Beal for Bradley + Crowder: Who says no?

Illmatic12 · Post #1 » by **Illmatic12** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:43 pm

Bradley Beal for Avery Bradley + Jae Crowder, which team says no?

The reasoning is that Beal's advanced stats have not increased and he may be at his ceiling, thus the Wizards should trade him by the deadline rather than negotiate an extension which would be a likely overpay.

The Celtics are targeted as a good trade partner looking for scoring talent, Bradley and Crowder are two relatively young players who are contributing well on a good Celtics team. Based on their advanced statistical production, both are great bargains on their current contracts and would provide cap relief for DC, who is hoping to build a deep team around Durant.

Post #2 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:49 pm

I think Boston counters with Bradley & one of their young PFs.

Post #3 » by **loserX** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:54 pm

Maybe I'll be the last one off the Beal bandwagon, but I still believe in him. I would turf Wittman and try a new coach long before I gave up on Beal in Washington.

TGW · Post #4 » by **TGW** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:09 pm

Boston would say no. Bradley is a fine defender, and a decent shooter. Beal is a better player, but I'm not sure what that gap is.

Post #5 » by **nate33** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:21 pm

I'd definitely do this from the Wizards' perspective.

winter_mute_13 · Post #6 » by **winter_mute_13** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:30 pm

Crowder is having an amazing season.

smith2373 · Post #7 » by **smith2373** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:31 pm

Boston says no.

Beal is overrated and will want/command a huge deal in the offseason, Bradley & Crowder are locked down on bargain contracts and are extremely valuable to this team's defense which is the biggest strength by far. Maybe if it was one of them it'd be more intriguing but parting with both of them for Beal isn't worth it imo.

Nevermind the fact that Beal is injury prone as well.

wickerhd · Post #8 » by **wickerhd** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:32 pm

Hard to believe that Jae is the deal breaker, but he is. I'm good with AB and one of our bigs for Beal

BleedGreen1989 · Post #9 » by **BleedGreen1989** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:36 pm

Yeah, no thanks from BOS and I love Beal.

Crowder and Bradley are locked in for a combined $15mill for the next 4 years.

Illmatic12 · Post #10 » by **Illmatic12** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:38 pm

wickerhd wrote:Hard to believe that Jae is the deal breaker, but he is. I'm good with AB and one of our bigs for Beal

Which PF? What deal do you think WAS would accept (assuming they'd propose any of these deals)?

Celts17Pride · Post #11 » by **Celts17Pride** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:46 pm

Celtics easily say NO.

Drax · Post #12 » by **Drax** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:48 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:
wickerhd wrote:Hard to believe that Jae is the deal breaker, but he is. I'm good with AB and one of our bigs for Beal

Which PF? What deal do you think WAS would accept (assuming they'd propose any of these deals)?

That would be up to WAS i'd assume, because they all really are at roughly the same level.

Celts17Pride · Post #13 » by **Celts17Pride** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:54 pm

Beal .438 FG Pct, .389 3PT Pct, .758 FT Pct, 19.5 ppg (per 36) - Wants max deal
Bradley .450 FG Pct, .408 3PT Pct, .784 FT Pct, 17.5 ppg (per 36) - $8 million per year

Bradley's defense > Beal's defense

Celtics say no thank you.

BleedGreen1989 · Post #14 » by **BleedGreen1989** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:58 pm

I'm really surprised the poll results are what they are...

Celts17Pride · Post #15 » by **Celts17Pride** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:00 pm

BleedGreen1989 wrote:I'm really surprised the poll results are what they are...

It's all perception and where players were drafted. That's why people think Nerlens Noel is the 2nd coming of Karl Malone.

Illmatic12 · Post #16 » by **Illmatic12** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:01 pm

BleedGreen1989 wrote:I'm really surprised the poll results are what they are...

Probably because Washington hasn't made any indications of wanting to trade Beal, and if they were they would certainly look for more value (probably a young big man).

This was hypothetical lol, the Wiz fan who posted in this thread is the one who brought this up. I think by looking at the results he can see that his trade idea isn't good value for the Wizards.

mattao313 · Post #17 » by **mattao313** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:05 pm

The combo of Bradley and Crowder is better than Beal and their also on great contracts. Beal has some "potential" and is a decent player right now but is injury prone and is a bit of a ball stopper at times. Celtics say no imo

BleedGreen1989 · Post #18 » by **BleedGreen1989** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:06 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:
BleedGreen1989 wrote:I'm really surprised the poll results are what they are...

Probably because Washington hasn't made any indications of wanting to trade Beal, and if they were they would certainly look for more value (probably a young big man).

This was hypothetical lol, the Wiz fan who posted in this thread is the one who brought this up. I think by looking at the results he can see that his trade idea isn't good value for the Wizards.

Certainly agree on the first bolded, but not the second.

Illmatic12 · Post #19 » by **Illmatic12** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:07 pm

BleedGreen1989 wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:
BleedGreen1989 wrote:I'm really surprised the poll results are what they are...

Probably because Washington hasn't made any indications of wanting to trade Beal, and if they were they would certainly look for more value (probably a young big man).

This was hypothetical lol, the Wiz fan who posted in this thread is the one who brought this up. I think by looking at the results he can see that his trade idea isn't good value for the Wizards.

Certainly agree on the first bolded, but not the second.

How so? You don't think the Wizards couldn't get more value than this for Beal?

I've seen the Sixers fans wanting to offer Noel + 1st for instance - I would take that over this proposal. Washington is looking for a big man with potential, not perimeter players.

tiderulz · Post #20 » by **tiderulz** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:11 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:Bradley Beal for Avery Bradley + Jae Crowder, which team says no?

The reasoning is that Beal's advanced stats have not increased and he may be at his ceiling, thus the Wizards should trade him by the deadline rather than negotiate an extension which would be a likely overpay.

The Celtics are targeted as a good trade partner looking for scoring talent, Bradley and Crowder are two relatively young players who are contributing well on a good Celtics team. Based on their advanced statistical production, both are great bargains on their current contracts and would provide cap relief for DC, who is hoping to build a deep team around Durant.

lol, 22 yr olds hit their ceiling now huh?