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Game 18: Phoenix Suns (8-9) @ Brooklyn Nets (4-13)

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Re: Game 18: Phoenix Suns (8-9) @ Brooklyn Nets (4-13) 

Post#201 » by bwgood77 » Wed Dec 2, 2015 2:53 am

alldayeveryday wrote:Great draw up Hornacek. Great draw up.

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Well it doesn't help that our players are falling down. I mean wtf was that? I gotta admit good D by the Nets though.
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Re: Game 18: Phoenix Suns (8-9) @ Brooklyn Nets (4-13) 

Post#202 » by bwgood77 » Wed Dec 2, 2015 2:54 am

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Matt1979 wrote:Why the he'll isn't Leuer at PF? He's automatic with the 3 at the top of the arc. Teletovic is way better than Kieff on offence.


I don't know why Len would be in at the end. Put Leuer and Telly at 4 and 5.


I guess for screens.
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Re: Game 18: Phoenix Suns (8-9) @ Brooklyn Nets (4-13) 

Post#203 » by Cutter » Wed Dec 2, 2015 2:54 am

Len with an awesome game. Knight had great stats, but frankly is a liability defensively.

Let's see Len consistently get minutes and see what he can do.
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Re: Game 18: Phoenix Suns (8-9) @ Brooklyn Nets (4-13) 

Post#204 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Dec 2, 2015 2:55 am

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Re: Game 18: Phoenix Suns (8-9) @ Brooklyn Nets (4-13) 

Post#205 » by kennydorglas » Wed Dec 2, 2015 2:55 am

Holy crap... WTF was this last play?
I'm rewatching this bogus over and over again... maybe trying to figure it out what was the point here.

This loss is completely on Hornacek.
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Re: Game 18: Phoenix Suns (8-9) @ Brooklyn Nets (4-13) 

Post#206 » by RaisingArizona » Wed Dec 2, 2015 2:56 am

Cutter wrote:Len with an awesome game. Knight had great stats, but frankly is a liability defensively.

Let's see Len consistently get minutes and see what he can do.

Yeah, his missed layup at the cup with 28 seconds left was awesome.
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Re: Game 18: Phoenix Suns (8-9) @ Brooklyn Nets (4-13) 

Post#207 » by Saberestar » Wed Dec 2, 2015 2:57 am

bwgood77 wrote:I really think that offensive charge on Kieff may have cost us the game. And how was Knight not fouled on that last shot attempt?

This is ALL on Hornacek. He doesn't run a single play for Warren, and he is consistent with give the ball to Markieff in the post or on a pick&roll play. It's not working...we are 18 games in the season, but he continues with the same mentality.

I am done with Hornacek. He doesn't have the personality that is required to be a good HC in the NBA. At least now, I don't know if he can be a good one with more experience, probably he would be better like an assistant.
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Re: Game 18: Phoenix Suns (8-9) @ Brooklyn Nets (4-13) 

Post#208 » by RaisingArizona » Wed Dec 2, 2015 2:57 am

Westphal?
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Re: Game 18: Phoenix Suns (8-9) @ Brooklyn Nets (4-13) 

Post#209 » by Mulhollanddrive » Wed Dec 2, 2015 2:59 am

Ryan McDonough is the only one in our organisation with a winning mentality, because he's actually been part of a championship.

Everyone else seems to revolve around being good enough to make their $.
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Re: Game 18: Phoenix Suns (8-9) @ Brooklyn Nets (4-13) 

Post#210 » by KLEON » Wed Dec 2, 2015 2:59 am

How many f*cking times Jeff is going make these mistakes. Play Leuer in crunch time so that he can stretch the floor. Also where the hell was Warren.
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Post#211 » by Paradise » Wed Dec 2, 2015 3:00 am

JellyRolling wrote:Wtf was that. I've seen better executions from wnba players.

It was actually a solid play drawn up. It was supposed to be a Teletovic hand off to Brandon Knight off the inbounds since Jack is an awful defender. Hollins then countered with Hollis-Jefferson who disrupted Teletovic from catching the ball and blew up the play.

