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Re: Wet - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#581 » by yosemiteben » Wed Dec 2, 2015 10:46 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
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catch20two wrote:Would you ever call yourself out? 8-)

I try not to call myself out or pat myself on the back because at the end of the day I really only care about who we are now, not what I said in the past. Like I said, no one should be keeping score here.


Part of the ribbing is to deter the culprit from running his big fat mouth in the future.

We're serious about this. Warnings have been issued. We're going to start temp banning folks for this. Let's please just let it go and move on.
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Re: Wet - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#582 » by catch20two » Wed Dec 2, 2015 10:54 pm

Ichiro, you better chill. Lol
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Re: Wet - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#583 » by SWedd523 » Thu Dec 3, 2015 12:15 am

I too am very surprised Lamb has played so well. I never would've expected him to do this well. Just ask Slam ;)
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Re: Wet - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#584 » by Joest2003 » Thu Dec 3, 2015 2:04 pm

Let's just be happy with how he's playing. The fact Cho got him for a bag of chips probably secures his job for a few more years too. Best move he's made so far in my opinion. I don't even think ridinoir is still in the league and we got a 22 year old who is just now getting his first chance to play in the NBA.
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Re: Wet - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#585 » by StitchJones » Thu Dec 3, 2015 2:53 pm

JLamb has been a good pickup. I think Clifford will bite the bullet soon and start him, at least until MKG is back healthy.
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Re: Wet - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#586 » by sidestep » Thu Dec 3, 2015 8:04 pm

These are the players who have assisted Lamb the most after 18 games:
Hawes 15
Lin 12
Kaminsky 5
Williams 4
Batum 4
Walker 3
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/event_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=lambje01&event_code=fg&year_id=2016&is_playoffs=N&team_id=&opp_id=&quarter=&time_remain_quarter=&margin=&score=

The fact that Hawes has assisted Lamb the most does not mean he's the best playmaker, hehe. Instead, that number reflects how Lamb's excellent shooting ability is maximized with the 2nd unit. This fits what we casually see in games. Specifically, Lamb is maximized when he plays with Lin as the only key playmaker in the unit. (Hawes has so many assists because the 2nd unit moves the ball much better than the 1st unit. But the key playmakers are Lin, Kemba, and Batum.)

What the numbers also show is that when Lamb plays with Batum or Kemba, or with both of them, he becomes nearly invisible. Considering that Kemba handles the ball the most on the team and has played significant minutes with Lamb, it is bad, even embarrassing, that he's only assisted Lamb 3 times so far.

Lamb is a deadly catch and shoot weapon, so if a key playmaker does not regularly try to bend the defense to create shot opportunities for Lamb, or is not looking for him on offense, then he's failed as a playmaker on this team.

More generally, this team has to figure out how utilize the third offensive wing next to Kemba and Batum. Whether it's Lamb or Lin (Cliff these two as interchangeable in closing lineups), those three wings have to figure out how to play better with each other instead of just taking turns being the man. Whoever has the best shot should be taking it; and they should all be working together to find the best shot available. Just chucking it up early in the clock before most of the teammates have even touched the ball or tried to work for something better is simply a copout. So far the team's inefficiency in maximizing the ability of its three offensive wings has been hidden by Kemba's and Batum's good shooting percentages thus far. But when I look at how the offense is run, the decisions being made (instead of kneejerking over whether shots go in or miss), I don't see an efficient offense, or good team play.
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Re: Wet - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#587 » by yosemiteben » Fri Dec 4, 2015 4:15 pm

Lamb is averaging 2.1 assists per 36 minutes. I love that he is scoring so efficiently, but he definitely is a bit of a ball stopper on the second unit. We have seen him make some excellent passes so we know the potential is there for him to be more than an ISO creator (not that he isn't extremely valuable just in that role). I hope as he grows more comfortable in his role and draws more defensive attention that we'll see him more actively involve his teammates.
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Re: Wet - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#588 » by bws94 » Fri Dec 4, 2015 9:32 pm

Confirms what I thought. Lamb gets more opportunity to score in the 2nd unit. Probably because he's the first scoring option. A little surprised it is Hawes that he's received the most assists from.
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Re: Wet - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#589 » by bws94 » Sat Dec 5, 2015 7:38 pm

Jeremy has gotten much better at interviews. His shoot around interview is good today. Talked about road vs. home games, what he sees on the bench before coming in and considers, keys to the game to get a chance to win against Chi.
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Re: Wet - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#590 » by TinmanZBoy » Sat Dec 5, 2015 8:38 pm

bws94 wrote:Confirms what I thought. Lamb gets more opportunity to score in the 2nd unit. Probably because he's the first scoring option. A little surprised it is Hawes that he's received the most assists from.


for all the comical plays we laughed at Spencer, he does have values over there... Coach put him there for long stretches because he moves the ball, can stretch the floor and a big body for the defensive rebounding purpose; and his play is getting better, when he got going, combined with two jeremys, the hornets have the best bench over there.
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Re: Wet - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#591 » by Elden Payton » Mon Dec 7, 2015 1:13 pm

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Sik Infant wrote:I love this guy.

