Postgame: Bears at Packers

[RiotPunch]

I want to see Cobb, Monty, Janis and Quarless out there. Have Monty and Janis stretch the field and let Cobb work the slot. Can't be worse than this current sh*tstorm. Aaron has got to get over his trust issues. Janis is a gamer and is the only healthy WR that can gain separation.

[Jollay]

Hard to believe our hopes of doing anything in the playoffs ride in no small part on if a rookie 3rd round draft pick receiver can come back and play well after an injury.

That just shouldn't be the case for a SB favorite with Aaron Rodgers.

[Ron Swanson]

So if the Packers miss the playoffs after starting out 6-0...would McCarthy actually be held accountable or nah?

He won a Super Bowl 5 years ago you ****.

But seriously,it's scary to think that if Desean Jackson didn't run that punt back for a TD against the Giants week 15 in 2010 and everything else in the world remained the same from 2008 until this very moment,the Rodgers/McCarthy/TT era would be an absolute abortion.

2008 6-10 no playoffs
2009 one and done,defense gives up 51pts to a geriatric Kurt Warner in the playoffs.
2010 no playoffs
2011 only team to go 15-1 and 0-1 in the playoffs and didn't just lose,but got humiliated at home in the playoffs.
2012 Defense didn't show up in a playoff game AGIAN,Kaepernick is still running.
2013 One and done in the playoffs AGIAN.
2014 If there was a choke that was the most epic choke of all chokes,in a championship game no less,would you expect it NOT to be the Rodgers/MM/TT era Packers?
2015 We lost to the **** 4-6 Bears at home on Favre night,and I'm sure something epic is still in store.

The most sobering thing is that would be only 2 playoff wins in 7 seasons (soon to be 8),one of which came against a Vikings team playing with 17th string QB.


Put Desean Jackson in the Packer hall of fame.

The mental gymnastics you perform to come up with these kinds of "what if" scenarios has to be exhausting....

"What if Brandon Bostick doesn't **** the bed on one play and the Packers go on to beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl?"

[rilamann]

So if the Packers miss the playoffs after starting out 6-0...would McCarthy actually be held accountable or nah?

He won a Super Bowl 5 years ago you ****.

But seriously,it's scary to think that if Desean Jackson didn't run that punt back for a TD against the Giants week 15 in 2010 and everything else in the world remained the same from 2008 until this very moment,the Rodgers/McCarthy/TT era would be an absolute abortion.

2008 6-10 no playoffs
2009 one and done,defense gives up 51pts to a geriatric Kurt Warner in the playoffs.
2010 no playoffs
2011 only team to go 15-1 and 0-1 in the playoffs and didn't just lose,but got humiliated at home in the playoffs.
2012 Defense didn't show up in a playoff game AGIAN,Kaepernick is still running.
2013 One and done in the playoffs AGIAN.
2014 If there was a choke that was the most epic choke of all chokes,in a championship game no less,would you expect it NOT to be the Rodgers/MM/TT era Packers?
2015 We lost to the **** 4-6 Bears at home on Favre night,and I'm sure something epic is still in store.

The most sobering thing is that would be only 2 playoff wins in 7 seasons (soon to be 8),one of which came against a Vikings team playing with 17th string QB.


Put Desean Jackson in the Packer hall of fame.

The mental gymnastics you perform to come up with these kinds of "what if" scenarios has to be exhausting....

"What if Brandon Bostick doesn't **** the bed on one play and the Packers go on to beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl?"

With the Bostick thing I tend not to think why didn't he catch it so much as to why did our great coaching staff have a scrub player who had a reputation for not flowing his assignments on the field in such a critical situation.

[Flames24Rulz]

He won a Super Bowl 5 years ago you ****.

But seriously,it's scary to think that if Desean Jackson didn't run that punt back for a TD against the Giants week 15 in 2010 and everything else in the world remained the same from 2008 until this very moment,the Rodgers/McCarthy/TT era would be an absolute abortion.

2008 6-10 no playoffs
2009 one and done,defense gives up 51pts to a geriatric Kurt Warner in the playoffs.
2010 no playoffs
2011 only team to go 15-1 and 0-1 in the playoffs and didn't just lose,but got humiliated at home in the playoffs.
2012 Defense didn't show up in a playoff game AGIAN,Kaepernick is still running.
2013 One and done in the playoffs AGIAN.
2014 If there was a choke that was the most epic choke of all chokes,in a championship game no less,would you expect it NOT to be the Rodgers/MM/TT era Packers?
2015 We lost to the **** 4-6 Bears at home on Favre night,and I'm sure something epic is still in store.

