MKG needs surgery, will miss 6 months

[Braggins]

We added better offensive players and a completely new and obviously superior offensive system. Its not like we are the same old team doing the same old things and its all of a sudden working because MKG is out.

The only reason MKG was ever even arguably a liability (statistics don't really back up that claim) is because we ran a super predictable offensive system based around everyone watching a guy who refused to pass do post isos. MKG was an easy person to double off when wed force feed Al because he didnt have a ton of range and Al doesn't pass out of double teams anyways.

Teams aren't going to be able to just ignore MKG now that we play with all this movement and we literally have deep threats at every single position now. MKG will get plenty of minutes in lineups where he is the only guy who is a below average 3 point threat and it is not a liability at all to have one guy who isn't a deep threat on the court.

I honestly think it is more likely that he will make our offense better due to his slashing ability, improving range, offensive rebounding, and overall energy. If MKG was really going to be a liability the way some people think we would be seeing this same effect with PJ, who is worse in basically every way and air balls half of his wide open 3's. Stan Van Gundy is an idiot.

Van Gundy was a successful NBA coach. What makes you smarter than a successful NBA coach? And he's quoting multiple executives and coaches around the league. It's no secret MKG is a big zero on offense. Please.

The NBA isnt exactly a meritocracy and Van Gundy is nothing but a talking head at this point. Id be curious to know how many of our games hes actually watched over the last couple seasons and who these execs are that he is apparently quoting. Some statistics to back up his claim would be nice.

[MasterIchiro]

We added better offensive players and a completely new and obviously superior offensive system. Its not like we are the same old team doing the same old things and its all of a sudden working because MKG is out.

The only reason MKG was ever even arguably a liability (statistics don't really back up that claim) is because we ran a super predictable offensive system based around everyone watching a guy who refused to pass do post isos. MKG was an easy person to double off when wed force feed Al because he didnt have a ton of range and Al doesn't pass out of double teams anyways.

Teams aren't going to be able to just ignore MKG now that we play with all this movement and we literally have deep threats at every single position now. MKG will get plenty of minutes in lineups where he is the only guy who is a below average 3 point threat and it is not a liability at all to have one guy who isn't a deep threat on the court.

I honestly think it is more likely that he will make our offense better due to his slashing ability, improving range, offensive rebounding, and overall energy. If MKG was really going to be a liability the way some people think we would be seeing this same effect with PJ, who is worse in basically every way and air balls half of his wide open 3's. Stan Van Gundy is an idiot.

Van Gundy was a successful NBA coach. What makes you smarter than a successful NBA coach? And he's quoting multiple executives and coaches around the league. It's no secret MKG is a big zero on offense. Please.

The NBA isnt exactly a meritocracy and Van Gundy is nothing but a talking head at this point. Id be curious to know how many of our games hes actually watched over the last couple seasons and who these execs are that he is apparently quoting.

I don't think you should be so dismissive of their sentiment. I do agree that we revamped the entire offense and that subtraction of MKG is not the reason for the improvement. We agree there. But I also agree losing him was a blessing in disguise that allowed us to test out a perimeter oriented offense with enormous success. Without MKG we are a top ten offense and stayed a top ten defense. He wasn't a huge loss. PJ in his place makes it hurt more than it should.

[Braggins]

Van Gundy was a successful NBA coach. What makes you smarter than a successful NBA coach? And he's quoting multiple executives and coaches around the league. It's no secret MKG is a big zero on offense. Please.

The NBA isnt exactly a meritocracy and Van Gundy is nothing but a talking head at this point. Id be curious to know how many of our games hes actually watched over the last couple seasons and who these execs are that he is apparently quoting.

I don't think you should be so dismissive of their sentiment. I do agree that we revamped the entire offense and that subtraction of MKG is not the reason for the improvement. We agree there. But I also agree losing him was a blessing in disguise that allowed us to test out a perimeter oriented offense with enormous success. Without MKG we are a top ten offense and stayed a top ten defense. He wasn't a huge loss. PJ in his place makes it hurt more than it should.

Fair enough. I dont think Van Gundy is an idiot for that statement. He just annoys me in general because of how he is as an announcer. I may have been too harsh on him in this instance because I dont like him lol.

Its certainly possible he could have a negative effect on our offense, especially initially if he returns this season, but im not really worried about it.

I think we'll be a top 3-5 defense witg him and the same or slightly better on offense.

[MasterIchiro]

The NBA isnt exactly a meritocracy and Van Gundy is nothing but a talking head at this point. Id be curious to know how many of our games hes actually watched over the last couple seasons and who these execs are that he is apparently quoting.

I don't think you should be so dismissive of their sentiment. I do agree that we revamped the entire offense and that subtraction of MKG is not the reason for the improvement. We agree there. But I also agree losing him was a blessing in disguise that allowed us to test out a perimeter oriented offense with enormous success. Without MKG we are a top ten offense and stayed a top ten defense. He wasn't a huge loss. PJ in his place makes it hurt more than it should.

Fair enough. I dont think Van Gundy is an idiot for that statement. He just annoys me in general because of how he is as an announcer. I may have been too harsh on him in this instance because I dont like him lol.

Its certainly possible he could have a negative effect on our offense, especially initially if he returns this season, but im not really worried about it.

I'm not worried either because I trust Cliff will play MKG for the right amount of minutes and in the right moments for the most part. There will be matchups where MKG gives the team a distinct advantage and others where spacing is crucial. I don't see MKG closing anytime soon.

[fatlever]

I don't have a problem with Cliff limiting MKGs minutes to the 20-25 range until he proves either capable of hitting corner 3s or until he proves that his slashing, defense and rebounding still result in a net positive in this new offense.

[MasterIchiro]

I don't have a problem with Cliff limiting MKGs minutes to the 20-25 range until he proves either capable of hitting corner 3s or until he proves that his slashing, defense and rebounding still result in a net positive in this new offense.

It will be interesting to see if he becomes a niche player like Al. I think he would embrace the role and learn fast hoe to optimize his talents. Corner threes are not likely imo but he is an exceptional defender and fun to watch fast break player. He can swing momentum like no other on the team.

[fatlever]

I kinda like the idea of MKG with the 2nd team - Lin, Lamb, MKG, Frank, Hawes - 4 shooters plus MKG.

[BigSlam]

I don't have a problem with Cliff limiting MKGs minutes to the 20-25 range until he proves either capable of hitting corner 3s or until he proves that his slashing, defense and rebounding still result in a net positive in this new offense.

He often pulled down a defensive rebound then pushed the ball up the court hard in transition but had no one with him.

Now he'll have Kemba, Bats, Cody and a revitalized Marv running with him.

That'll go a long way to picking up easy points.


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[yosemiteben]

Wow MKG must be getting pretty bored...

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[HornetJail]

I kinda like the idea of MKG with the 2nd team - Lin, Lamb, MKG, Frank, Hawes - 4 shooters plus MKG.

I don't hate it, at least for the final weeks of this season, if he returns then

[RollingWave]

I think that sentiment is overblown on MKG, certainly we need to see what happens when he gets back, but i find it unfathomable that he could not produce more than PJ Hairston. he can also shoot 26% on wide open 3s i would guess.