His stats just continue to go up.

13/5/1.5 in 24 minutes a game is nothing to sneeze at and he's 6MOY for me right now.

Love your work Cho.

You're welcome. I've only been asking to trade for him for 4 years.


The debate was never about trading for him, it was always about trading MKG for him.
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Re: Wet - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#592 » by Joest2003 » Mon Dec 7, 2015 2:39 pm

Sik Infant wrote:
catch20two wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:I love this guy.

His stats just continue to go up.

13/5/1.5 in 24 minutes a game is nothing to sneeze at and he's 6MOY for me right now.

Love your work Cho.

You're welcome. I've only been asking to trade for him for 4 years.


The debate was never about trading for him, it was always about trading MKG for him.


Trading MKG for Lamb was never even a realistic thought. We got him for a bag of chips.
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Re: Wet - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#593 » by ChokeFasncists » Mon Dec 7, 2015 4:45 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Lamb is averaging 2.1 assists per 36 minutes. I love that he is scoring so efficiently, but he definitely is a bit of a ball stopper on the second unit. We have seen him make some excellent passes so we know the potential is there for him to be more than an ISO creator (not that he isn't extremely valuable just in that role). I hope as he grows more comfortable in his role and draws more defensive attention that we'll see him more actively involve his teammates.

He'll definitely need to learn to pass as he's more scouted and gets more attention from the defense.
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Re: Wet - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#594 » by catch20two » Tue Dec 8, 2015 12:45 am

Sik Infant wrote:
catch20two wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:I love this guy.

His stats just continue to go up.

13/5/1.5 in 24 minutes a game is nothing to sneeze at and he's 6MOY for me right now.

Love your work Cho.

You're welcome. I've only been asking to trade for him for 4 years.


The debate was never about trading for him, it was always about trading MKG for him.

Ha! I remember people didn't even think Lamb was worth Hendo. Lol
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Re: Wet - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#595 » by Elden Payton » Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:32 am

Joest2003 wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:
catch20two wrote:You're welcome. I've only been asking to trade for him for 4 years.


The debate was never about trading for him, it was always about trading MKG for him.


Trading MKG for Lamb was never even a realistic thought. We got him for a bag of chips.


Some posters wanted to trade MKG for him is what I was saying and yes, you are right, it was never realistic.

Cho made out like a bandit.
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#596 » by RevolDas » Thu Dec 10, 2015 3:20 pm

Like many of you already pointed out, Lamn is a great weapon off bench right now, but his passing and defense still leaves much to be disired. That means if he goes into a shooting slump then he literally has not much used on the court. I would hate for him to become a JR Smith or even Nick young type of players. I think he is much better than that.
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#597 » by Zombiesonics » Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:11 pm

RevolDas wrote:Like many of you already pointed out, Lamn is a great weapon off bench right now, but his passing and defense still leaves much to be disired. That means if he goes into a shooting slump then he literally has not much used on the court. I would hate for him to become a JR Smith or even Nick young type of players. I think he is much better than that.


lamb sports an 18 PER as a well as a very nice net rating for CHA. Anyway you cut it he has been one of the best bench players in the league. Thats all with him slumping from three, i think he's a very capable long range guy.
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#598 » by Elden Payton » Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:22 am

RevolDas wrote:Like many of you already pointed out, Lamn is a great weapon off bench right now, but his passing and defense still leaves much to be disired. That means if he goes into a shooting slump then he literally has not much used on the court. I would hate for him to become a JR Smith or even Nick young type of players. I think he is much better than that.


I really like his rebounding, his effort on the glass will allow him to see the court when he's not shooting well.
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#599 » by DY_nasty » Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:51 am

funny because I don't like him rebounding. he seems like he'd be great on the run out and literally all of our bigs are capable of he outlet pass
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#600 » by Elden Payton » Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:23 am

DY_nasty wrote:funny because I don't like him rebounding. he seems like he'd be great on the run out and literally all of our bigs are capable of he outlet pass


They all suck at rebounding though!

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