Denzel Valentine

ZGendron317 · Post #1 » by **ZGendron317** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:00 pm

Thoughts on where he will go in the draft, and how he will do in the NBA?

reanimator · Post #2 » by **reanimator** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:05 pm

Should watch a lot of Danny Green, ball whipper though and worser on-ball D. 25-31.

doordoor123 · Post #3 » by **doordoor123** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:32 pm

Wait he's only 6'5? I thought he was at least 6'7. Wow. Those post moves seem much more impressive now.

DubCeeSwag · Post #4 » by **DubCeeSwag** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:29 pm

ZGendron317 wrote:Thoughts on where he will go in the draft, and how he will do in the NBA?

Second round draft pick. Izzo doesn't develop a skill set for the NBA. He develops a skill set to win college basketball games. That's why he doesn't put more players in the league. Guys like Bell, Anderson and Lucas had to go overseas to learn the game and later made it to the NBA. Bob Knight faced similar criticism throughout his career at Indiana. Amazingly, both coaches were responsible for top notch programs that contended regularly for Big Ten championships and were often contenders for NCAA titles, as well. I'll take that kind of coach any day though.

ZGendron317 · Post #5 » by **ZGendron317** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:40 am

reanimator wrote:Should watch a lot of Danny Green, ball whipper though and worser on-ball D. 25-31.

Worser?

ZGendron317 · Post #6 » by **ZGendron317** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:43 am

I think he will go late first round, early second, but then he will prove everybody wrong who passed up on him.

reanimator · Post #7 » by **reanimator** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:48 am

ZGendron317 wrote:
reanimator wrote:Should watch a lot of Danny Green, ball whipper though and worser on-ball D. 25-31.

Worser?

Excuse my grammar but yes.

Dame Lizard · Post #8 » by **Dame Lizard** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:35 am

Killer triple double tonight. It's going to be interesting to see how he performs going forwards.

BoyzNTheHood · Post #9 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:48 am

I can see him being what Royce White was supposed to be, or what Boris Diaw was/is as a pro.

ZGendron317 · Post #10 » by **ZGendron317** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:28 am

He has to be the leader for POY right now. He's doing everything, and could be a top 15-20 pick when it's all said and done.

reanimator · Post #11 » by **reanimator** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:57 am

He loves coming off screens for 3s lol...really like my comp.

Post #12 » by **Undefeated** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:39 am

I like the comp to Danny Green. But I think he's a better playmaker/ball-handler than Green and has a bit more off the bounce juice than Green who's more of a straight line guy. Think he's somewhere between Evan Turner and Batum.

reanimator · Post #13 » by **reanimator** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:55 am

Undefeated wrote:I like the comp to Danny Green. But I think he's a better playmaker/ball-handler than Green and has a bit more off the bounce juice than Green who's more of a straight line guy. Think he's somewhere between Evan Turner and Batum.

Definitely a better passer. Don't think he handles much at the next level, though.

Buckeye-NBAFan · Post #14 » by **Buckeye-NBAFan** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:45 pm

DubCeeSwag wrote:
ZGendron317 wrote:Thoughts on where he will go in the draft, and how he will do in the NBA?

Second round draft pick. Izzo doesn't develop a skill set for the NBA. He develops a skill set to win college basketball games. That's why he doesn't put more players in the league. Guys like Bell, Anderson and Lucas had to go overseas to learn the game and later made it to the NBA. Bob Knight faced similar criticism throughout his career at Indiana. Amazingly, both coaches were responsible for top notch programs that contended regularly for Big Ten championships and were often contenders for NCAA titles, as well. I'll take that kind of coach any day though.

Denzel Valentine was the #81 ranked prospect in the national coming out of high school. No reason he couldn't have a been a late 3rd round NBA draft pick if Izzo hadn't ruined his career.

Post #15 » by **Nolan** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:17 pm

DubCeeSwag wrote:
ZGendron317 wrote:Thoughts on where he will go in the draft, and how he will do in the NBA?

Second round draft pick. Izzo doesn't develop a skill set for the NBA. He develops a skill set to win college basketball games. That's why he doesn't put more players in the league. Guys like Bell, Anderson and Lucas had to go overseas to learn the game and later made it to the NBA. Bob Knight faced similar criticism throughout his career at Indiana. Amazingly, both coaches were responsible for top notch programs that contended regularly for Big Ten championships and were often contenders for NCAA titles, as well. I'll take that kind of coach any day though.

That's kinda not what Izzo gets paid for though.

As for Valentine, loving what i'm seeing from him so far. If he keeps this up he's going to be a late 1st pick for sure.

Post #16 » by **Duke4life831** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:16 pm

Great college player. Not sure how well his game translates to the pros. Probably be a late 1st early 2nd. Won't be surprised to see a smart franchise like the Spurs or GS pick him up.

No-Man · Post #17 » by **No-Man** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:47 pm

He is not as quick or athletic as Danny was, he reminds of a more under control and better shooter Evan Turner, which is a really good role player

Dame Lizard · Post #18 » by **Dame Lizard** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:52 pm

He's currently averaging 20/9/9 with shooting splits of 49/45/80, whilst shooting 7.8 three pointers a game (at 44.7% click).

If he keeps this up, he's going earlier than a late 1st round. Yes, It'd be unrealistic to expect him to keep this up, but just pointing out that if he somehow kept this up, he'd be taken earlier for sure.

Post #19 » by **Duke4life831** » Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:21 am

Dame Lizard wrote:He's currently averaging 20/9/9 with shooting splits of 49/45/80, whilst shooting 7.8 three pointers a game (at 44.7% click).

If he keeps this up, he's going earlier than a late 1st round. Yes, It'd be unrealistic to expect him to keep this up, but just pointing out that if he somehow kept this up, he'd be taken earlier for sure.

I cant see him going anytime before 20. Hes great against college opposition, but hes just not that quick or athletic. That tends to be a problem for guards in the NBA. Hes either going to be a bench or role player that everyone forgets about unless hes on your favorite team. Or he can pull a Danny Green and find a team with the perfect system for him where he can end up being a really solid role player.

reanimator · Post #20 » by **reanimator** » Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:28 am

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwl1FxaTJ6I&list=TLEP9Wuh6VKgUyOTExMjAxNQ[/youtube]

30 pts off dribble hand offs and catch+shoot off screens...crazy