, jannat, mujahideen, kafir etc.

Truthfully, I think Muslims are afraid. These guys target people who speak up.

Well the thing is, lots of Muslims speak out especially the North American Muslim leaders and scholars. The issue is that the media doesn't give them much airtime. So if there's no platform for you to hear from them, you won't know what they're saying. They do speak out though, especially on social media, check this link out, this proves that Muslim leaders speak out and do their part:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5878038

[DarthDiggler69]

This is simply not true. Terrorism is not a part of Islam whatsoever. Please see my other post for reference. And Prophet Muhammad did not tell his people to conquer the world by submission and terror. It's just not a true statement at all. It's the media that gives people this idea that Islam contains aspects of radicalism or whatever you want to call it. That's simply not true.
The Prophet was persecuted during his mission. This caused him to flee his hometown and he never even ordered his people to defend themselves against the persecution and killings of the early Muslims because he was not commanded by God to do so.

His own people fought against him for many years, people by the name of Khalid Bin Waleed ( chief military leader who fought against the Muslims for dozens of battles) and Abu Sufyan (the leader of the rebellion against Muhammad and his companions) and these were people who never believed in this religion. Eventually they ended up converting just based on Muhammad's character and kindness. They both thought that they would be executed based on all of the persecution and suffering they caused him and his companions. Instead, they embraced the religion and joined them and praised his mercy.

Oh my, I can pick story apart but Ill just say its only 1/10th of the story, the early years of the religion when Mohammad was trying to establish his religion and he is the minority but once he got it rolling and he had many followers he flipped the switch on non-muslims. But anyways not here to argue about Religion so I'll just leave it at that.

To sum up my stance: peaceful Muslims people are ok with me they are human, the Qu'ran and the books on the Life of their prophet is not

Stabilize Syria by using more Western special forces with Arabs and Kurds doing the main fighting and occupation of Iraq and Syria, then partition Syria and Iraq according to their tribes and form a confederation. Id keep Assad in power with swath of land of people who support him. Im all for a Kurdish state too if they want one, they are our only true allies over there and I dont trust Iraq at all

[MJPipRose]

My advice is before you judge a religion make sure to read the books, don't listen to the media or how someone else interprets it. The Quran is supposed to be the direct word of Allah for Muslims, it not supposed to be changed. Their Quran is the word of God just like Jesus is the word of God to Christians.
I read it, studied it and thought about changing but the verses of violence against infidels and other worse, contradicting and disgusting verses plus the scary Hadiths turned me away.
And one line soldified me to stay Christian, Mohammed told christians to judge him by what is said in the Scripture and according to our scripture he is the description of the anti-christ.

No offense to muslims, I don't agree with their religion but don't I hate them. I have a bunch of Muslim friends who are not jihadists and I know more of their religion than they do lol

Thanks for voicing your opinion. I'd like to point out once again that there are no such verses that promote violence as you put it. That's honesty just your perception and without a learned person explaining to you what those verses really mean along with the context, you won't understand such verses. I definitely don't want to start quoting Quranic verses back and forth and I respect your opinion but I don't think it's fair to say Islam contains violent teachings without you speaking to a person of knowledge of what your reading. And I only say that because the Quran was revealed during a time of constant revelation and specific verses were revealed at periods of Muhammad's (pbuh) life that were relevant at that particular context and part of his life/mission. So sure you can read something that might seem violent or weird to you, but it was really just referring to a time where he may have been told to defend himself against an oppressor. However, I don't know exactly what verse your referring to so that is just a wild guess at what you meant by that.
Having said that, it doesn't mean that the Quran is not relevant in modern times, it certainly is (according to the Muslim belief) but there is a specific way to interpret what your reading.

Secondly, there are many Qurans out there that contain bad translations within them. If you read something in one translation it could say something totally different in another. Once again I appreciate your honesty though, but if you prefer to quote me a verse that you felt this way from, I would prefer that you PM me, if that's what you'd like to do.

[RebuildaBulls]

My advice is before you judge a religion make sure to read the books, don't listen to the media or how someone else interprets it. The Quran is supposed to be the direct word of Allah for Muslims, it not supposed to be changed. Their Quran is the word of God just like Jesus is the word of God to Christians.
I read it, studied it and thought about changing but the verses of violence against infidels and other worse, contradicting and disgusting verses plus the scary Hadiths turned me away.
And one line soldified me to stay Christian, Mohammed told christians to judge him by what is said in the Scripture and according to our scripture he is the description of the anti-christ.

