Official Trade Thread - Part XXIX

[gambitx777]

We should make some moves sooner than later, Morris would be nice at this point and he should not kill the KD2DC (pipe) dream

[benb331]

I was thinking about Grunfeld trading what could have been The draft rights to Steph Curry in exchange for two expiring contracts.

I think about that every time I read/hear the words "Golden State", "Warriors", "Steph", "Curry", "Foye", and "Mike Miller" - so basically 3-4x per day with all these GSW headlines. Introduced my wife to Wizards fandom during our little glimmer of hope season last year, and she got too excited and optimistic. Is now learning what it's really like to root for this franchise .

[Slartibartfast]

I wonder if a future pick/Webster DPE for Jared Sullinger deal would work for both parties. Boston has a logjam of bigs and may not be interested in signing Sully long-term, and Washington would probably like to have a quality RFA PF option like Sully with his relatively small cap hold during their pursuit of KD.

[dckingsfan]

I wonder if a future pick/Webster DPE for Jared Sullinger deal would work for both parties. Boston has a logjam of bigs and may not be interested in signing Sully long-term, and Washington would probably like to have a quality RFA PF option like Sully with his relatively small cap hold during their pursuit of KD.

I think we will stick with what we have this season to see if we are in on the KD2DC craze. Unless it is a second round pick, I don't see us making any moves - guessing they are saving first rounders for a sign&trade scenario.

[thricethefun]

I would like to trade Beal, Gortat, Blair, and Gooden for Deandre Jordan and JJ Reddick.

[nate33]

I wonder if a future pick/Webster DPE for Jared Sullinger deal would work for both parties. Boston has a logjam of bigs and may not be interested in signing Sully long-term, and Washington would probably like to have a quality RFA PF option like Sully with his relatively small cap hold during their pursuit of KD.

I think that logjam you are referencing is exactly why I wouldn't pull the trigger on such a deal. Some of Boston's RFA's are going to be obtainable in the offseason. If Sullinger is the guy we want, I'd just wait until the offseason to go after him.

[dangermouse]

I wonder if a future pick/Webster DPE for Jared Sullinger deal would work for both parties. Boston has a logjam of bigs and may not be interested in signing Sully long-term, and Washington would probably like to have a quality RFA PF option like Sully with his relatively small cap hold during their pursuit of KD.

I think that logjam you are referencing is exactly why I wouldn't pull the trigger on such a deal. Some of Boston's RFA's are going to be obtainable in the offseason. If Sullinger is the guy we want, I'd just wait until the offseason to go after him.

This, no point giving up assets in that situation. Id love any of their three young bigs tbh, Olynyk, Sully or Zeller.

[stevemcqueen1]

I wonder if a future pick/Webster DPE for Jared Sullinger deal would work for both parties. Boston has a logjam of bigs and may not be interested in signing Sully long-term, and Washington would probably like to have a quality RFA PF option like Sully with his relatively small cap hold during their pursuit of KD.

I guess it'd depend on the nature of the pick we'd have to trade, but if I were the Wizards GM, I would probably pull the trigger on the deal.

I'm a fan of Sullinger.

[stevemcqueen1]

I wonder if a future pick/Webster DPE for Jared Sullinger deal would work for both parties. Boston has a logjam of bigs and may not be interested in signing Sully long-term, and Washington would probably like to have a quality RFA PF option like Sully with his relatively small cap hold during their pursuit of KD.

I think that logjam you are referencing is exactly why I wouldn't pull the trigger on such a deal. Some of Boston's RFA's are going to be obtainable in the offseason. If Sullinger is the guy we want, I'd just wait until the offseason to go after him.

If you trade for Sullinger, he could help us now, and then we would control his RFA rights.

[Ruzious]

I wonder if a future pick/Webster DPE for Jared Sullinger deal would work for both parties. Boston has a logjam of bigs and may not be interested in signing Sully long-term, and Washington would probably like to have a quality RFA PF option like Sully with his relatively small cap hold during their pursuit of KD.

I guess it'd depend on the nature of the pick we'd have to trade, but if I were the Wizards GM, I would probably pull the trigger on the deal.

I'm a fan of Sullinger.

Sullinger would be a nice pick-up, but I don't think we have the assets to get him.

[fishercob]

I wonder if a future pick/Webster DPE for Jared Sullinger deal would work for both parties. Boston has a logjam of bigs and may not be interested in signing Sully long-term, and Washington would probably like to have a quality RFA PF option like Sully with his relatively small cap hold during their pursuit of KD.

I think that logjam you are referencing is exactly why I wouldn't pull the trigger on such a deal. Some of Boston's RFA's are going to be obtainable in the offseason. If Sullinger is the guy we want, I'd just wait until the offseason to go after him.

Not sure I agree. Part of Sullinger's value is in his cheap cap hold. I'd consider some sort of pick consideration to bring him in now.

[payitforward]

I wonder if a future pick/Webster DPE for Jared Sullinger deal would work for both parties. Boston has a logjam of bigs and may not be interested in signing Sully long-term, and Washington would probably like to have a quality RFA PF option like Sully with his relatively small cap hold during their pursuit of KD.

