Butler calls out Hoiberg / Update pg 33: KC releases negative report on Jimmy

[musiqsoulchild]

Oh, so NOW, we will focus on the shabby media leaked message, rather than the wisdom of doing a shabby media leak......

Didnt prove me wrong Red'

What's shabby about it? So after Jimmy just threw his coach and teammates under the bus last night, it's now somehow unbelievable that he did it behind closed doors on a previous occasion?

Butler is our best player and we're all clearly big fans of his, but let's call a spade a spade. He's acting like an entitled ass.

Sure, but I thought we weren't supposed to air dirty laundry in the press. Team unity and all that concern for. But the FO can do that all they want. Blatant double standard.

All Bulls related information is OWNED by the Bulls.

This is precisely why.

If someone goes rogue, that information is then used to counter the narrative.

It's the correct approach.

[Rerisen]

What was that about keeping your private drama out of the press? I doubt the same people crushing Jimmy will be similarly scolding the FO. Prove me wrong people.

K.C. Johnson isn't reporting this stuff about Butler if Butler himself doesn't go on record after the game. I'm assuming you know the difference between the two scenarios and are simply being facetious.

So the Bulls rule is: keep the private drama out of the press, but if you don't, we will hit you back even harder through anonymous leaks.

I must have missed the underlined part.

They must be Donald Trump fans.

When hit, escalate back even harder.

Seems like we are on a great path to working this out here!

[kingkirk]

I didnt expect any consistency. I dont actually need the rationalization

Expect consistency about what?

Can you not see the difference here of Johnson following up with sources and airing this issue out and Butler going on record and voicing his issues.

Johnson isn't reporting this if Butler doesn't start ****. This isn't hard.

[TheAdmiral]

Would the Bulls trade Butler for the #1 pick or a top 3 or 4 pick in this years draft?
Or would y'all consider him untouchabull?

Hold on a minute, let me consult with the front office and get back to you.

[TheGOATRises007]

I think I may have found something worse than the Reggie Rose - Rose drama to hate on.

Goodness Jimmy - I read the article. That's just terrible.

It's just awful when you read it.

But the worst part or the most interesting part to me was that Butler warms up on his own and it got that bad that Noah had to talk to him about it? I mean really?

[the ultimates]

Oh, so NOW, we will focus on the shabby media leaked message, rather than the wisdom of doing a shabby media leak......

Didnt prove me wrong Red'

What's shabby about it? So after Jimmy just threw his coach and teammates under the bus last night, it's now somehow unbelievable that he did it behind closed doors on a previous occasion?

Butler is our best player and we're all clearly big fans of his, but let's call a spade a spade. He's acting like an entitled ass.

Sure, but I thought we weren't supposed to air dirty laundry in the press. Team unity and all that concern for. But the FO can do that all they want. Blatant double standard.

So Thibs leaks stuff to Isola and Cowley then the front office fights back and Garpax is the bad guy. Jimmy throws his coach and teammates under the bus while the team is still winning. The front office fights back with a piece through KC and they are the bad guy. Maybe just maybe if Thibs and now Jimmy wouldn't act like petulant children these things wouldn't happen. I guess anybody can take shots at the front office which is fine but a response by them is somehow unwarranted and seen as unprofessional.

[GetBuLLish]

All Bulls related information is OWNED by the Bulls.

This is precisely why.

If someone goes rogue, that information is then used to counter the narrative.

It's the correct approach.

This post is outlandish on so many levels.

But the most outlandish part is that this front office might actually share some of your ideas.

[kingkirk]

So the Bulls rule is: keep the private drama out of the press, but if you don't, we will hit you back even harder through anonymous leaks.

I must have missed the underlined part.

Are you being **** serious right now?

[Rerisen]

The idea is to discredit Butler as a reliable source - he's just a hothead - as if that can be done, then the actual context of what he said, might not be believed.

And that is the more damaging message that he let out, even more so maybe than Butler criticizing his coach.

Unfortunately, for anyone not brain dead, all you have to do is watch the games to see he is right, and the team is not executing the coach's gameplan. And its night to night effort waxes and wanes entirely at the players leisure.

The narrative was supposed to be that this was all going to end with the firing of Thibs, who was supposed to be the one causing such unprofessional behavior.

[fleet]

I didnt expect any consistency. I dont actually need the rationalization

Expect consistency about what?

Can you not see the difference here of Johnson following up with sources and airing this issue out and Butler going on record and voicing his issues.

Johnson isn't reporting this if Butler doesn't start ****. This isn't hard.

2 wrongs do make a right. I stand corrected.

What happened to trying to fix the Bulls? The FO just dragged their showhorse through the mud, and that is supposed to be constructive, but all you want to do is talk about who started it?

[bennjuiced34]

I think I may have found something worse than the Reggie Rose - Rose drama to hate on.

Goodness Jimmy - I read the article. That's just terrible.

It's just awful when you read it.

But the worst part or the most interesting part to me was that Butler warms up on his own and it got that bad that Noah had to talk to him about it? I mean really?

I went to the Suns game and during warm ups, about 20 minutes before tip, I asked my wife if Jimmy wasn't playing because he wasn't out there.

