What's Phillies outlook if they get Ben Simmons?

[DrCoach]

I think if the 76ers nab the first pick they will have the foundation for a dynasty, they have money to add a FA guard or two

Plus Embiid and Saric potentially coming back

Thoughts?

[wickedwrister]

Not great, not sure they taught him how to hit a curve ball in Australia

[Heat_Fan_87]

they are multiple pieces away from being a playoff team, not one.

[83SixersRocked]

Can he throw a slider? Sorry, couldn't resist. If they see him as a 3, he'd definitely fill a need.

[Domejandro]

One of my biggest issues so far in Philadelphia's rebuild has been their disregard how pieces fit together, and this would continue that trend. Though the individual players are terrific, the spacing of that team is just brutal at almost every position (other than Robert Covington and the streaky Canaan). In the hypothetical of Ben Simmons joining the team, I think Nerlens Noel would become completely ineffective.

In addition, the outlook on Joel Embiid's foot is not good, he is too unreliable to bank on for the future.

I personally am not a major fan of Dario Šarić, but that is just an opinion of course.

So the way I see it, Jahlil Okafor and Ben Simmons would make two great building blocks, and Robert Covington could definitely be a fourth to fifth starter, but they are going to need another year (at least) of tanking to properly piece things together. I am concerned about a long term cycle that could formulate.

That said, if they get that Lakers pick at four, they could potentially be set in the long run after the aforementioned one year; I feel a lot banks in that pick panning out.

I know that was brutally negative, but I don't think it is just a "get Simmons and watch the Championships roll in"-type situation, it will take more than that.

[OhMyBosh]

they are multiple pieces away from being a playoff team, not one.

Tell that to Porzingod.

[Kilo]

Anybody who gets Simmons has the foundation for a dynasty.

[C.lupus]

One of my biggest issues so far in Philadelphia's rebuild has been their disregard how pieces fit together, and this would continue that trend. Though the individual players are terrific, the spacing of that team is just brutal at almost every position (other than Robert Covington and the streaky Canaan). In the hypothetical of Ben Simmons joining the team, I think Nerlens Noel would become completely ineffective.

In addition, the outlook on Joel Embiid's foot is not good, he is too unreliable to bank on for the future.

I personally am not a major fan of Dario Šarić, but that is just an opinion of course.

So the way I see it, Jahlil Okafor and Ben Simmons would make two great building blocks, and Robert Covington could definitely be a fourth to fifth starter, but they are going to need another year (at least) of tanking to properly piece things together. I am concerned about a long term cycle that could formulate.

That said, if they get that Lakers pick at four, they could potentially be set in the long run after the aforementioned one year; I feel a lot banks in that pick panning out.

I know that was brutally negative, but I don't think it is just a "get Simmons and watch the Championships roll in"-type situation, it will take more than that.

Agree for the most part. If they can draft Simmons and Jamal Murray with the Lakers' pick, then bring Saric over, they have a very nice foundation. They have tons of picks for trading and Noel would bring back a nice player. They definitely need to start putting together a real team at some point but with a little lotto luck and a couple smart trades they could do that fairly quickly.

[BullyKing]

Anybody who gets Simmons has the foundation for a dynasty.

And on this, the 25th day of November, 2015, the Ben Simmons hype-train derailed.

[zimpy27]

Well you want to surround Simmons with 3 point shooters and a defensive C.

Canaan, Covington, Saric, Simmons, Noel is probably their best lineup if he goes there. I actually think that is one one of the better lineups he could walk into.

Don't know what you do with Okafor. He would be a terrible fit with Simmons. He needs defense to be a starter on that team. Maybe they trade him or have him as the backup PF/C. If Embiid gets healthy then he takes Noels spot, Noel becomes the backup PF/C and Okafor is traded for a Canaan upgrade and a bench fit out.

[BullyKing]

I think we should stop judging whether a bigger guy will be able to shoot well from the outside after a few college games. Guys like Simmons have spent their entire life up to this point playing down low because they were bigger than everyone else and there was really no need to shoot from the outside when they can get to the rim at will against these high school jabronis. Maybe let them develop their outside shot a bit before condemning them to a life in the paint?

[mksp]

One of my biggest issues so far in Philadelphia's rebuild has been their disregard how pieces fit together, and this would continue that trend. Though the individual players are terrific, the spacing of that team is just brutal at almost every position (other than Robert Covington and the streaky Canaan). In the hypothetical of Ben Simmons joining the team, I think Nerlens Noel would become completely ineffective.

In addition, the outlook on Joel Embiid's foot is not good, he is too unreliable to bank on for the future.

I personally am not a major fan of Dario Šarić, but that is just an opinion of course.

So the way I see it, Jahlil Okafor and Ben Simmons would make two great building blocks, and Robert Covington could definitely be a fourth to fifth starter, but they are going to need another year (at least) of tanking to properly piece things together. I am concerned about a long term cycle that could formulate.

That said, if they get that Lakers pick at four, they could potentially be set in the long run after the aforementioned one year; I feel a lot banks in that pick panning out.

I know that was brutally negative, but I don't think it is just a "get Simmons and watch the Championships roll in"-type situation, it will take more than that.

Are you a doctor?

