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Post#1 » by Motown Badger » Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:06 am

The percentage has to improve! A lot of close games would have been won if they made 80%!

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Post#2 » by Spider156 » Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:38 am

Dave Hopla. We got him
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Post#3 » by mercury » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:04 am

It will be interesting to see a breakdown of the FT % for each qtr of the year... if they show even a 5% improvement in the last qtr the W's should pile up at the right time.
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Post#4 » by Todd3 » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:10 am

Spider156 wrote:Dave Hopla. We got him


I read an article yesterday that Reggie still has a personal shooting coach who he has been training with for years, in addition to Hopla. Pistons should consider adding him to the staff full-time too and have him working with everyone. Reggie's FTs look great.
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Post#5 » by DBC10 » Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:40 pm

You can see the effect Hopla has made on KCP at least. He's significantly improved over his last few years.

Maybe that's why KCP's 3 point shooting is a bit off, he might've tweaked his form a bit.
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Post#6 » by Liqourish » Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:41 pm

Motown Badger wrote:The percentage has to improve! A lot of close games would have been won if they made 80%!

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We added Dave Hopla over the offseason. But in game free throw shooting takes time for improvement. No matter how much we'd like it to, it doesn't change overnight. Players, especially Dre, have to get extended work IN GAMES to improve in game free throw shooting. It's just something we have to be patient with, like his hook shot.
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Post#7 » by Ghost » Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:00 pm

Well, Drummond's FT% is dragging down the team average but sometimes he shows up and makes them in the clutch. Then we have guys, like Baynes if I remember correctly, who are shooting worse than their career normal. At least we will be adding Jennings and Meeks back soon/eventually and they are solid FT shooters. With growth from our key young guys and then bringing back some high% shooters, I would expect the team to do better in the second half from the line and behind the arc :).
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Post#8 » by Cowology » Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:08 pm

We're 5th in FGA per game, but 30th in FT%. Which I'm actually OK with. Dre is the one dragging us down, but the flip side of that is he's putting opposing players in foul trouble and helping us reach the penalty quicker so that guys like Reggie, KCP and Morris are able to take advantage.

Obviously I'd like for Dre to get over 50% and we'd be even more difficult to defend if that happened, but I don't want fear of the line getting inside his head and making him less aggressive. Make them put Dre on the line 10 times a game. Even if he only makes 3 or 4 the team is still going to benefit overall.
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Post#9 » by ElectricMayhem » Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:48 am

Timely granny shot article about a Barry heir:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/canyon-barry-continues-familys-under-handed-free-throw-095030213--nba.html

Barry said he is puzzled why more players do not make the switch from the traditional free-throwing shooting style to under-handed, a throwback to the early days of basketball and rarely seen today.

"That's something that has surprised me and my dad for a long time now," Barry said. "Especially when you have people shooting 40 or 50 percent. Why not give it a shot? There's no harm in trying when you're shooting that poorly. I'm not sure if it's a pride thing or people just don't think they can do it."


Barry converted from the traditional free throw as a junior in high school and each season has felt more comfortable with the under-handed shot. This year, as a junior at the South Carolina college, Barry is hitting an impressive 87 percent of his free throws through the team's first nine games.


Rick Barry, who played a total of 14 seasons in the National Basketball Association and American Basketball Association before retiring in 1978, knows the stigma attached to the under-handed shot. He said he was not easily converted. "I told my dad, 'I can't shoot that way. They'll make fun of me. That's the way girls shoot,'" Rick Barry recalled. "He said, 'Son, they can't make fun of you if you're making them.'"
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Post#10 » by Han Solo » Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:15 am

Reggie I believe hired his own coach.. Looks like it's working out well. he looks comfortable from every part of the court.
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Post#11 » by mattao313 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:40 am

Seriously tho, why doesn't he try the under handed form? He already gets made fun of for shooting freaking 37% (how can you be this bad?) it couldn't be worst either. If he shot a better % from the FT line he could become more aggressive on offense too. I would be cool with 50% elated with 60%.
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Post#12 » by DBC10 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 4:12 am

mattao313 wrote:Seriously tho, why doesn't he try the under handed form? He already gets made fun of for shooting freaking 37% (how can you be this bad?) it couldn't be worst either. If he shot a better % from the FT line he could become more aggressive on offense too. I would be cool with 50% elated with 60%.


Because missing an underhand FT is even more embarrassing. If he switches, he ain't going to shoot 50% in one swoop.

That embarrassment alone should be enough to deter underhand IMO. Honestly, a lot of these guys add too much complications to their form. They need to focus on having a consistent and comfortable release point. When Dre is missing his FTs from both the left and right side, his release point is shot.
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Post#13 » by mattao313 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 4:27 am

DBC10 wrote:
mattao313 wrote:Seriously tho, why doesn't he try the under handed form? He already gets made fun of for shooting freaking 37% (how can you be this bad?) it couldn't be worst either. If he shot a better % from the FT line he could become more aggressive on offense too. I would be cool with 50% elated with 60%.


Because missing an underhand FT is even more embarrassing. If he switches, he ain't going to shoot 50% in one swoop.

That embarrassment alone should be enough to deter underhand IMO. Honestly, a lot of these guys add too much complications to their form. They need to focus on having a consistent and comfortable release point. When Dre is missing his FTs from both the left and right side, his release point is shot.

But under hand is basically what you said. Simplistic, comfortable, and easy to repeat. Its better than shooting rainbow bricks at 37% like a MORTAR in WW2. I would be surprised if he got worst, at that point its not fixable.
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Post#14 » by Arp590 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:42 pm

Well with 3 days off you'd think we'd get a lot of free throw practice in.
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Post#15 » by DBC10 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:54 pm

mattao313 wrote:
DBC10 wrote:
mattao313 wrote:Seriously tho, why doesn't he try the under handed form? He already gets made fun of for shooting freaking 37% (how can you be this bad?) it couldn't be worst either. If he shot a better % from the FT line he could become more aggressive on offense too. I would be cool with 50% elated with 60%.


Because missing an underhand FT is even more embarrassing. If he switches, he ain't going to shoot 50% in one swoop.

That embarrassment alone should be enough to deter underhand IMO. Honestly, a lot of these guys add too much complications to their form. They need to focus on having a consistent and comfortable release point. When Dre is missing his FTs from both the left and right side, his release point is shot.

But under hand is basically what you said. Simplistic, comfortable, and easy to repeat. Its better than shooting rainbow bricks at 37% like a MORTAR in WW2. I would be surprised if he got worst, at that point its not fixable.


You're right.

Honestly, there are ways to still practice FTs without the hassle of embarrassment from shooting it underhand, these guys just don't have many excuses when big guys like Durant, Duncan, and Dirk are all passable in FT shooting or elite in that regard.

I refuse to believe in the whole "they're over 6'11 it's so much harder than a 6' guy shooting it" excuse.

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