Game 20- Milwaukee Bucks (7-12) @ Detroit Pistons (10-9) 7:30 PM EST

[Blkbrd671]

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[Todd3]

KCP is Bruce Bowen without the corner 3s right now. Though also can get to the line at a decent rate now too.

Good news is, he's always been scouted and viewed as a shooter coming out of college, so I'm sure he's going to get his shot back somehow.

He was a career .339 from 3 in college and is .331 for his career in the NBA. Its possible that shooting just isn't his strength. He is efficient from the left corner and is a gifted defender, and he should just focus on playing to his strengths in my opinion. If he can become elite from that left corner to where he can just camp there and draw a defender from the Reggie/Dre pick and roll, and make them pay if they help, that is really all we need from him offensively. Trying to do more than he is capable and going 3-14 every other night is what we don't need.

That isn't to say he can't do anything else. If he moves off the ball when Morris or Dre are in the post, he could maybe get some easy layups/FTs that way too, but we need to be a lot more selective in what we give him offensively overall. The KCP iso's at the top of the arc is not our best option, for example. We can get better looks that that.

[coordinator0]

KCP is Bruce Bowen without the corner 3s right now. Though also can get to the line at a decent rate now too.

Good news is, he's always been scouted and viewed as a shooter coming out of college, so I'm sure he's going to get his shot back somehow.

He was a career .339 from 3 in college and is .331 for his career in the NBA. Its possible that shooting just isn't his strength.

Well, Caldwell-Pope shot .304 from three in his freshman season on 214 attempts and .373 in his sophomore season on 225 attempts. That was a pretty stark improvement. It's more relevant to look at improvement season-to-season for college stats if they actually stick around that long. I was kind of surprised he shot that many in his first season but then I remembered he played at Georgia.

Regardless, he'll be fine in the NBA as a quality 3-and-D wing who should get back to at least last season's average this year. As long as his minutes come down at least. Caldwell-Pope isn't talented enough to produce at a high level on both ends while playing that much (same goes for Morris too actually). Hopefully Jennings and Meeks coming back will go a long ways towards that.

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[Todd3]

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[mattao313]

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[Shady_]

Bucks Forum before the game

This is a Bucks win.

Lol, piston fans hate us

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Probably a combination of the Packers winning yesterday and what we did to them last game.

I would be angry too if my team was locked into Reggie Jackson

pistons fans hating us makes no sense.

its like hating lions fans. i dont hate them. i pity them.

Most of that hatred of us came BEFORE the Packer/Lions game last night lol.

right, and that makes even less sense.

pistons have 3 titles in my lifetime. the bucks have been irrelevant for the majority of my lifetime. who can hate the bucks? i wouldnt have the energy.

i guess if i lived in detroit and didnt have a job, maybe id have more times to sit around and hate things?

A lot of it stems from jealousy. They know the Bucks are going to be damn good sooner or later, might as well get your shots in while Giannis and Jabari are 20

That Pistons board game thread is just overflowing with salt, right from the 1st post. We're not even good and they can't stand us lol

Pistons fans are pissed that they didn't sweep us in the playoffs in 2004 and 2006. Ha, losers.

We probably win this one tonight, Detroit is a trainwreck. Drummond is surrounded by garbage, it's a half-assed recreation of SVG's Magic. We're pretty bad but they're even worse. But Monroe does suck so we'll see.

delusional fanbase...

Chill with the delusional fanbase crap. We know we aren't a good team and we know we've been a crap team for a very long time. Being a bucks fan is a lot like being a lions fan. Just when you think your team is ahead of schedule, the bottom falls out.

Delusional not because you know your team is good or not...

but delusional because:

1. the comments about us having this "supposedly" hate and salty we have for the bucks
2.the jealously comment
3. locked in Reggie Jackson comment, which is funny because he has been great for us and is also funny because you guys have MCW he's been terrible and is such a poor fit for you guys.
4. the Detroit is a trainwreck and Drummond is surrounded by garbage comment. I don't expect a bucks fan to know everything about the pistons but I expect him to at least have some knowledge about all the other teams in the NBA. We improved and we have a decent squad, this isn't the same pistons with Josh Smith and Greg Monroe.

oh and my favorite comment:

if i lived in detroit and didnt have a job, maybe id have more times to sit around and hate things?

real classy.


but anyways you guys have a decent squad, it's just a bad fit with MCW and Monroe.