The most sobering thing is that would be only 2 playoff wins in 7 seasons (soon to be 8),one of which came against a Vikings team playing with 17th string QB.


Put Desean Jackson in the Packer hall of fame.

Holy hell, was a remark like that really necessary? I realize he won the Super Bowl five years ago. I've also given him a five year pass to not criticize his job security or anything like that because of winning the Super Bowl. But if his message has grown stale and if guys have gone complacent on this team, the question should be brought up.

All I'm saying is a little accountability in this organization from time to time would be nice. Capers should've been fired for the Kaepernick game alone in 2012 for admitting that they spent about 10 minutes on defending the read option during the lead up to that game. Yet he's still here.

This team better still make the playoffs because if not, they'd be on a real short list of teams to not make the playoffs after going 6-0 to start the year. Hell, the 2008 Bucs were 9-3, lost every game in December and ended up firing their coach that won the Super Bowl five years prior.

An offense with Aaron Rodgers at QB should not be anywhere close to one of the worst offenses in the league. Yet, here we are.

I was being sarcastic,I actually agree with you.

That was a jab at the Packer homers who always bring up 2010 every time someone is critical of Mike McCarthy.

Gotcha. I was right there with you in 2010 wanting him fired after the Detroit loss. I'm glad I was wrong about that, but he definitely deserves some criticism for what's been going on the last month.

[Outlander]

It seems to be mentioned a lot that the Packers would have missed the playoffs without the Desean Jackson touchdown but I don't see what would have changed. Are people just assuming there is no way the Packers would have beat the Giants at their place even though the Packers killed them just a couple of weeks prior.

[trwi7]

It seems to be mentioned a lot that the Packers would have missed the playoffs without the Desean Jackson touchdown but I don't see what would have changed. Are people just assuming there is no way the Packers would have beat the Giants at their place even though the Packers killed them just a couple of weeks prior.

The Packers wouldn't have made the playoffs. That's actually what I thought because I remember us rooting for a 3 way tiebreaker because we were going to lose a two team tiebreak to Tampa but looking at it now there was no head to head matchup, both teams had the same record in conference, there weren't 4 common games and the common games both teams had the same record anyways and we kicked the **** out of them in strength of victory, so I think we would've gotten in anyways, unless I'm missing something.

[Flames24Rulz]

It seems to be mentioned a lot that the Packers would have missed the playoffs without the Desean Jackson touchdown but I don't see what would have changed. Are people just assuming there is no way the Packers would have beat the Giants at their place even though the Packers killed them just a couple of weeks prior.

The Packers wouldn't have made the playoffs. That's actually what I thought because I remember us rooting for a 3 way tiebreaker because we were going to lose a two team tiebreak to Tampa but looking at it now there was no head to head matchup, both teams had the same record in conference, there weren't 4 common games and the common games both teams had the same record anyways and we kicked the **** out of them in strength of victory, so I think we would've gotten in anyways, unless I'm missing something.

I honestly have no idea how we would've lost the tiebreaker either, but we didn't control our own destiny until the Jackson PR TD happened.

I remember both the Giants and the Bucs needed us to lose in Week 17 for one of them to make the playoffs. Tampa gagged a game at home against Detroit down the stretch too (might have been the same day as the Jackson PR) that helped us control our own destiny.

Regardless, I felt infinitely more confident in that 2010 team heading down the stretch than I did in this year's team, record be damned. Every one of those games that we lost, we probably could have won. We got as healthy as we possibly could have those last few weeks of the season too (obviously, IR guys be damned) and the defense was a top defense in the league. Remember what they did in both those Giants and Bears games at the end of the season? Eli threw 4 or 5 INT's and then they held the Bears to 3 points in Week 17. Not to mention Rodgers had his full arsenal at WR with Jennings-Jordy-Driver-Jones all out there.

Things can certainly change -- a month ago, we were sitting pretty at 6-0. Hopefully Thursday marks the beginning of a good stretch, but I think even if we win, it's going to look extremely ugly in doing so.

[KidA24]

The situation:
After Week 15, the Giants were 9-5, Packers were 8-6 and they still had to play each other in Week 16. Had the Eagles not beaten them, they would've been 10-4 and the Eagles would've been 9-5 (and they had a better SOV than the Packers) and Green Bay would not have controlled their own destiny (and would've lost any tiebreaker involving the Eagles).