Because Joel's doctor says his outlook is great. Wondering why you think otherwise.

[DaddyCool19]

If they think Wroten and Canaan aren't good enough I would go after Delly. Before you go after him I would overpay for Fournier.

Those guys are still fairly young and could be a part of their future.

[TONYROMOHOF]

One of my biggest issues so far in Philadelphia's rebuild has been their disregard how pieces fit together, and this would continue that trend. Though the individual players are terrific, the spacing of that team is just brutal at almost every position (other than Robert Covington and the streaky Canaan). In the hypothetical of Ben Simmons joining the team, I think Nerlens Noel would become completely ineffective.

In addition, the outlook on Joel Embiid's foot is not good, he is too unreliable to bank on for the future.

I personally am not a major fan of Dario Šarić, but that is just an opinion of course.

So the way I see it, Jahlil Okafor and Ben Simmons would make two great building blocks, and Robert Covington could definitely be a fourth to fifth starter, but they are going to need another year (at least) of tanking to properly piece things together. I am concerned about a long term cycle that could formulate.

That said, if they get that Lakers pick at four, they could potentially be set in the long run after the aforementioned one year; I feel a lot banks in that pick panning out.

I know that was brutally negative, but I don't think it is just a "get Simmons and watch the Championships roll in"-type situation, it will take more than that.

Are you a doctor?

Because Joel's doctor says his outlook is great. Wondering why you think otherwise.

History is one reason, big guys and foot injuries has been a bad combo in the past
I hope he plays, its **** not getting to see fuys like him and oden etc
Its gonna be hardtho, look at durant right now, and hes lighter

[Domejandro]

One of my biggest issues so far in Philadelphia's rebuild has been their disregard how pieces fit together, and this would continue that trend. Though the individual players are terrific, the spacing of that team is just brutal at almost every position (other than Robert Covington and the streaky Canaan). In the hypothetical of Ben Simmons joining the team, I think Nerlens Noel would become completely ineffective.

In addition, the outlook on Joel Embiid's foot is not good, he is too unreliable to bank on for the future.

I personally am not a major fan of Dario Šarić, but that is just an opinion of course.

So the way I see it, Jahlil Okafor and Ben Simmons would make two great building blocks, and Robert Covington could definitely be a fourth to fifth starter, but they are going to need another year (at least) of tanking to properly piece things together. I am concerned about a long term cycle that could formulate.

That said, if they get that Lakers pick at four, they could potentially be set in the long run after the aforementioned one year; I feel a lot banks in that pick panning out.

I know that was brutally negative, but I don't think it is just a "get Simmons and watch the Championships roll in"-type situation, it will take more than that.

Are you a doctor?

Because Joel's doctor says his outlook is great. Wondering why you think otherwise.

I am not a physician, no, but I do have a PHD in deductive-reasoning. I'll filter myself on the rest of the snark, but I do not see why I should simply accept a report out of Philadelphia to be objective about his healing process, especially given how massive the setback was. I will believe it once I see it, but the outlook, in all objectivity, is not good.

[naabzor]

Lottery Team. Again.

[BullyKing]

One of my biggest issues so far in Philadelphia's rebuild has been their disregard how pieces fit together, and this would continue that trend. Though the individual players are terrific, the spacing of that team is just brutal at almost every position (other than Robert Covington and the streaky Canaan). In the hypothetical of Ben Simmons joining the team, I think Nerlens Noel would become completely ineffective.

In addition, the outlook on Joel Embiid's foot is not good, he is too unreliable to bank on for the future.

I personally am not a major fan of Dario Šarić, but that is just an opinion of course.

So the way I see it, Jahlil Okafor and Ben Simmons would make two great building blocks, and Robert Covington could definitely be a fourth to fifth starter, but they are going to need another year (at least) of tanking to properly piece things together. I am concerned about a long term cycle that could formulate.

That said, if they get that Lakers pick at four, they could potentially be set in the long run after the aforementioned one year; I feel a lot banks in that pick panning out.

I know that was brutally negative, but I don't think it is just a "get Simmons and watch the Championships roll in"-type situation, it will take more than that.

Are you a doctor?

Because Joel's doctor says his outlook is great. Wondering why you think otherwise.

I am not a physician, no, but I do have a PHD in deductive-reasoning. I'll filter myself on the rest of the snark, but I do not see why I should simply accept a report out of Philadelphia to be objective about his healing process, especially given how massive the setback was. I will believe it once I see it, but the outlook, in all objectivity, is not good.

No one is saying you accept it. But the counter is that you instead seem convinced by nothing but your own unsupported opinion. If you're not going to accept the news report, which again is fine, you'd think you just have no opinion and wait and see. But I understand that wouldn't fit your narrative.

[Mr Puddles]

they are multiple pieces away from being a playoff team, not one.

Tell that to Porzingod.

Ok,

Kristaps at the off chance the you're reading this, the Philadelphia 76ers are more than one piece away from becoming a playoff team.

[DrCoach]

they are multiple pieces away from being a playoff team, not one.

Did you read my post? I clearly said they were getting 3 players PLUS the ability to sign FA guards

[miltk]

The 6ers have an organizational problem. In other words, same ole same ole