Butler calls out Hoiberg / Update pg 33: KC releases negative report on Jimmy

[Indomitable]

Wonder how Jimmy felt about Pau getting a day off and not even having to travel to New York

I wonder how Jimmy would feel about it if her were 35 and dragging a 7' frame around. Pau is an end of career hall of fame player. Jimmy hasn't accomplished one sliver of what Pau Gasol has yet. Jimmy shouldn't even feel he has the right to have an opinion about Pau Gasol getting a day off. This is what we all wanted...the Spurs approach to veteran player time. If Jimmy doesn't get that tough @#$%

Jimmy has a perspective issue. Kahwhi accepted it and he is better then Jimmy.

[Ice Man]

That doesn't help support any claim.

There are two flavors of journalists who cover the Bulls. Insiders and outsiders. The insiders, for example K.C. and Sam Smith, do not cross the lines that the FO draws for them. Unless the FO signals its approval, no stories about player feuds, no stories about the FO underplaying injuries, no stories about rifts between the coach and management. In return the insiders get information that the outsiders never can get. The outsiders, say Joe Cowley, never get a tidbit from the FO. So they forage for stories that the insiders cannot tell.

That is how it works. KC Johnson would never trash Jimmy Butler without the FO's approval. Otherwise, the FO would cut him off and he would become an outsider.

I don't know how the Bears work now, because I don't follow them, but back in the Ditka era that was how the Bears operated too. Write a story they did not like, you no longer got access. Cut off.

[rtblues]

Wonder how Jimmy felt about Pau getting a day off and not even having to travel to New York

I wonder how Jimmy would feel about it if her were 35 and dragging a 7' frame around. Pau is an end of career hall of fame player. Jimmy hasn't accomplished one sliver of what Pau Gasol has yet. Jimmy shouldn't even feel he has the right to have an opinion about Pau Gasol getting a day off. This is what we all wanted...the Spurs approach to veteran player time. If Jimmy doesn't get that tough @#$%

One word in your post really rings true, "dragging". Thanks, it's quite accurate...

[bentheredengthat]

Or we can sit and say, "Lets wait" some more. Another month. Till Rose's 'vision' heals. Till Mike comes back. Till the deadline. Till we get bounced in the 2nd round again. Whatever, the odds that waiting changes anything is looking pretty darn long.

Yep this is where I think his frustration comes from.

He's been going balls to the walls for 3 years trying to improve. Meanwhile there is setback after setback giving the team an excuse to go on cruise control until it's time to hit it.

Jimmy's saying it's time to drop the excuses and hit it & he realizes that they are going to need the coaching staff to step up & dictate what's going to happen.

[bentheredengthat]

can someone post the full article so we don't have to sign up for the Tribune trial? Jesus.

just google the link, it will pop up at top of google page. click it and you are in

[bearadonisdna]

Sucky we gotta talk about this not basketball. Bench jimmy for a game then be over it, gotta show accountability

[R3AL1TY]

When you ignore the noise about Jimmy, the underlying problem is really the starting lineup. The Bulls have 3 ball stopping players in Rose, Butler, and Pau that need touches, which is messing with the ball movement. And with 2 out of the 3 players not being efficient, it is hurting the offense even more. Not to mention, Snell and Niko being abysmal for the most part.

What will need to happen at the least is another starting lineup change where just 2 of the ball stoppers are in the starting lineup with an efficient scorer in place that can score without needing plenty ball usage. And the only way to do that is through a trade. Another alternative would be to start Noah in place of Pau, but the scoring problem will linger.

[musiqsoulchild]

Jimmy said something he truly believes on the spot and out of frustration, a young man, and he probably regrets it...
So why did our childish FO send their top attack dog to knock Jimmy down a peg?
That's just stupid. They should be trying to improve our roster, not beating on our best player.

There's not an ounce of evidence or implication that any such thing took place.

I just have to note that KC's tweets actually uses people within the organization as a source. The question isn't if someone inside the organization put out a hit on Jimmy, the question is who. If you want to go and say that someone in the mail room leaked this hours after Jimmy went off and did so without any of the higher ups' knowledge, then I suppose you could say that but its quite the stretch.

You can call it putting out a hit.

But it's far more likely that based on Jimmy's assertions to the media, the Bulls beat reporter went and did a follow-up with his sources inside the organization.

They gave him what they knew.

[Swarles Xavier]

Too bad for jimmy he wasn't drafted by a rebuilding team. He's in a unique situation where he has become the best player of the team who has won to a degree when he was not a major part of it. It's hard to get the vets to defer to him since he was basically snell, in terms of role not in performace, a few years back. The only guy who's in the same situation is kawhi, and he's lucky he's in the most stable franchise not lacking in leadership. If jimmy is determined in this leadership role, he's got to be patient because this will be hard task to pull off. Be consistent and let your game talk be a leader on the court. Leadership wont be handed to you easily by these vets and the kids will always look to the vets on how to act. Being frustrated and mouthing off is not the way to go.

