Official Draft Thread 2015-16

[No-Man]

if Selden can shoot he's an NBA 3/D guard with 3 position switch defense potential - so, totally a guy working his way back toward the 1st round.

Long way to go before the draft. Might be that one of Hunter/Rozier ends up being tacked onto a trade package between now and then.

He reminds me of Wes Matthews. That's pretty much his ceiling.

Agreed
By the way Poeltl is really good, like for a 20 year old with his numbers, physique and poise, rare to see especially when he was not even a major prospect back in Europe, he has improve almost +30% in his FT in one off season too, hitting +70 right now, shooting 8.6 per game.
He has ways to go, but man, very promising, best C in the draft hands down.
Dunn looks more and more like a less athletic Westbrook, especially with the way he attacks and how he has a midrange game and stuff the statsheet.

[ddb]

if Selden can shoot he's an NBA 3/D guard with 3 position switch defense potential - so, totally a guy working his way back toward the 1st round.

Long way to go before the draft. Might be that one of Hunter/Rozier ends up being tacked onto a trade package between now and then.

He reminds me of Wes Matthews. That's pretty much his ceiling.

Agreed
By the way Poeltl is really good, like for a 20 year old with his numbers, physique and poise, rare to see especially when he was not even a major prospect back in Europe, he has improve almost +30% in his FT in one off season too, hitting +70 right now, shooting 8.6 per game.
He has ways to go, but man, very promising, best C in the draft hands down.
Dunn looks more and more like a less athletic Westbrook, especially with the way he attacks and how he has a midrange game and stuff the statsheet.

I LOVE Simmons & Dunn, with Ingram as my 3rd favorite prospect in this draft

[LobCityRondo2KG]

Simmons was godly last night

[Ben-N1ce]

Simmons was godly last night

Ben Simmons is the only major conference player in the last 20 seasons with at least 40 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists & 5 steals in a game.

[ddb]

I'm hearing from a few bball ops execs that I know that the top 3 prospects in this draft in terms of star potential are Simmons, Dunn and Ingram. I'd have to agree. I love all 3 and would be happy with any of those guys in Celtics green.

Simmons- LeBron type
Ingram- Durant type
Dunn- Wade type, but with more PG skills

[165bows]

Damion Lee looks like he could play NBA ball, watching Louisville-Michigan State last night. I'd guess he shows up on mock drafts before draft time.

[klemen4]

Where is the line where quality drops?

If this 3 are top guys, can we add someone to this group or are we already talking about 2nd level in quality.

For instance in Smart draft Wiggins/Parker/Embid very clear top 3, 2nd level was Exum, Smart, Randle...close to them was Gordon. After that big drop down.

This years draft was different...Towns/Okafor imo were 1./2. after that was kind of wide open and draft went based on needs.

[jmr07019]

Where is the line where quality drops?

If this 3 are top guys, can we add someone to this group or are we already talking about 2nd level in quality.

For instance in Smart draft Wiggins/Parker/Embid very clear top 3, 2nd level was Exum, Smart, Randle...close to them was Gordon. After that big drop down.

This years draft was different...Towns/Okafor imo were 1./2. after that was kind of wide open and draft went based on needs.

looks like it will be Simmons and then everybody else

[klemen4]

looks like it will be Simmons and then everybody else

Ok, yes..this I know

What about Labissiere, Bender, Brown, Murra?

[Slartibartfast]

looks like it will be Simmons and then everybody else

Ok, yes..this I know

What about Labissiere, Bender, Brown, Murra?

I think Skal, Bender, Ingram and Brown are all together on that 2nd tier. Then Murray, Dunn, Poeltl and some others a tier below.

[BfB]

I'm hearing from a few bball ops execs that I know that the top 3 prospects in this draft in terms of star potential are Simmons, Dunn and Ingram. I'd have to agree. I love all 3 and would be happy with any of those guys in Celtics green.

Simmons- LeBron type
Ingram- Durant type
Dunn- Wade type, but with more PG skills

Gonna go out on a limb right now and say none of these guys are franchise players - Ingrim is a bust waiting to happen, Simmons is "point-forward Rondo", Dunn is a legit scorer.

These 3 combined will make less All Star games than any one of those comparisons, i'd bet.

[Edug27]

Simmons or try and trade the pick.

