PC Board OT thread

[Dr Spaceman]

And I really like Justice Winslow, but this is just getting stupid now.

Yeah, honestly I think we already have too many player threads. I would limit it to top 5-10 players in the league. Even Eric Bledsoe thread that I created, has only 1 reply so far, in two weeks, and Bledsoe is playing like a legitimate star this season.

I mean I can barely keep the Kawhi Leonard thread afloat and he's probably 3rd in the MVP race right now.

Justise Winslow and Bradley Beal top out as borderline all-stars. We don't need to document their every move.

PS. Chuck, please please please do start the Zaza thread

[Dr Spaceman]

And I really like Justice Winslow, but this is just getting stupid now.

Yeah, honestly I think we already have too many player threads. I would limit it to top 5-10 players in the league. Even Eric Bledsoe thread that I created, has only 1 reply so far, in two weeks, and Bledsoe is playing like a legitimate star this season.

How would you guys feel about a "prospects" thread? We could keep players like Beal, Zinger, and Winslow stashed there and probably have a way more active thread.

[Knosh]

And if I see one or two more silly player threads on here, I swear I will start a Zaza thread and just post vines of him knocking people down and diving on the floor and pumping his fist.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=1415902#start_here

Time to engage Zaza thread.


And I really like Justice Winslow, but this is just getting stupid now.

I'd actually be interested to hear what people think of Zaza. His RPM last season was 4.8. That's 2nd among centers and 16th overall. I didn't really take that seriously, but this season he is up there again (3.88 RPM, 4th among centers, 17th overall) and watching all of his games this season, I'm actually pretty impressed. So is RPM just overrating Zaza or is he actually that good? Where would you guys rank him among centers?

[Dr Spaceman]

The Kobe thread has turned to almost all trolling, and the player threads are just crazy.

That was rough to see, especially the backhanded compliments like "hate him and here are 57 reasons he sucks, but oh yeah he's retiring and I respect him." I think we've passed a threshold now where it's pretty asinine to malign the guy now that he's publicly acknowledged his body is done, assuming he can apply that on the court.

[SideshowBob]

I started the player threads both to reduce clutter/keep discussion in a single place AND for posterity's sake, as we could look back on commentary/criticism and contrast with contemporary opinion. Its funny to see so many of them now, I figured they'd only be necessary for the more popular/polarizing players. That still seems to be the case, I'd let whoever wants to make them go for it and let supply/demand sort it out. Most of them tend to fade into oblivion anyway, I think last year only one player got multiple threads as the site-wide post count for a page went up (in 2013 and 14 multiple players had multiple threads).

[Texas Chuck]

I started the player threads both to reduce clutter/keep discussion in a single place AND for posterity's sake, as we could look back on commentary/criticism and contrast with contemporary opinion. Its funny to see so many of them now, I figured they'd only be necessary for the more popular/polarizing players. That still seems to be the case, I'd let whoever wants to make them go for it and let supply/demand sort it out. Most of them tend to fade into oblivion anyway, I think last year only one player got multiple threads as the site-wide post count for a page went up (in 2013 and 14 multiple players had multiple threads).

yeah you are probably right. I definitely love the idea of containment threads on the most talked about players rather than having new threads on topics that probably don't need their own thread and these silly ones should take care of themselves.

Just today seeing half the first page being player threads, it felt a bit much. Especially considering some of the players who have one.

[PaulieWal]

So I turn on the Rox-Detroit game as I am quickly browsing the games on tonight, Ilyasova draws a foul after he gets his guy in the air and he jumps into him and then the Rox announcers go on this rant about how they are not a fan of these kinda fouls and it's not fair when players jump into others and play for the foul and I am just thinking your best player relies on that for his offense primarily. I don't know, just found the whole incident quite amusing.

[JulesWinnfield]

The East sweeps the West tonight 4-0 in head to head play. It included a Bulls victory over the Spurs and a Hawks defeat of the Thunder. The East leads the West 45-42 in head to head play this year (44-29 excluding the 76ers and Nets).

The obligatory "it's early", but I don't think this type of balance is unsustainable. The East is clearly deeper than it has been in a while and the West has taken a step back (though its still very strong at the top).

[Texas Chuck]

In my continuing Zaza notes-- they casually mentioned in the broadcast he's 17th in FTA (and already has at least 6 FTA in the first half). It's an aspect of his game I didn't notice until I watched him every night. He's quite the crafty offensive guy for being a bit of a bruising guy.

[Dr Spaceman]

Not exactly my thing to rip on coaches, but Fred Hoiberg made one of the most atrocious coaching decisions possible last night. Joakim Noah was in peak 2013 form, literally, like dribbling around the perimeter finding back door cutters and challenging at the rim Noah. Bulls were on a 9-0 run with 2 of his assists and Fred freaking pulls him from the game for Gasol with 6 minutes left in the 4th. The Bulls did not score a single field goal the rest of the game.

The funniest thing is I think he realized his mistake because he tried to put Noah back in, but left him in with Gasol so he was mostly just chilling around the baseline, and by that time the energy was gone. Noah was seriously fired up at one point, guns and airplane celebrations and trash talking and all, looked exactly like the energetic and tenacious Noah we used to see.

