Don't Be Hurtin' Lin - The Jeremy Lin Thread 2

[TinmanZBoy]

nobody is holding him back in the Hornets...
it is his own skill level setting himself back...

come on he is on a short lease . admit it . last bench player in. definitely not allowed to play through his mistakes.
not part of the final lineup if every hornet player is hitting on all cylinders. for him to slip in. either kemba or lamb has to regressing. these 2 have alot of space to try while lin sits on the bench.

tonight's game is just one example... what I am talking about is my observation about what lin did on the court the whole season so far...

where is the mid-range game which was so promising during the pre-season.. where is the floater he has worked on the last two summers? He still drives into the crowd without a tight handle to back it up... still not comfortable to run more intricate motion offense... In reality, what McHale run in Rockets is the best system for lin, less structured, a lot of PnRs, high octane, fast in transition, open floor....
Lin has had a very high usage rate this season, but he has not created much for teammates, he himself scored well for a couple of games and that's it...
I will not surprised to see Lin will have a few nice games or a stretch nice games, but ultimately he will go back to his mean, because his skill level is still the same, and with less intangibles ;-(

[TinmanZBoy]

nobody is holding him back in the Hornets...
it is his own skill level setting himself back...

come on he is on a short lease . admit it . last bench player in. definitely not allowed to play through his mistakes.
not part of the final lineup if every hornet player is hitting on all cylinders. for him to slip in. either kemba or lamb has to regressing. these 2 have alot of space to try while lin sits on the bench.

Er, Lin finished most of the games. Even when he wasn't playing well.

Lin will find his groove. He's already made a bunch of winning plays in games. Even in today's game, that defensive play on Neil was key to starting the comeback.

he finished games because his defense has been impressive, he matched well at certain night, and he does have the ability to score... but we are talking about Lin showing abilities of a starting PG in this league, it is not promising at all

[Appwrangler]

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[bws94]

come on he is on a short lease . admit it . last bench player in. definitely not allowed to play through his mistakes.
not part of the final lineup if every hornet player is hitting on all cylinders. for him to slip in. either kemba or lamb has to regressing. these 2 have alot of space to try while lin sits on the bench.

Er, Lin finished most of the games. Even when he wasn't playing well.

Lin will find his groove. He's already made a bunch of winning plays in games. Even in today's game, that defensive play on Neil was key to starting the comeback.

he finished games because his defense has been impressive, he matched well at certain night, and he does have the ability to score... but we are talking about Lin showing abilities of a starting PG in this league, it is not promising at all

Maybe Lin will be a strong Ginobili type and not a starting PG. I don't know. But I don't think he's on a short leash.

I agree, Lin is repeating a lot of the same mistakes and not using his mid-range shot, hesitation, floater, etc. that would benefit him to use. I don't know about intangibles. He still has them, but they are becoming defensive ones over offensive ones which isn't what people used to think of when they thought of him.

I think he can run complex offenses because at times he moves very well off-ball. He just tends to do the same problematic things over and over and it's disappointing that now at 27 and in his 6th year, he hasn't taken that leap that is necessary to be come closer to realizing his potential.

[lin is ok]

lin has to do one of these slam down dunks to seriously breakout of his 'soft' reputation.

[lin is ok]

this looks nice?

[blueice]

Lin is doing fine.

I think what is going on now is the same as Rockets when they got Harden. You do see similarity.

1) No one was expecting the team to do good. But they beat everyone's expecting.
2) They have no star and they need one to attract another star
3) They have a lot of caps space coming up next season.

Because of the team beating everyone's expectation, they are doing #2 to create a star. On the team's roaster, there are only 3 person that are on a long term contract and not on the rookie contract: Kember, MKG and Lamb.

We already know Lamb's ceiling, so he is strike out.
MKG is injuried
So Hornets only hope is Kemba

Kemba has been playing a lot of minutes in the last few games to buff up his stats. From now on, Kemba will be playing 40+mpg or more to get him into the All Star game.