We know from experience with us having Josh Smith and Greg Monroe

[hoophabit]

Hey, the Bucks are not a crap team. They took it to and beat the Knicks last night, which were a .500 team. Even the great "Porzingod" was helpless to prevent it. Old "hollow stats" Monroe contributed 18 and 14 to the 15 pt win. The Bucks quickness and length allows that team to better offset Monroe's shortcomings. They're starting to figure it out.

Also, It's not really difficult to go through any thread and pick out imprudent and uncharitable comments. Some people just have to make it personal.

[Shady_]

Hey, the Bucks are not a crap team. They took it to and beat the Knicks last night, which were a .500 team. Even the great "Porzingod" was helpless to prevent it. Old "hollow stats" Monroe contributed 18 and 14 to the 15 pt win. The Bucks quickness and length allows that team to better offset Monroe's shortcomings. They're starting to figure it out.

Also, It's not really difficult to go through any thread and pick out imprudent and uncharitable comments. Some people just have to make it personal.

We get it, you like the Bucks.

but lets keep it real, beating the Knicks is nothing to brag about

[hoophabit]

Hey, the Bucks are not a crap team. They took it to and beat the Knicks last night, which were a .500 team. Even the great "Porzingod" was helpless to prevent it. Old "hollow stats" Monroe contributed 18 and 14 to the 15 pt win. The Bucks quickness and length allows that team to better offset Monroe's shortcomings. They're starting to figure it out.

Also, It's not really difficult to go through any thread and pick out imprudent and uncharitable comments. Some people just have to make it personal.

We get it, you like the Bucks.

but lets keep it real, beating the Knicks is nothing to brag about

Don't live in the past. These are not last year's Knicks. They have beaten good teams and are hanging around .500.

It't not that I like the Bucks, but rather I don't like how some fans here seem to feel a need to diminish Piston wins. I suppose it's because the Pistons have been so bad for so long and they have grown suspicious of prosperity. "Keeping it real" was my intent.

[Shady_]

Hey, the Bucks are not a crap team. They took it to and beat the Knicks last night, which were a .500 team. Even the great "Porzingod" was helpless to prevent it. Old "hollow stats" Monroe contributed 18 and 14 to the 15 pt win. The Bucks quickness and length allows that team to better offset Monroe's shortcomings. They're starting to figure it out.

Also, It's not really difficult to go through any thread and pick out imprudent and uncharitable comments. Some people just have to make it personal.

We get it, you like the Bucks.

but lets keep it real, beating the Knicks is nothing to brag about

Don't live in the past. These are not last year's Knicks. They have beaten good teams and are hanging around .500.

It't not that I like the Bucks, but rather I don't like how some fans here seem to feel a need to diminish Piston wins. I suppose it's because the Pistons have been so bad for so long and they have grown suspicious of prosperity. "Keeping it real" was my intent.

Not living in the past, i'm just not overrating the knicks and also "keeping it real"

beating the Knicks is not impressive and is not worth bragging about, Just like beating Celtics, Magic, and our very own Pistons. Were all in the same boat, everyone is hanging around .500. it's really close right now, so beating the Knicks is nothing

In fact the only 2 teams to be bragging about beating right now are The Warriors and Spurs.

[hoophabit]

We get it, you like the Bucks.

but lets keep it real, beating the Knicks is nothing to brag about

Don't live in the past. These are not last year's Knicks. They have beaten good teams and are hanging around .500.

It't not that I like the Bucks, but rather I don't like how some fans here seem to feel a need to diminish Piston wins. I suppose it's because the Pistons have been so bad for so long and they have grown suspicious of prosperity. "Keeping it real" was my intent.

Not living in the past, i'm just not overrating the knicks and also "keeping it real"

beating the Knicks is not impressive and is not worth bragging about, Just like beating Celtics, Magic, and our very own Pistons. Were all in the same boat, everyone is hanging around .500. it's really close right now, so beating the Knicks is nothing

In fact the only 2 teams to be bragging about beating right now are The Warriors and Spurs.