I think that logjam you are referencing is exactly why I wouldn't pull the trigger on such a deal. Some of Boston's RFA's are going to be obtainable in the offseason. If Sullinger is the guy we want, I'd just wait until the offseason to go after him.

Not sure I agree. Part of Sullinger's value is in his cheap cap hold. I'd consider some sort of pick consideration to bring him in now.

It goes w/o saying that it would be great to have him. He's a young big who's playing well and coming into his own. Only thing is I'm not seeing any reason whatever that they'd want to trade him.

For one thing, I'm not seeing this "logjam of bigs." They have Zeller, Olynyk, Sully & Mickey. Lee will be gone, and so very likely would Amir Johnson.

The C's have 8 promising young players under contract for next year for a total of $28m. I imagine Crowder will be re-signed as well. If both Zeller and Sullinger are signed, that'll still leave them with tons of cap room. Why would they want to trade talent away for Webster and a pick?

[fishercob]

I think that logjam you are referencing is exactly why I wouldn't pull the trigger on such a deal. Some of Boston's RFA's are going to be obtainable in the offseason. If Sullinger is the guy we want, I'd just wait until the offseason to go after him.

Not sure I agree. Part of Sullinger's value is in his cheap cap hold. I'd consider some sort of pick consideration to bring him in now.

It goes w/o saying that it would be great to have him. He's a young big who's playing well and coming into his own. Only thing is I'm not seeing any reason whatever that they'd want to trade him.

For one thing, I'm not seeing this "logjam of bigs." They have Zeller, Olynyk, Sully & Mickey. Lee will be gone, and so very likely would Amir Johnson.

The C's have 8 promising young players under contract for next year for a total of $28m. I imagine Crowder will be re-signed as well. If both Zeller and Sullinger are signed, that'll still leave them with tons of cap room. Why would they want to trade talent away for Webster and a pick?

I had forgotten that Johnson was a team option for next year. Damn it must be fun rooting for a team with competent management. Crowder signed a long term deal last summer; his camp number is about $6.3M next year.

[nate33]

I had forgotten that Johnson was a team option for next year. Damn it must be fun rooting for a team with competent management. Crowder signed a long term deal last summer; his camp number is about $6.3M next year.

Yeah, Ainge does a real nice job. He is one of the best, most consistent GM's around. In a way, his only problem is that he is too good at his job. The Celtics never get bad enough to land top talent in the high end of the lottery.

Imagine what Ainge would have done if he took over the reigns in DC in 2010.

[fishercob]

I had forgotten that Johnson was a team option for next year. Damn it must be fun rooting for a team with competent management. Crowder signed a long term deal last summer; his camp number is about $6.3M next year.

Yeah, Ainge does a real nice job. He is one of the best, most consistent GM's around. In a way, his only problem is that he is too good at his job. The Celtics never get bad enough to land top talent in the high end of the lottery.

Imagine what Ainge would have done if he took over the reigns in DC in 2010.

The Celtics don't need to be bad. They can let the Nets do that.

[nate33]

I had forgotten that Johnson was a team option for next year. Damn it must be fun rooting for a team with competent management. Crowder signed a long term deal last summer; his camp number is about $6.3M next year.

Yeah, Ainge does a real nice job. He is one of the best, most consistent GM's around. In a way, his only problem is that he is too good at his job. The Celtics never get bad enough to land top talent in the high end of the lottery.

Imagine what Ainge would have done if he took over the reigns in DC in 2010.

The Celtics don't need to be bad. They can let the Nets do that.

True.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I had forgotten that Johnson was a team option for next year. Damn it must be fun rooting for a team with competent management. Crowder signed a long term deal last summer; his camp number is about $6.3M next year.

Yeah, Ainge does a real nice job. He is one of the best, most consistent GM's around. In a way, his only problem is that he is too good at his job. The Celtics never get bad enough to land top talent in the high end of the lottery.

Imagine what Ainge would have done if he took over the reigns in DC in 2010.

My hope: new GM

--Danny Ferry
--Perhaps Troy Weaver

--Let them hire Luke Walton or maybe Steve Nash. It's time for someone new!

The last 5 years have yielded Wall, Gortat at a price, Beal if he is to be resigned for too much, and promising Otto Porter.

Milellie111 won't do this, but if you look at what Golden State did and compare EG, it's beyond frustrating. What Boston got for old Pierce and old Garnett were steals. Letting Rondo go was amazing.

The most depressing part is I foresee Ted giving EG even more years. Wittman might not be around much longer but this GM is thoroughly entrenched.

[robbie84]

trade 1:
Celtics send: Amir Johnson+Jonas Jerebko+ 2nd round pick.

Washington sends: Nene, Oubre Jr.

trade 2:

Celtics send Sullinger, David Lee.

Wizards send: Nene, Oubre Jr.

[payitforward]

Those are a couple of pretty bad trades for us, huh? The first amounts to Oubre for Jerebko and a R2 pick, which is plain silly. The 2d amounts to Oubre for Sullinger, which I suppose you could make an argument for, but... no thanks.

[dckingsfan]

If we get close to the trade deadline and it is clear we are not playoff bound, do we trade Beal?