* Batum is on a 1 year lease. While he is playing exceptionally well, the Hornets organization will not put much into him until he is resigned.

What's Lamb's ceiling?

[ChokeFasncists]

Nice D

[Little General]

Nice D

That's sounds so wrong lol

[ChokeFasncists]

What's wrong?

[cw3k]

What's Lamb's ceiling?

He is not a star.

[Liver_Pooty]

What's Lamb's ceiling?

He is not a star.

Lol. Didn't answer the question.

Has a higher ceiling than Lin of course. I think Jamal Crawford is a decent comp. Instant offense.

[HornetJail]

We already know Lamb's ceiling, so he is strike out.
MKG is injuried
So Hornets only hope is Kemba

Kemba has been playing a lot of minutes in the last few games to buff up his stats. From now on, Kemba will be playing 40+mpg or more to get him into the All Star game.

* Batum is on a 1 year lease. While he is playing exceptionally well, the Hornets organization will not put much into him until he is resigned.

[13th Man]

This is the way I see it and I could be wrong since it's a long season. At the end of the season, the Hornets will likely part with Al but try to retain Batum (hopefully not at Max). Then they will also seek for another star FA with Al money. They already have their other cornerstones secured for awhile (Kemba, MKG, Lamb, Kaminsky).

Asssuming that Lin continues to play the way he has thus far (which needs improvement imo), they will pick up his 2nd year option or try to sign him to a new backup role contract 5-7M (if this is the way it works, I'm not sure). This is the way it's looking to me at the moment but of course a lot can change til end of season. I think that Lin is seeking for a bigger role but if he continues down this path there may not be better options out there. Personally, I'd like to see him settle with a team for a bit than be a journeyman player but we will see. Jeremy Lamb was a steal btw at 7M.

[bws94]

What's Lamb's ceiling?

He is not a star.

Lol. Didn't answer the question.

Has a higher ceiling than Lin of course. I think Jamal Crawford is a decent comp. Instant offense.

Really?

Different player. Lin is stronger at facilitation, defense, making big plays, hustle. Lamb is better at shooting. Lin and Lamb can make a great combo. They just need to keep playing together. If Lin stays, I hope it happens.

Neither need to be stars. Man, who cares about that? They both can come in and turn a game around. Especially together.

[Liver_Pooty]

He is not a star.

Lol. Didn't answer the question.

Has a higher ceiling than Lin of course. I think Jamal Crawford is a decent comp. Instant offense.

Really?

Different player. Lin is stronger at facilitation, defense, making big plays, hustle. Lamb is better at shooting. Lin and Lamb can make a great combo. They just need to keep playing together. If Lin stays, I hope it happens.

Neither need to be stars. Man, who cares about that? They both can come in and turn a game around. Especially together.

I'm assuming you're responding to him as opposed to me. Neither one is a star, and probably won't ever be. Really solid role players.

[steady]

This is the way I see it and I could be wrong since it's a long season. At the end of the season, the Hornets will likely part with Al but try to retain Batum (hopefully not at Max). Then they will also seek for another star FA with Al money. They already have their other cornerstones secured for awhile (Kemba, MKG, Lamb, Kaminsky).

Asssuming that Lin continues to play the way he has thus far (which needs improvement imo), they will pick up his 2nd year option or try to sign him to a new backup role contract 5-7M (if this is the way it works, I'm not sure). This is the way it's looking to me at the moment but of course a lot can change til end of season. I think that Lin is seeking for a bigger role but if he continues down this path there may not be better options out there. Personally, I'd like to see him settle with a team for a bit than be a journeyman player but we will see. Jeremy Lamb was a steal btw at 7M.

His contract is for two years, second year player option which means it is not Hornets who decide whether to take the second year - it is Lin.

The salary he is making is less than Brian Roberts - so there is almost no chance he signs for second year. He is playing well enough even now to net something more

I think it is sad if he does not stay in Charlotte - but Lin has skills, and especially with improved defense, he will be fine. Whether here or someplace else.

