BullyKing wrote:1. Nice strawman as no one said it was a dream roster only much better than what Hinkie inherited. Dre was a bust, yeah ok. Hinkie owed more 1sts and had less cap space so that holds no water.
your the one throwing words out like "gift" which by the way we got monroe and Dre at #8 and #9 by not tanking. If you want to keep acting like everyone knew dre was a allstar then by all means keeping lying to yourself. Dre was and still is very much potential vs production.
The point was that Hinkie and SVG both entered teams who's previous GM put them is sh* position to rebuild and i don't think "TANKING" was the only road out.
2.Where has Hinkie said he wants to win a championship? He has always said he wants to build a team that is consistently a contender. He knows you can't guarantee that you'll make that shot at the end but wants to build a team that will be in position to have a shot go in for a championship. "i see it as there putting their eggs in one basket that isn't even guratnee'd to work. Its not hard to understand." How can you not understand how indecipherable this is. There is no basket that is guaranteed to work - so your point is what exactly?
yet you agree that no championship would = failure. So what are you arguing? And again, you still have to make the right pick, whether it be at #1 or #10(for you miami fans

). It took Philly 3-4 years to find a superstar(which i think Okafor is). Looks like it took miami 1(JW). Again, i don't disagree with increasing your chances, but if you keep whiffing, maybe the problem isn't not enough chances, but the use of those chances.
4. Non-sequitor - the question is how else you build a superstar team. Still waiting.
And there's the problem. You , like hinkie, want A+B= superstar team/contender. However when you look at the superstar teams, there's not one forumla. Until you can get that simple fact that you can't take all factors into a equation, the easier it'll be for you to understand.
There's multiple ways to building a superstar team, the one thing that they all have in common is that they have competent GM.
5. I think there are many accounts that wonder whether SVG has improved the team at all let alone dramatically. They were a playoff bubble team before and that's what they look like now.
did you just call us a playoff team in 2014? Just stop.
I see your trying to take this discussion on a tangent and i'm not biting. Your opinion doesn't change fact, though feel free to argue how Smith+Monroe+Dre+singler+john lucas 3 is a better roster. I'll just have a good laugh and ignore it.