Clippers Acquire Lance Stephenson for Spencer Hawes and Matt Barnes

[TucsonClip]

Doc refuses to develop his bench or alter rotations.

Isn't him trying Lance with the starters, then moving him back to the bench an example of him trying to do just that?

Not when you bench him 9 games into the season and dont even give Wes Johnson much run in his place.

He's going back to old reliable (Crawford) and his previous old reliable (Pierce). No Lance last night, no where near enough of Wes and no attempt to manipulate lineups to match up with GS when they went small with all their starters.

[Wammy Giveaway]

I'm now starting to think that the only reason Doc got Stephenson was so that he can trade him for a superstar. If that is his M.O., you can be sure right away that no one in the league is going to fall for Doc's secret trade plan.

[LACtdom]

I'm now starting to think that the only reason Doc got Stephenson was so that he can trade him for a superstar. If that is his M.O., you can be sure right away that no one in the league is going to fall for Doc's secret trade plan.

Every year we say "Doc got this player so he could do a secret trade mid-season" and every year it turns out Doc just made a dumb trade. I hope I'm wrong but I'm not getting my hopes up for any kind of Jamal farm trade for a star.

I hate the fact that Doc signs players he doesn't use. Lance wasn't even playing bad D. Sure, he may not be able to shoot 28% from 3 like Jamal was but still...

[Diop]

I'm now starting to think that the only reason Doc got Stephenson was so that he can trade him for a superstar. If that is his M.O., you can be sure right away that no one in the league is going to fall for Doc's secret trade plan.

no one is trading for Lance, we couldn't give him away last year.

[nickhx2]

yeah, only reason anyone would trade for him is to get out from under 9m at the EOS after they decline his option.

i mean sure there could be some dysfunctional team thinking they can make him their focal point but they'd have to be pretty dysfunctional at this point.

[boomershadow]

I wanted to see Lance work out somewhere. I dont really want him back on our team, but I watched him go at Lebron in the ECF. He can ball given the right environment.

[og15]

Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports (6/15/15)

The Clippers are considering the idea of using Stephenson as the primary ballhandler when All-Star Chris Paul is out of the game, league sources said. Stephenson struggled with the way Charlotte point guard Kemba Walker dominated the ball on offense, and would assuredly find a similar situation with Paul in Los Angeles.

Sources: Clippers discussing deal to acquire Hornets' Lance Stephenson

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The part you highlighted in this quote is funny after the fact. The tweet was the sentiment of many which had many of us thinking Jamal would then be moved. Then it had us thinking okay I guess Lance is going to be a starter then? Then it had us thinking...wait, how is this supposed to work? Why trade for a guy who you know is maximized by giving a decent amount of usage without structuring your roster to be able to do that.

I hate it. I hate that they didn't even include Crawford in the deal. I hate that they sent Barnes away. I hate that they Dudley'd Hawes. I hate everything Lance is gonna bring to the team. I hate the new unis. I think I'm pretty much starting to hate this team.

In hindsight, which part do you now hate the most though?

[QRich3]

I hate it. I hate that they didn't even include Crawford in the deal. I hate that they sent Barnes away. I hate that they Dudley'd Hawes. I hate everything Lance is gonna bring to the team. I hate the new unis. I think I'm pretty much starting to hate this team.

In hindsight, which part do you now hate the most though?

lol blast from the past
Well, giving away Barnes was mitigated by the appearance of Luc and the trade for Jeff Green, and Hawes hasn't done anything that makes me think he'd be a part of the rotation. And I'm more used to the unis, tho I still don't like them, and Lance didn't become another selfish ball hog getting heavy minutes as I thought he would, he even got himself traded away. So I guess keeping Jamal is the part that bothers me the most and the part that's gonna hurt us the most. I'm half hoping he gets injured just before the 2nd round so the team improves by not having him there.

[og15]

I don't even know if Jamal being out would end up being a good thing. If the team looses, we don't want some excuse of "Jamal was injured" which could help his case for returning to the team; something that wouldn't be a good idea.

The man just turned 36 yesterday, crazy, but a 37 year old Jamal next post-season coupled with Doc's excessive trust and comfort level with him is not a good thought.

[QRich3]

Well, the idea would be that the team would perform better without him and that'd show Doc we can be better with a different kind of player in his place. But it's comical that we're resorting to hoping one of our guys gets injured for what? the 3rd or 4th year in a row? he's been one of the main culprits for our shortcomings for a few years now, and it's only helped him be a more fixed piece in our rotation. It's just sad at this point.

[mattd13]

jamal is a great guy but is hurting this team by the way doc uses him. the unfortunate thing is we have nothing else at this time. even when and if blake comes back this team will struggle because of the hole at the 3 and the horrible play of the second unit. I could go on and on but as I read other posts most see what I see. as much as I want this team to do well doc is killing the chance.

[og15]

Well, the idea would be that the team would perform better without him and that'd show Doc we can be better with a different kind of player in his place. But it's comical that we're resorting to hoping one of our guys gets injured for what? the 3rd or 4th year in a row? he's been one of the main culprits for our shortcomings for a few years now, and it's only helped him be a more fixed piece in our rotation. It's just sad at this point.

I guess the question is who actually plays more if Jamal goes down? For example, if this means things are shuffled to find more minutes for Pierce, then that might actually be a bad thing. Either way we'll see how it goes, and really just hoping Blake returns at this point.

[nickhx2]

I don't even know if Jamal being out would end up being a good thing. If the team looses, we don't want some excuse of "Jamal was injured" which could help his case for returning to the team; something that wouldn't be a good idea.

The man just turned 36 yesterday, crazy, but a 37 year old Jamal next post-season coupled with Doc's excessive trust and comfort level with him is not a good thought.

nightmare fuel

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