[Ice Man]

They gave him what they knew.

They did. I'm sure that K.C.'s facts were right. But he doesn't write that story without permission.

[bullslas]

Jimmy should be thankful for Rose for putting him under his wing the first few years. Butler is a system player, who thinks he's better than what he is. Jimmy realized he couldn't play in this offense and ran to coach crying that they need to put some plays in from last year. Jimmy want's to be a star? Stop hiding on offense when the team is slumping.

Butler has an issue with Taj and Noah. It's no secret. He also is tired of Rose being the man from Chicago. Jimmy want's attention, it's the kind of person he is. Not blaming him, it's who he has grown to be the last few years.

If I were Butler's coaches and teammates, I would tell him to start playing better defense. He's had several bad defensive games this year and last.

And again, Butler running to Thibs is funny, since Butler ran to GarPax to get Thibs out of here.

People complain about Rose, but he has been nothing but professional and Chicago will miss him when he's gone.

[bulliedog8]

Stacy ripping into butler on sirius.

Talked about how there were fist fights daily in practice when he played but media didnt know about it. If they have a problem, they kept it in house. Said Butler isnt a curry, lebron, etc who have at least won an mvp and titles. That Jimmy is only a MIP player. Says the stuff Jimmy says will divide a locker room and that he needs to be quite.

[johnnyvann840]

Come on, KC writes what the FO wishes. Even to the point of fibbing about Deng not being traded, on the day he was traded. Probably KC knew some of this stuff already, maybe even all of it. But he wasn't going public until the FO gave him the OK.

yeah we are talking about a "reporter" who SAT ON A STORY, a HUGE ONE, because he was afraid of what it might do to his relationship with the power structure of the team. Still an unbelievable thing to me.. I understand why he did it and I know how important his relationship with Paxson can be to his job. But that is just plain unprofessional and make him look like a lap dog and mouthpiece for this team.

"GM chokes head coach by his neck tie in physical altercation" is about as big as a story gets.
.

[Red Larrivee]

Stacy ripping into butler on sirius.

Talked about how there were fist fights daily in practice when he played but media didnt know about it. If they have a problem, they kept it in house. Said Butler isnt a curry, lebron, etc who have at least won an mvp and titles. That Jimmy is only a MIP player. Says the stuff Jimmy says will divide a locker room and that he needs to be quite.

That's not really ripping, but Stacey is right.

[bulliedog8]

Stacy ripping into butler on sirius.

Talked about how there were fist fights daily in practice when he played but media didnt know about it. If they have a problem, they kept it in house. Said Butler isnt a curry, lebron, etc who have at least won an mvp and titles. That Jimmy is only a MIP player. Says the stuff Jimmy says will divide a locker room and that he needs to be quite.

That's not really ripping, but Stacey is right.

Ya not ripping, but calling him out moer than ripping. More like ranting. I used the wrong word.

Also said stuff like if anything, Noah is one who could have been mad about getting benched, he even says Portis could have a right to complain about not getting playing time and rip the coach but stays quite. Says championship teams dont call their coaches or other players out like Butler did, like Pau has, etc.

Brought up how Butler didnt defuse other problems in the past like about beefing with rose. Instead of saying I dont have a problem, ask rose. he should have said, no we dont have problems, everything is great with us.

Just said this is still Roses team and the whole team has his back for sure.

[johnnyvann840]

Butler has an issue with Taj and Noah. It's no secret..

you are so full of crap with this... these three are like the three amigos and the three hardest working guys on the floor always.

[Indomitable]

Come on, KC writes what the FO wishes. Even to the point of fibbing about Deng not being traded, on the day he was traded. Probably KC knew some of this stuff already, maybe even all of it. But he wasn't going public until the FO gave him the OK.

yeah we are talking about a "reporter" who SAT ON A STORY, a HUGE ONE, because he was afraid of what it might do to his relationship with the power structure of the team. Still an unbelievable thing to me.. I understand why he did it and I know how important his relationship with Paxson can be to his job. But that is just plain unprofessional and make him look like a lap dog and mouthpiece for this team.

"GM chokes head coach by his neck tie in physical altercation" is about as big as a story gets.
.

I agree

[bullslas]

Butler has an issue with Taj and Noah. It's no secret..

you are so full of crap with this... these three are like the three amigos and the three hardest working guys on the floor always.

Think what you want!

[Indomitable]

Stacy ripping into butler on sirius.

Talked about how there were fist fights daily in practice when he played but media didnt know about it. If they have a problem, they kept it in house. Said Butler isnt a curry, lebron, etc who have at least won an mvp and titles. That Jimmy is only a MIP player. Says the stuff Jimmy says will divide a locker room and that he needs to be quite.

Do not have sirius anyway to hear it.

[Shill]

See what I mean? As soon as the Bulls look like they may be turning the corner, someone gets injured or a hit piece comes out about how thoroughly dysfunctional we are. We're the most depressing good team ever.