[jmr07019]

looks like it will be Simmons and then everybody else

Ok, yes..this I know

What about Labissiere, Bender, Brown, Murra?

I think Skal, Bender, Ingram and Brown are all together on that 2nd tier. Then Murray, Dunn, Poeltl and some others a tier below.

Poeltl I think will be in tier 2 when all is said and done. Shame he didn't come out last year I think we could have gotten him at 16 or maybe a spot or two higher if necessary.

I need to see more of Skal, Ingram, bender Dunn and brown but I think one will emerge as a Wiggins / Towns level prospect.

Simmons seems to be a step above Wiggins and Towns.

[165bows]

I'm hearing from a few bball ops execs that I know that the top 3 prospects in this draft in terms of star potential are Simmons, Dunn and Ingram. I'd have to agree. I love all 3 and would be happy with any of those guys in Celtics green.

Simmons- LeBron type
Ingram- Durant type
Dunn- Wade type, but with more PG skills

Gonna go out on a limb right now and say none of these guys are franchise players - Ingrim is a bust waiting to happen, Simmons is "point-forward Rondo", Dunn is a legit scorer.

These 3 combined will make less All Star games than any one of those comparisons, i'd bet.

I tend to agree, the top section of this draft is looking a bit a
weak. Won't be surprised to see half the top 6 or so of the mocks to get swapped out by seasons' end.

[Duke4life831]

Simmons or try and trade the pick.

This should be all teams thought process for this draft. This has the looking to be one of the worst drafts in recent memory

[BfB]

I'm hearing from a few bball ops execs that I know that the top 3 prospects in this draft in terms of star potential are Simmons, Dunn and Ingram. I'd have to agree. I love all 3 and would be happy with any of those guys in Celtics green.

Simmons- LeBron type
Ingram- Durant type
Dunn- Wade type, but with more PG skills

Gonna go out on a limb right now and say none of these guys are franchise players - Ingrim is a bust waiting to happen, Simmons is "point-forward Rondo", Dunn is a legit scorer.

These 3 combined will make less All Star games than any one of those comparisons, i'd bet.

I tend to agree, the top section of this draft is looking a bit a
weak. Won't be surprised to see half the top 6 or so of the mocks to get swapped out by seasons' end.

There's a lot of good players, but I haven't talked to anyone who sees any of these guys and says "franchise guy". I think there are a bunch of bridesmaids in this draft, which is fine.

BOS needs scoring, shooting, rebounding, and defense from whomever they take. For my money I still look at Bender as the most interesting player because he's a multi-faceted 17 hear old 7 footer in a "4 out/5/out" league.

The future of bball looks to be 5 playmakers who can all shoot, dribble, play make, and switch multiple positions. Ideally, you get a 5 who has the length to rim protect but the versatility to take the game outside on the other end.

Bender is trending toward that modern NBA game. Simmons has a boatload of talent, but you continue to see him fail to do the little things on both sides of the ball, especially defensively. In his "monster game" against North Florida he took not a single shot from the perimeter - that may work against North Florida but it was fsr less successful vs North Carolina State - in both instances the opponent destroyed LSU's defense. Blocks, steals, rebounds, are not all of defense - you have to fight guys for position, beat guys to spots, deny the ball, communicate with teammates, etc.

I see these things with Bender at 17, not so much Simmons, for all his talent and production. So, I won't cry if BOS ended up with Simmons, he can play and improve, but I dont see his upside being better than Bender's, nor do I think his skillset makes him the clear choice for BOS either.

This is still the draft to TRADE this pick from what i've seen of these guys so far. Nets aren't getting better anytime soon and a trade for an impact guy would certainly create substantial momentum for a key free agent signing here this summer.

[mbsnmisc]

Gonna go out on a limb right now and say none of these guys are franchise players - Ingrim is a bust waiting to happen, Simmons is "point-forward Rondo", Dunn is a legit scorer.

These 3 combined will make less All Star games than any one of those comparisons, i'd bet.

I tend to agree, the top section of this draft is looking a bit a
weak. Won't be surprised to see half the top 6 or so of the mocks to get swapped out by seasons' end.

There's a lot of good players, but I haven't talked to anyone who sees any of these guys and says "franchise guy". I think there are a bunch of bridesmaids in this draft, which is fine.

BOS needs scoring, shooting, rebounding, and defense from whomever they take. For my money I still look at Bender as the most interesting player because he's a multi-faceted 17 hear old 7 footer in a "4 out/5/out" league.

