Magic(12-10) vs. Cavaliers(14-7)

tooler · Post #381 » by **tooler** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:18 am

Orlwillbeback wrote:this is going to ruin our point differential

As long as we don't lose by 53, it will still be positive!

But yeah, we're going to be down there with Detroit. Barf.

Post #382 » by **SOUL** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:19 am

5 points combined from our starting SG + SF + PF

thelead · Post #383 » by **thelead** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:19 am

CraZyPraiZ wrote:
Immature Luigi wrote:This is why I was wondering why we didn't keep an offensive coach in the staff. We literally have no plays specifically for AG or hezonja. It's like we got AG playing the template bench big role and Hezonja playing the fournier role.

When you can not shoot there is no play that can save you. This needs to be addressed. We have no one not one person that can make a shot when needed. Coaching can't do **** if you can't shoot.

You're telling me that Mario Hezonja cannot shoot? Is that what you're telling me?

KillMonger · Post #384 » by **KillMonger** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:20 am

CraZyPraiZ wrote:
Immature Luigi wrote:This is why I was wondering why we didn't keep an offensive coach in the staff. We literally have no plays specifically for AG or hezonja. It's like we got AG playing the template bench big role and Hezonja playing the fournier role.

When you can not shoot there is no play that can save you. This needs to be addressed. We have no one not one person that can make a shot when needed. Coaching can't do **** if you can't shoot.

Coaching can be everything considering how we looked last year defensively. We could be much better if we had any semblance of an offense.

Orlwillbeback · Post #385 » by **Orlwillbeback** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:20 am

CraZyPraiZ wrote:
Immature Luigi wrote:This is why I was wondering why we didn't keep an offensive coach in the staff. We literally have no plays specifically for AG or hezonja. It's like we got AG playing the template bench big role and Hezonja playing the fournier role.

When you can not shoot there is no play that can save you. This needs to be addressed. We have no one not one person that can make a shot when needed. Coaching can't do **** if you can't shoot.

well the problem here is that the best shooter on the team and only true sharpshooter, Hezonja, rides the bench because the rest of his game is so underdeveloped. He has slow reactions defensively(fouled out in 20 minutes guarding cleveland's 3rd unit), a non rebounder and still struggles to read the game. And he has a high dribble. If AMrio truly develops and improves on these weaknesses then he can be a great player i believe but he is so far away right now and he is not getting the reps to develop right now.

Gomagic44 · Post #386 » by **Gomagic44** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:20 am

I'm glad I got to see my family instead of this game, or I would likely be sloshed and angry by now. Bad loss.

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Post #387 » by **Bensational** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:21 am

CraZyPraiZ wrote:
Immature Luigi wrote:This is why I was wondering why we didn't keep an offensive coach in the staff. We literally have no plays specifically for AG or hezonja. It's like we got AG playing the template bench big role and Hezonja playing the fournier role.

When you can not shoot there is no play that can save you. This needs to be addressed. We have no one not one person that can make a shot when needed. Coaching can't do **** if you can't shoot.

that's just not true. there are plenty of plays that can be drawn up to get AG the ball on a cut to the hoop or a backdoor screen. even running a PnR with him as the ball handler or the roll man would get him good shots within his range.

Post #388 » by **SOUL** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:22 am

Not directed towards PraiZ, but a lot of posters act like Skiles is a god and does nothing wrong with his coaching and system, and then will say that there's nothing they can do to run open plays for certain players or that it's up to the players only to improve and set themselves up for success without seeing playing time or running plays for them. Makes zero sense.

CraZyPraiZ · Post #389 » by **CraZyPraiZ** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:22 am

Immature Luigi wrote:Drawn up plays for Jason Smith, do we have any for AG?

OMG. Have you seen AG on offense? God Damn. He can not shoot and blows a ton of shots at the rim. Skiles can not shoot the ball for these guys. They can not hit the broad side of Amway from I4. GTFO. He is going to be a role player and hopefully it will be on a good team.

seeingstars · Post #390 » by **seeingstars** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:22 am

Elf
Hezonja
Gordon
Harris
Vuc

Book !+

zuppafly · Post #391 » by **zuppafly** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:23 am

thelead wrote:
zuppafly wrote:
Howard Mass wrote:Disgusting to see The Cavs celebrating on their bench.

I said it earlier: this is a nice reminder as to why I despise Lebron and the Cavs. The arrogance is unbearable to watch. I could never respect an opponent acting like a clow on the bench like they just did. Their fans should be ashamed of this behaviour.

I'm more ashamed of our team's effort and offense

I'm not. A bad night, a night off can and will happen. They will bounce back and if we win in the next game we will all erase most of tonight's memories.
The Cavs lack of respect and their arrogance, on the other hand...

ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #392 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:23 am

SOUL wrote:5 points combined from our starting SG + SF + PF

i didn't realize that Tobias didn't score.

thelead · Post #393 » by **thelead** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:24 am

Tobias has put too much weight on, expecting to play PF. Go watch his videos from the previous 2 years. He was much quicker.

Ohhwell8 · Post #394 » by **Ohhwell8** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:24 am

rcklsscognition wrote:I'm excited Gordon is finally going to get 30+ minutes and will be guarding Lebron all night. Cannot wait.

Not quite as planned ehh?

OrlChamps2030 · Post #395 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:25 am

zuppafly wrote:
thelead wrote:
zuppafly wrote:I said it earlier: this is a nice reminder as to why I despise Lebron and the Cavs. The arrogance is unbearable to watch. I could never respect an opponent acting like a clow on the bench like they just did. Their fans should be ashamed of this behaviour.

I'm more ashamed of our team's effort and offense

I'm not. A bad night, a night off can and will happen. They will bounce back and if we win in the next game we will all erase most of tonight's memories.
The Cavs lack of respect and their arrogance, on the other hand...

don't get beat by 40 on your home court and you dont have to worry about the other team being "disrespectful"

CraZyPraiZ · Post #396 » by **CraZyPraiZ** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:25 am

After all is said and done 12-11 is where we all hoped we'd be. I'm not complaining but what do we do to get to the next level? I have given up hope on some of these guys that simply can not make a basket.

KillMonger · Post #397 » by **KillMonger** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:25 am

I feel like skiles doesn't believe we have anybody in the roster capable of being an Allstar so we play this Bulls it by committee basketball. It's more about the system and not the players which is why we are so often putting players in positions that doesn't suit them. Offense needs an overhaul, and Frye does nothing for spacing if we don't go to him enough. What's the use of a threat if he isn't one?

rcklsscognition · Post #398 » by **rcklsscognition** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:26 am

Ohhwell8 wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:I'm excited Gordon is finally going to get 30+ minutes and will be guarding Lebron all night. Cannot wait.

Not quite as planned ehh?

Funny enough it went exactly how I expected.

LetItRain · Post #399 » by **LetItRain** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:26 am

whoa....just saw the box score. What the hell happened to this team tonight?

TreasureCoast · Post #400 » by **TreasureCoast** » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:27 am

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:
ChosenSavior wrote:
TreasureCoast wrote:That's not what a scheduled loss is

I tried to explain as nice as possible. Like someone in their right mind on this board would think we were better than Cleveland...

Who cares when this game was scheduled for us either between a long road trip, back to back or 3 months rest, we weren't going to win this game or catch them off guard no matter what their schedule look liked.

FYI I know what a schedule loss is.

FYI Andre Igoudala does not play for the Magic....