No offense to muslims, I don't agree with their religion but don't I hate them. I have a bunch of Muslim friends who are not jihadists and I know more of their religion than they do lol

Thanks for voicing your opinion. I'd like to point out once again that there are no such verses that promote violence as you put it. That's honesty just your perception and without a learned person explaining to you what those verses really mean along with the context, you won't understand such verses. I definitely don't want to start quoting Quranic verses back and forth and I respect your opinion but I don't think it's fair to say Islam contains violent teachings without you speaking to a person of knowledge of what your reading. And I only say that because the Quran was revealed during a time of constant revelation and specific verses were revealed at periods of Muhammad's (pbuh) life that were relevant at that particular context and part of his life/mission. So sure you can read something that might seem violent or weird to you, but it was really just referring to a time where he may have been told to defend himself against an oppressor. However, I don't know exactly what verse your referring to so that is just a wild guess at what you meant by that.
Having said that, it doesn't mean that the Quran is not relevant in modern times, it certainly is (according to the Muslim belief) but there is a specific way to interpret what your reading.

Secondly, there are many Qurans out there that contain bad translations within them. If you read something in one translation it could say something totally different in another. Once again I appreciate your honesty though, but if you prefer to quote me a verse that you felt this way from, I would prefer that you PM me, if that's what you'd like to do.

The are many many verses about violence or subjugation against non-muslims (and other weird unrelated stuff) and I know the stories behind it. I read all the English translations, had an Arabian guy translate for me also, heard several interpretations, let's just say I do understand what it means and I related it to their times and overall I disagree with it in the utmost way and I'll leave it that. But no hate against muslims, just disagree with the books

[DarthDiggler69]

French national anthem is so fitting. First time Ive read the english translation. Im not French but if I was it make me want to fight for France lol


Arise, children of the Fatherland,
The day of glory has arrived!
Against us tyranny
Raises its bloody banner
Do you hear, in the countryside,
The roar of those ferocious soldiers?
They're coming right into your arms
To cut the throats of your sons and women!

To arms, citizens,
Form your battalions,
Let's march, let's march!
Let the impure blood
Water our furrows!

What does this horde of slaves,
Of traitors and conjured kings want?
For whom are these vile chains,
These long-prepared irons?
Frenchmen, for us, ah! What outrage!
What fury must it arouse!
It is us they dare plan
To return to the old slavery!

To arms, citizens,
Form your battalions,
Let's march, let's march!
Let the impure blood
Water our furrows!

What! Foreign cohorts
Would make the law in our homes!
What! These mercenary phalanxes
Would strike down our proud warriors!
Great God! By chained hands
Our brows would yield under the yoke
Vile despots would have themselves
The masters of our destinies!

To arms, citizens,
Form your battalions,
Let's march, let's march!
Let the impure blood
Water our furrows!

Tremble, tyrants and you traitors
The shame of all parties,
Tremble! Your parricidal schemes
Will finally receive their reward!
Everyone is a soldier to fight you
If they fall, our young heroes,
The earth will produce new ones,
Ready to fight against you!

To arms, citizens,
Form your battalions,
Let's march, let's march!
Let the impure blood
Water our furrows!

Frenchmen, as magnanimous warriors,
Bear or hold back your blows!
You spare those sorry victims,
Who arm against us with regret.
But not these bloodthirsty despots,
These accomplices of Bouillé,
All these tigers who, mercilessly,
Rip their mother's breast!

To arms, citizens,
Form your battalions,
Let's march, let's march!
Let the impure blood
Water our furrows!

Sacred love of the Fatherland,
Lead, support our avenging arms
Liberty, cherished Liberty,
Fight with your defenders!
Under our flags, shall victory
Hurry to thy manly accents,
That your expiring enemies,
See your triumph and our glory!

To arms, citizens,
Form your battalions,
Let's march, let's march!
Let the impure blood
Water our furrows!

We shall enter the (military) career
When our elders are no longer there,
There we shall find their dust
And the trace of their virtues
Much less keen to survive them
Than to share their coffins,
We shall have the sublime pride
Of avenging or following them

Children, let Honour and Fatherland
be the object of all our wishes!
Let us always have souls nourished
With fires that might inspire both
Let us be united! Anything is possible;
Our vile enemies will fall,
Then the French will cease
To sing this fierce refrain:

To arms, citizens,
Form your battalions,
Let's march, let's march!
Let the impure blood
Water our furrows!

[TimRobbins]

Well if your going by that opinion, then take a look at the 1.7 billion muslims of the world who don't involve themselves in terrorism and live peaceful lives= those are the people who follow it. As I said earlier, these groups make up not even 2% of the Muslim population. I appreciate your opinion.

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/06/16/face-reality-many-muslims-support-isis

The ones doing the actual killings is not the concern. The ones supporting them are. Take a look as surveys on how many in the region support ISIS. It's not 2% and it's not 5%. More like 20% - 50%.

Look at surveys on how many European Muslims support ISIS. It's hardly 2%.

There is no that ISIS could keep running without the support of the local population. Saying it's 1% or 2% of Muslims is trivializing the problem. The support for ISIS runs much deeper than that.