[Quotatious]

So I turn on the Rox-Detroit game as I am quickly browsing the games on tonight, Ilyasova draws a foul after he gets his guy in the air and he jumps into him and then the Rox announcers go on this rant about how they are not a fan of these kinda fouls and it's not fair when players jump into others and play for the foul and I am just thinking your best player relies on that for his offense primarily. I don't know, just found the whole incident quite amusing.

That's like Iverson or Kobe accusing other guards of taking bad shots. Or like Laimbeer or Bowen complaining to refs about opponents using dirty tricks on defense.

[bondom34]

So I turn on the Rox-Detroit game as I am quickly browsing the games on tonight, Ilyasova draws a foul after he gets his guy in the air and he jumps into him and then the Rox announcers go on this rant about how they are not a fan of these kinda fouls and it's not fair when players jump into others and play for the foul and I am just thinking your best player relies on that for his offense primarily. I don't know, just found the whole incident quite amusing.

That's like Iverson or Kobe accusing other guards of taking bad shots.

They complained in the first Knicks game about this foul on Harden:

[Quotatious]

So I turn on the Rox-Detroit game as I am quickly browsing the games on tonight, Ilyasova draws a foul after he gets his guy in the air and he jumps into him and then the Rox announcers go on this rant about how they are not a fan of these kinda fouls and it's not fair when players jump into others and play for the foul and I am just thinking your best player relies on that for his offense primarily. I don't know, just found the whole incident quite amusing.

That's like Iverson or Kobe accusing other guards of taking bad shots.

They complained in the first Knicks game about this foul on Harden:

Harden thought he was a football player, there's no other explanation for this.

[Clyde Frazier]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/TheCauldron/status/671881290036224000[/tweet]

[Quotatious]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/TheCauldron/status/671881290036224000[/tweet]

Wow...Reminds me a lot of the way young Vince Carter dunked.

[Texas Chuck]

More Zaza giggles (on top of his yawn 14 point 21 rebound night):

Zaza Pachulia, who tied a career-high with 21 rebounds, said he gave Nowitzki a few pointers on that tip-in.
"I teach him," Pachulia said with a laugh. "Dirk getting putbacks. You can always learn something. It's never (too) late to learn. He's learning at age 37. I just told him to get good position and push guys around. That's exactly what he did."

He and Dirk love playing together already.

[Dr Spaceman]

So I genuinely thought Kobe's retirement announcement meant he was going to take a step back realizing he wasn't capable of being Kobe anymore. Holy hell was I wrong. 17 threes? What the hell is wrong with you?

I'm not happy with the constant trolling and disparaging going on around here right now, but this is a different thing. He absolutely deserves to be lambasted for this crap.

[Texas Chuck]

So I genuinely thought Kobe's retirement announcement meant he was going to take a step back realizing he wasn't capable of being Kobe anymore. Holy hell was I wrong. 17 threes? What the hell is wrong with you?

I'm not happy with the constant trolling and disparaging going on around here right now, but this is a different thing. He absolutely deserves to be lambasted for this crap.

I'm giving him a slight pass just because it was Philly and the crowd actually was with him for once. Plus we know what happens when he hits them early.....

But really if his coach has already made it clear he has no intention of reining him in any and the organization desperately wants to keep that pick they owe Philly, Kobe is actually doing the right thing in taking a bunch of shots. Fans everywhere want to see him play and shoot and it makes the Lakers bad.

The potential downside is if it hampers the development of Randle and Russell but frankly I don't trust Scott with that job regardless of Kobe.

[Dr Spaceman]

So I genuinely thought Kobe's retirement announcement meant he was going to take a step back realizing he wasn't capable of being Kobe anymore. Holy hell was I wrong. 17 threes? What the hell is wrong with you?

I'm not happy with the constant trolling and disparaging going on around here right now, but this is a different thing. He absolutely deserves to be lambasted for this crap.

I'm giving him a slight pass just because it was Philly and the crowd actually was with him for once. Plus we know what happens when he hits them early.....

But really if his coach has already made it clear he has no intention of reining him in any and the organization desperately wants to keep that pick they owe Philly, Kobe is actually doing the right thing in taking a bunch of shots. Fans everywhere want to see him play and shoot and it makes the Lakers bad.

The potential downside is if it hampers the development of Randle and Russell but frankly I don't trust Scott with that job regardless of Kobe.

Fair enough. Although there's quite a bit of development that goes well beyond what Byron or any coach can provide IMO. It's not just learning how to play basketball, it's learning how to be "the guy". How to pace yourself to handle 35 minutes in a game. How to survive the grind of an 80 game season. How to deal with the pressures and expectations put on you every night. These guys are missing out on that because right now Kobe has forced himself into that role, and even if the guys progress in a basketball sense from here they're still IMO way behind conpared to Wiggins and Towns, for example who are right now at the perfect intersection of basketball AND personal development.

[bondom34]

So after last night's debacle he goes off vs. the Wizards leading them to a win. What a game man, what a game.