I'm surprised you can enjoy the game at all with such strict standards?! I'm not advocating bragging. I do think there is something to be acknowledged in beating competitive teams, even if they aren't setting the league standard in excellence. I'd be willing to bet that a win or a loss against the Knicks will not be viewed as "nothing" when it occurs in a game involving the Pistons. I suppose "keeping it real" depends upon your point of view to some degree.

[Shady_]

Don't live in the past. These are not last year's Knicks. They have beaten good teams and are hanging around .500.

It't not that I like the Bucks, but rather I don't like how some fans here seem to feel a need to diminish Piston wins. I suppose it's because the Pistons have been so bad for so long and they have grown suspicious of prosperity. "Keeping it real" was my intent.

Not living in the past, i'm just not overrating the knicks and also "keeping it real"

beating the Knicks is not impressive and is not worth bragging about, Just like beating Celtics, Magic, and our very own Pistons. Were all in the same boat, everyone is hanging around .500. it's really close right now, so beating the Knicks is nothing

In fact the only 2 teams to be bragging about beating right now are The Warriors and Spurs.

I'm surprised you can enjoy the game at all with such strict standards?! I'm not advocating bragging. I do think there is something to be acknowledged in beating competitive teams, even if they aren't setting the league standard in excellence. I'd be willing to bet that a win or a loss against the Knicks will not be viewed as "nothing" when it occurs in a game involving the Pistons. I suppose "keeping it real" depends upon your point of view to some degree.

It's not strict standards, it's just you tried to boast the Bucks by lowering the bar by saying the Knicks are hanging around .500, when most teams in the east and west right now are all hanging around .500 or a few games above .500.

So beating the Knicks isn't special.

also Pistons beating or losing to Knicks will be something but not because the Knicks are a "great", "good", or "a hanging around .500 team", but because the win or loss will affect our playoff chances and also because many pistons fans will agree were the better team.

[BigFatBob]

Good game! I won $400 after I placed a bet on this game too.

Monroe had a decent game. 14pts and 13rebs is good when he's facing an beast like Drummond. In 2yrs maybe he'll come back to play an Antonio Mcdyess type role?

Very, very impressive game Pistons! If we can get our 4 situation together, I would say we're an above .500 basketball team.

K. Gordon with 46mins and only 10 points. Damm, I was on point with the Ben Gordon comparison! K. Gordon is still my guy.


Man, after Reggie's response to that heckler I've become a fan. I still think Reggie would succeed at the 2 though. Look how Knight plays it, Reggie could do the same thing.

Im not sure if your my age, but Im thinking that Kentavious is more like Allen Houston

@BFB: Man, we're in the same age group. I dont see the Houston comparison though. Look at KCP, all he can do is shoot and play defense. If Ben Gordon could play defense they would be exactly alike. Both can't dribble, both aren't great at getting to the line, both can't create a shot on there own.

No worries. Lets just agree to disagree on the BG and Kentavious comparison. Congrats on your money

[Spider156]

I wouldn't compare KCP to Gordon. I can see exactly what you're looking at but KCP is far better than Gordon. His defense is elite already. They shoot similarly but I'd like to think KCP can drive in too and get to the line. What KCP can't do is create and move the ball. Keep in mind the guy barely turns it over but it's also because he stops the ball from moving. He needs to learn how to swing the ball more often. It's important because Morris and Ilyasova are good catch and shoot players and they can capitalize on better ball movement. I'm tired of the ball swinging to KCP only to give it back to Jackson. I see it way too often. You never know what you're going to get because I also sometimes see him taking it in and sometimes shooting it. But if it's not those two, he needs to pass the ball. So I urge him to always ask himself 3 questions when he gets the ball. Do I have a shot? Do I have a driving lane? Should I keep passing the ball? Unfortunately he actually does ask himself this and I see him deciding. But he needs to be quicker. It's an instinct thing than a brain thing. Maybe more practice and chemistry will get it there.

[Pistone]

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