You guys got a good coach. Definitely jealous.
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Re: Game 18: Phoenix Suns (8-9) @ Brooklyn Nets (4-13) 

Post#212 » by schnakenpopanz » Wed Dec 2, 2015 3:01 am

two things changed momentum. Suns were up 6 or 9 and started playing WITHOUT ball movement. These shots were bad all along. No screens, no pick and rolls, just dribbling dribbling and no idea what to do.
and secondly the awesome substitution putting morris back in.
Man i am so unlucky to witnessed steve nash years ago. So i know that smartness is way more important then flexing your muscles or jacking up shots.
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Re: Game 18: Phoenix Suns (8-9) @ Brooklyn Nets (4-13) 

Post#213 » by KLEON » Wed Dec 2, 2015 3:02 am

Cutter wrote:Len with an awesome game. Knight had great stats, but frankly is a liability defensively.

Let's see Len consistently get minutes and see what he can do.

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Re: Game 18: Phoenix Suns (8-9) @ Brooklyn Nets (4-13) 

Post#214 » by bwgood77 » Wed Dec 2, 2015 3:02 am

ginobiliflops wrote:Westphal?


No, believe me. He REALLY sucks. Cotton built those teams he took over.
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Re: Game 18: Phoenix Suns (8-9) @ Brooklyn Nets (4-13) 

Post#215 » by Mulhollanddrive » Wed Dec 2, 2015 3:02 am

We're 8th seed, so we're achieving what we want.
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Re: Game 18: Phoenix Suns (8-9) @ Brooklyn Nets (4-13) 

Post#216 » by Jdiddy701 » Wed Dec 2, 2015 3:02 am

Been saying it all season Warren should be getting 30-40 minutes a game. He's our best player behind our two guards. Jeff loves him some PJ brick Tucker.


18 mins for Warren is just STUPID.


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Re: Game 18: Phoenix Suns (8-9) @ Brooklyn Nets (4-13) 

Post#217 » by bwgood77 » Wed Dec 2, 2015 3:07 am

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bwgood77 wrote:I really think that offensive charge on Kieff may have cost us the game. And how was Knight not fouled on that last shot attempt?

This is ALL on Hornacek. He doesn't run a single play for Warren, and he is consistent with give the ball to Markieff in the post or on a pick&roll play. It's not working...we are 18 games in the season, but he continues with the same mentality.

I am done with Hornacek. He doesn't have the personality that is required to be a good HC in the NBA. At least now, I don't know if he can be a good one with more experience, probably he would be better like an assistant.


I really don't know what the deal is with Markieff. If there is an ultimatum to play him for trade purposes or something. But there were other parts of the game that were just sloppy dumb hero ball by Bledsoe, some stupid turnovers and that silly charge.

I'm not saying Hornacek isn't to blame for a lot of it.

And I do think that team has decent talent. I think with Tyson we win. But they had the better C, the PFs both played awful, but Young is decent, probably better overall than Kieff. Rondae Hollis Jefferson is better than Tucker, and our guards are better.

We both have ok benches...you would think our's is better but their's crushed ours the first time they came in and we had to climb back into it so I'm sure it was tough to go back to them.
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Re: Game 18: Phoenix Suns (8-9) @ Brooklyn Nets (4-13) 

Post#218 » by bwgood77 » Wed Dec 2, 2015 3:08 am

schnakenpopanz wrote:two things changed momentum. Suns were up 6 or 9 and started playing WITHOUT ball movement. These shots were bad all along. No screens, no pick and rolls, just dribbling dribbling and no idea what to do.
and secondly the awesome substitution putting morris back in.
Man i am so unlucky to witnessed steve nash years ago. So i know that smartness is way more important then flexing your muscles or jacking up shots.


Honestly it's a lot easier to coach smart players than dumb ones. And we are very few on smart players, especially when Tyson is out.
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Post#219 » by bwgood77 » Wed Dec 2, 2015 3:09 am

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JellyRolling wrote:Wtf was that. I've seen better executions from wnba players.

It was actually a solid play drawn up. It was supposed to be a Teletovic hand off to Brandon Knight off the inbounds since Jack is an awful defender. Hollins then countered with Hollis-Jefferson who disrupted Teletovic from catching the ball and blew up the play.

You guys got a good coach. Definitely jealous.


Are you saying you don't like Hollins? How you liking yourself some RHJ?
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Re: Game 18: Phoenix Suns (8-9) @ Brooklyn Nets (4-13) 

Post#220 » by LukasBMW » Wed Dec 2, 2015 3:15 am

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