Then about 10 minutes later, Jimmy came out and was warming up with the team. Didn't think anything of it then, but now it makes sense.

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[musiqsoulchild]

All Bulls related information is OWNED by the Bulls.

This is precisely why.

If someone goes rogue, that information is then used to counter the narrative.

It's the correct approach.

This post is outlandish on so many levels.

But the most outlandish part is that this front office might actually share some of your ideas.

Meh.

If you've worked with any big company with corporate governance this is pretty standard practice.

Outlandish to folks who believe in the rights of the many over the dollars of the few and all that jazz.

This isn't about "the man" Vs. "the people's champ". This is about simple rules of engagement.

[TheGOATRises007]

The idea is to discredit Butler as a reliable source - he's just a hothead - as if that can be done, then the actual context of what he said, might not be believed.

And that is the more damaging message that got out, even more so maybe than Butler criticizing his coach.

Unfortunately, for anyone not brain dead, all you have to do is watch the games to see he is right, and the team is not executing the coach's gameplan. And its night to night effort waxes and wanes entirely at the players leisure.

The narrative was supposed to be that this was all going to end with the firing of Thibs, who was supposed to be the one causing such unprofessional behavior.

Well it seems Butler is the 2nd culprit for unprofessional behavior from these recent reports.

Distancing himself to warm up on his own? I mean that's just

[Rerisen]

Joakim Noah cussed out Ron Adams wasn't it, his first year and the team (players) gave him a 1 game suspension. 8 years later Joakim Noah is still here and the 'heart of the team'. Considering Butler didn't receive any punishment for any of these trifles KC scatter shot out, kind of hard to suddenly buy that Jimmy is like the Worst Person In The World.

[bulliedog8]

Would the Bulls trade Butler for the #1 pick or a top 3 or 4 pick in this years draft?
Or would y'all consider him untouchabull?

He isnt untouchable but this year is an incredibly weak draft class.

PERSONALLY, I would trade him for Dangelo Russell though. Butler (according to sources) wanted to go to LA and he clearly wants to be big time. Send him to the Lakers for Russell. We would have our superstar of the future (I am very high on him) and butler has his fame. Plus that would give us even more cap room to go after FAs and put together a good team.

[Unbeata-BULL7]

Dare I say it, but this team really misses Luol Deng. Not just for his steady play and CONSISTENCY, but the way he helped manage the locker room during Thibs' tenure. He was probably as well-respected as anyone on the team, and I have a feeling Jimmy wouldn't be going rogue right now because Luol would've nipped that **** in the bud.

[kingkirk]

2 wrongs do make a right. I stand corrected.

What happened to trying to fix the Bulls? The FO just dragged their showhorse through the mud, and that is supposed to be constructive, but all you want to do is talk about who started it?

All I want to do is for people to accept that Butler is a man and that the comments he made are his and his alone. He should be held accountable.

Yes, the front office have built a flawed roster. Yes, Hoiberg could be harder on the players. These things can be true, as can the fact that Butler has acted like a gigantic tit.

Seeing as he's the one that has been completely unprofessional, it astounds me that people are bringing their agendas of team construction and the flaws within it to the topic as if that gives Butler some sort of an excuse for being mad.

If Lebron James had called out David Blatt like this, he'd be murdered by this board. Butler does it, and it's "not great", but somehow he's pardoned (to a degree) because the FO have Tony Snell as the team's SF.

Give me a break.

[reggieandtfe]

Wow. Hilariously tone deaf and poorly written article by KC Johnson. He pulls quotes out of context to belittle Jimmy, acts like Butler talking to his old coach is high treason and plays the role of the front office's little tattle tale by injecting Big Bad Jimmy cussing in a film session into the discussion. Paxson and Forman are egotistical children who don't like being questioned about anything and they have a complicit media structure here that trades access for fawning flattery and to act as hit men on their own.




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[fleet]

The idea is to discredit Butler as a reliable source - he's just a hothead - as if that can be done, then the actual context of what he said, might not be believed.

And that is the more damaging message that he let out, even more so maybe than Butler criticizing his coach.

Unfortunately, for anyone not brain dead, all you have to do is watch the games to see he is right, and the team is not executing the coach's gameplan. And its night to night effort waxes and wanes entirely at the players leisure.

The narrative was supposed to be that this was all going to end with the firing of Thibs, who was supposed to be the one causing such unprofessional behavior.

The names and faces change on the dysfunction, dysfunction always remains. Its always the new guys who spoil all the glory Re'

[Rerisen]

Dare I say it, but this team really misses Luol Deng. Not just for his steady play and CONSISTENCY, but the way he helped manage the locker room during Thibs' tenure. He was probably as well-respected as anyone on the team, and I have a feeling Jimmy wouldn't be going rogue right now because Luol would've nipped that **** in the bud.

Luol might have helped the locker room, and even more on the floor at SF.

But after being the franchise's good character show pony for 10 years, as soon as he became a money issue, he was given an on the spot ultimatum then kicked to the curb for savings.

Treatment he remains bitter about to this day.