The future of bball looks to be 5 playmakers who can all shoot, dribble, play make, and switch multiple positions. Ideally, you get a 5 who has the length to rim protect but the versatility to take the game outside on the other end.

Bender is trending toward that modern NBA game. Simmons has a boatload of talent, but you continue to see him fail to do the little things on both sides of the ball, especially defensively. In his "monster game" against North Florida he took not a single shot from the perimeter - that may work against North Florida but it was fsr less successful vs North Carolina State - in both instances the opponent destroyed LSU's defense. Blocks, steals, rebounds, are not all of defense - you have to fight guys for position, beat guys to spots, deny the ball, communicate with teammates, etc.

I see these things with Bender at 17, not so much Simmons, for all his talent and production. So, I won't cry if BOS ended up with Simmons, he can play and improve, but I dont see his upside being better than Bender's, nor do I think his skillset makes him the clear choice for BOS either.

This is still the draft to TRADE this pick from what i've seen of these guys so far. Nets aren't getting better anytime soon and a trade for an impact guy would certainly create substantial momentum for a key free agent signing here this summer.

Agree 100%.

[Gant]

Brandon Ingram is now #2 in the DX rankings. That's a very long small-forward.

http://www.draftexpress.com/rankings/Top-100-Prospects/

[ddb]

I'm hearing from a few bball ops execs that I know that the top 3 prospects in this draft in terms of star potential are Simmons, Dunn and Ingram. I'd have to agree. I love all 3 and would be happy with any of those guys in Celtics green.

Simmons- LeBron type
Ingram- Durant type
Dunn- Wade type, but with more PG skills

Gonna go out on a limb right now and say none of these guys are franchise players - Ingrim is a bust waiting to happen, Simmons is "point-forward Rondo", Dunn is a legit scorer.

These 3 combined will make less All Star games than any one of those comparisons, i'd bet.

history/percentages would favor your assessment. Although I'll disagree about Simmons. He's the next face of the NBA

[165bows]

Gonna go out on a limb right now and say none of these guys are franchise players - Ingrim is a bust waiting to happen, Simmons is "point-forward Rondo", Dunn is a legit scorer.

These 3 combined will make less All Star games than any one of those comparisons, i'd bet.

I tend to agree, the top section of this draft is looking a bit a
weak. Won't be surprised to see half the top 6 or so of the mocks to get swapped out by seasons' end.

There's a lot of good players, but I haven't talked to anyone who sees any of these guys and says "franchise guy". I think there are a bunch of bridesmaids in this draft, which is fine.

BOS needs scoring, shooting, rebounding, and defense from whomever they take. For my money I still look at Bender as the most interesting player because he's a multi-faceted 17 hear old 7 footer in a "4 out/5/out" league.

The future of bball looks to be 5 playmakers who can all shoot, dribble, play make, and switch multiple positions. Ideally, you get a 5 who has the length to rim protect but the versatility to take the game outside on the other end.

Bender is trending toward that modern NBA game. Simmons has a boatload of talent, but you continue to see him fail to do the little things on both sides of the ball, especially defensively. In his "monster game" against North Florida he took not a single shot from the perimeter - that may work against North Florida but it was fsr less successful vs North Carolina State - in both instances the opponent destroyed LSU's defense. Blocks, steals, rebounds, are not all of defense - you have to fight guys for position, beat guys to spots, deny the ball, communicate with teammates, etc.

I see these things with Bender at 17, not so much Simmons, for all his talent and production. So, I won't cry if BOS ended up with Simmons, he can play and improve, but I dont see his upside being better than Bender's, nor do I think his skillset makes him the clear choice for BOS either.

This is still the draft to TRADE this pick from what i've seen of these guys so far. Nets aren't getting better anytime soon and a trade for an impact guy would certainly create substantial momentum for a key free agent signing here this summer.

I missed that recent LSU game but did note that North Florida was the 282nd ranked defense in college ball.

I like Bender's potential a lot and wouldn't hate if they swing the pick for a good player(s) instead. Just not really sure who that would be that makes sense for both sides.

I've seen a couple of things saying this draft does have good older talent or depth. That bodes well to get a couple of solid contributors on long term cheap deals before contract structures change (or have other teams value the ability to do so in trade).