Official Draft Thread 2015-16

[ddb]

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This kid is soft as tissue paper - wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. NBA competition will expose all his flaws in a way that collegiate competition will only occassionally show.

None of the current projected top 3 guys are overwhelming right now. I'd trade a top 3 pick in 2016 for a chance at a top 3 in 2017 to get Giles or Jayson Tatum.

Bender and Labissere are the only guys I feel even close to safe about. Ingrim isn't elite, Brown is extremely poor as a decision maker, and Simmons has shown waay to many signs of not being a an effort guy.

This isn't the year to keep a top 3 pick from what i've watched of hese fuys the past 3 years, its the year to trade it.

I strongly disagree. In fact I think you have it all backwards. 17 draft class is wack. Simmons is gonna be one of the future faces of the NBA. Absolute stud. Ingram by the end of this year will have scouts/gms buzzing, and has a real good shot at being special...Dunn is electric. Wait until he brings Providence deep in the tourney.
Tatum, Giles....eh. give me that German kid with the last name I cant pronounce or spell. My guy in SA says he is L.E.G.I.T.

[Andrew McCeltic]

It's early, perspectives change rapidly this time of year.. I haven't thought of Simmons as 'soft' once, though it's an open question about whether the stuff he gets to do athletically now will transfer to the NBA. Such a funny reversal from Wiggins, who everyone thought was constrained at Kansas, now Simmons seems completely unconstrained in a way that raises different concerns.

[No-Man]

To all Draymond fans, not saying that they are gonna be as good as him and they have both similarities and differences, but look for Robert Carter III and Caleb Swanigan.
Cut by a similar mold, 6'8, 6'9 bigs, with long wingspans, mass to defend in the post, mobility to switch, good rebounding instincts, fight and competitiveness, can hit the three, good passers.
None of them are the passers that Draymond was under Izzo and I think neither are as good in terms of IQ, ballhandling or defensive impact, but they are better shooters early on and they are a tad bigger.

[165bows]

To all Draymond fans, not saying that they are gonna be as good as him and they have both similarities and differences, but look for Robert Carter III and Caleb Swanigan.
Cut by a similar mold, 6'8, 6'9 bigs, with long wingspans, mass to defend in the post, mobility to switch, good rebounding instincts, fight and competitiveness, can hit the three, good passers.
None of them are the passers that Draymond was under Izzo and I think neither are as good in terms of IQ, ballhandling or defensive impact, but they are better shooters early on and they are a tad bigger.

Saw you mention Carter on the draft board and have been keeping an eye out, only caught a few minutes so far though.

What's your thoughts on Isaac Haas and Vince Edwards out of Purdue?

[BfB]

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This kid is soft as tissue paper - wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. NBA competition will expose all his flaws in a way that collegiate competition will only occassionally show.

None of the current projected top 3 guys are overwhelming right now. I'd trade a top 3 pick in 2016 for a chance at a top 3 in 2017 to get Giles or Jayson Tatum.

Bender and Labissere are the only guys I feel even close to safe about. Ingrim isn't elite, Brown is extremely poor as a decision maker, and Simmons has shown waay to many signs of not being a an effort guy.

This isn't the year to keep a top 3 pick from what i've watched of hese fuys the past 3 years, its the year to trade it.

I strongly disagree. In fact I think you have it all backwards. 17 draft class is wack. Simmons is gonna be one of the future faces of the NBA. Absolute stud. Ingram by the end of this year will have scouts/gms buzzing, and has a real good shot at being special...Dunn is electric. Wait until he brings Providence deep in the tourney.
Tatum, Giles....eh. give me that German kid with the last name I cant pronounce or spell. My guy in SA says he is L.E.G.I.T.

Simmons is a lock for stats right now coming into the league, long way to go before i'm convinced he'll be a "franchise" player. Still need to see him influence winning games consistently. He's got a long way to go, despite the mostly-killer skillset. Could be ruined in the wrong situation - "franchise" guys typically trancend situation. Great talent though.

Ingrim will never have two key things: Weight or explosiveness

All his length and ability to cover ground by stride impressive. Looks like he can clean up his jumper and turn it into a weapon....but...his explosive scoring in the NBA will come from bis ability to set up drives with his jumper - the more diverse the better.

Ingrim doesn't have the footspeed to take 3's or most 4's off the dribble. His body control and length make him difficult over the top, but he's got to get into the lane, where he can use touch to finish.

Manufacturing those looks is much easier if you keep you J tight. Potential is there, but potential for disaster is there too. If he never gets appreciably better at shooting he'll be overly reliant on teammates to free him up inside 17 feet.