The decision to come here was a good one - whether it will work out for long term it is too early to tell. Either way I think Hornets and Lin will have a special year.

[13th Man]

This is the way I see it and I could be wrong since it's a long season. At the end of the season, the Hornets will likely part with Al but try to retain Batum (hopefully not at Max). Then they will also seek for another star FA with Al money. They already have their other cornerstones secured for awhile (Kemba, MKG, Lamb, Kaminsky).

Asssuming that Lin continues to play the way he has thus far (which needs improvement imo), they will pick up his 2nd year option or try to sign him to a new backup role contract 5-7M (if this is the way it works, I'm not sure). This is the way it's looking to me at the moment but of course a lot can change til end of season. I think that Lin is seeking for a bigger role but if he continues down this path there may not be better options out there. Personally, I'd like to see him settle with a team for a bit than be a journeyman player but we will see. Jeremy Lamb was a steal btw at 7M.

His contract is for two years, second year player option which means it is not Hornets who decide whether to take the second year - it is Lin.

The salary he is making is less than Brian Roberts - so there is almost no chance he signs for second year. He is playing well enough even now to net something more

whether Lin re-signs here (and amount they will offer) will have a lot to do with the role he has

I think it is sad if he does not stay in Charlotte - but Lin has skills, and especially with improved defense, he will be fine. Whether here or someplace else. I think he will settle in and have a good year. and he will have a good time contributing to this team and they will have a special year.

One thing I wasn't sure about is if Lin decides not to pick up the 2nd year option, the Hornets could still sign him to a new contract then right? That's why I threw in the new contract #s if this was the case.

[steady]

This is the way I see it and I could be wrong since it's a long season. At the end of the season, the Hornets will likely part with Al but try to retain Batum (hopefully not at Max). Then they will also seek for another star FA with Al money. They already have their other cornerstones secured for awhile (Kemba, MKG, Lamb, Kaminsky).

Asssuming that Lin continues to play the way he has thus far (which needs improvement imo), they will pick up his 2nd year option or try to sign him to a new backup role contract 5-7M (if this is the way it works, I'm not sure). This is the way it's looking to me at the moment but of course a lot can change til end of season. I think that Lin is seeking for a bigger role but if he continues down this path there may not be better options out there. Personally, I'd like to see him settle with a team for a bit than be a journeyman player but we will see. Jeremy Lamb was a steal btw at 7M.

His contract is for two years, second year player option which means it is not Hornets who decide whether to take the second year - it is Lin.

The salary he is making is less than Brian Roberts - so there is almost no chance he signs for second year. He is playing well enough even now to net something more

whether Lin re-signs here (and amount they will offer) will have a lot to do with the role he has

I think it is sad if he does not stay in Charlotte - but Lin has skills, and especially with improved defense, he will be fine. Whether here or someplace else. I think he will settle in and have a good year. and he will have a good time contributing to this team and they will have a special year.

One thing I wasn't sure about is if Lin decides not to pick up the 2nd year option, the Hornets could still sign him to a new contract then right? That's why I threw in the new contract #s if this was the case.

Yes He will be able to sign with anyone.

[tonman]

come on he is on a short lease . admit it . last bench player in. definitely not allowed to play through his mistakes.
not part of the final lineup if every hornet player is hitting on all cylinders. for him to slip in. either kemba or lamb has to regressing. these 2 have alot of space to try while lin sits on the bench.

Er, Lin finished most of the games. Even when he wasn't playing well.

Lin will find his groove. He's already made a bunch of winning plays in games. Even in today's game, that defensive play on Neil was key to starting the comeback.

he finished games because his defense has been impressive, he matched well at certain night, and he does have the ability to score... but we are talking about Lin showing abilities of a starting PG in this league, it is not promising at all

he's started many games at PG (and SG). as I've said it before, give Lin years in one system/team starting at PG and then we'll see if he can or can't be a starting PG. I mean shooting below 40% isn't an issue for a starting PG right?