These are first world problems, of course. Having a Top 5 pick would be tremendous. When I look a Jayson Tatum I see Paul George, thats what ot comes down to.

[No-Man]

Tatum is really skilled, but nowhere near George in terms of raw athletic ability.
not so high on him honestly.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Ingram and Labisierre scare the hell out of me. Very talented, yes, but FREAKISHLY skinny. I have my doubts that they'll be able to hold enough weight to reach their potential. They are atleast a year away from being able to physically handle the NBA and likely will not seriously contribute next year. Id avoid them with the BKN pick.

[Kenhov]

Ingram has the frame to put on weight.

He has a Durant vibe about him with the smoothness of Paul Pierce. Very odd mix but thats what I see. He plays at a very controlled pace.

Whilst all eyes on Simmons I wouldnt be surprised if Ainge is really tracking Ingram the most. Unlike Simmons he canty come in from day one and contribute but I think he will feature the most development as a NBA player.

[ddb]

Ingram has the frame to put on weight.

He has a Durant vibe about him with the smoothness of Paul Pierce. Very odd mix but thats what I see. He plays at a very controlled pace.

Whilst all eyes on Simmons I wouldnt be surprised if Ainge is really tracking Ingram the most. Unlike Simmons he canty come in from day one and contribute but I think he will feature the most development as a NBA player.

yeah, I'm also tracking Ingram closely. I'm interested to see if he can be consistent from here on out after a slow start/adjustment to the NCAA. He's been great the last 2 games. He's Durant-lite. I love his potential, but I need to see him consistently dominate and attack.
Obviously, if Ainge lucks into the #1 pick you draft Simmons and don't look back. But after that Ingram is the guy that probably intrigues me the most.

[jmr07019]

Brandon Ingram is really good. Would be thrilled to get him.

[165bows]

I feel like Denzel Valentine is a guy they would grab with a later pick.

[165bows]

Niang is another one, sort of in the David Lee scoring/playmaking-big kind of player. Except more shooting and less rebounding.

[soxfan2003]

Niang is another one, sort of in the David Lee scoring/playmaking-big kind of player. Except more shooting and less rebounding.

Niang was reportedly a pretty good high school player. Someone that I know who saw Vonleh and Niang both play in high school was actually more impressed with Niang as a basketball player. Vonleh probably drafted more on potential and it seems like Niang will have to make the NBA as a FA. Hopefully, he makes it.

[pfm]

I feel like Denzel Valentine is a guy they would grab with a later pick.

I'm a big Valentine fan. All around guard with length who can really shoot it and has play making skills to boot. I think he can easily go mid 1st and maybe get some late lotto looks. He's kind of the Jerian Grant of this year, except Grant had a bit of a down shooting year last year, whereas Valentine is crushing it.

He's not the best athlete in the world and he's a senior so he isn't a "sexy" prospect, but the kid can really play.

[165bows]

I feel like Denzel Valentine is a guy they would grab with a later pick.

I'm a big Valentine fan. All around guard with length who can really shoot it and has play making skills to boot. I think he can easily go mid 1st and maybe get some late lotto looks. He's kind of the Jerian Grant of this year, except Grant had a bit of a down shooting year last year, whereas Valentine is crushing it.

He's not the best athlete in the world and he's a senior so he isn't a "sexy" prospect, but the kid can really play.

Feel like he could fit into that versatile guard/wing role that Turner is in but with better range.

[165bows]

Niang is another one, sort of in the David Lee scoring/playmaking-big kind of player. Except more shooting and less rebounding.

Niang was reportedly a pretty good high school player. Someone that I know who saw Vonleh and Niang both play in high school was actually more impressed with Niang as a basketball player. Vonleh probably drafted more on potential and it seems like Niang will have to make the NBA as a FA. Hopefully, he makes it.

My neighbor's kid went to school with them and I think Selden and a couple other guys were there. I didn't think much about Niang at first since he seemed too weak on D and on the boards. But the more I look at it a playmaking big that can shoot from deep, score and pass is still a valuable guy. Maybe Kelly already fills that role here and he'd be better off somewhere else but I think he could make it. Sounded like a really good guy too FWIW.

[pfm]

Feel like he could fit into that versatile guard/wing role that Turner is in but with better range.

I was thinking of the same comparison. Turner with range (and Valentine can really shoot it) is a good player.

[jmr07019]

Ingrim will never have two key things: Weight or explosiveness

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[No-Man]

Niang problem is length, he is average there, I personally dont see it.

[Justin33]

While your watching Kris Dunn keep your eye out for Ben Bentil he's coming on strong and has an NBA body now.His inside outside skills are improving at a quantum rate