Should Vucevic expand his range to the 3 point line?

Post #1 » by **SOUL** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:01 am

I feel like this would open up our offense even more. Usually you don't want your center roaming further and further away from the paint. To be fair, I also think that he should also attempt more shots in the paint to try and draw fouls, or shoot that quick hook with either hand, (and cut down on super long twos --) but do you think those long twos he does take should be pushed back a few feet? Should Skiles implement this sort of change in the offense over the next year or two?

Cousins isn't close to the shooter that Vuc is and he takes a few threes a game, (31% isn't terrible, but he was high 30s until a few bad games) and it's opened up his offense a bit.

I feel like we know we have a really good offensive center in Vuc, and when it's going well it's a great feeling.. but most offensively great players historically have either gotten to the line a bunch or has been able to shoot the three. We can half rely on him being a great offensive center shooting midrange shots and being crafty in the paint, but teams are going to start doubling him and showing him much more attention with games like tonight.

The Real Dalic · Post #2 » by **The Real Dalic** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:39 am

I would like to see him shoot a few corner 3's at times. I personally don't think it needs to be every game, but 1 or 2 threes every game or two would be great imo.

seeingstars · Post #3 » by **seeingstars** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:43 am

If the defense ever respects his range and this leads to a few slashing dunks for Mario, Vic, or Gordon, I'll take it!

Post #4 » by **SOUL** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:03 am

The Real Dalic wrote:I would like to see him shoot a few corner 3's at times. I personally don't think it needs to be every game, but 1 or 2 threes every game or two would be great imo.

Yeah, 3 a game max honestly. I've never felt bad about him taking one either the few times he has.

MagicStarwipe · Post #5 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:47 am

Yeah, if he's not going to get to the line. Turn some of those FGM's into 1 extra point. Part of me feels like it would be counter-intuitive to what I really want him to do though, which is get tougher. I feel like if he stopped gelling his hair and listening to House music, that would be a start :lol:

the_hobo · Post #6 » by **the_hobo** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:06 pm

Nooooooooo! Vuc needs to be under the rim both ends of the floor, always. He can shoot a few midrange jumpers a game, but as a big man he needs to be banging bodies around!

paperboymafia · Post #7 » by **paperboymafia** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:17 pm

1 shot a game, why not. He has the range so I don't think he needs to extend it - the staff just need to find a way to fit it into the gameplan without it harming the offense/rebounding etc.

He already takes some shots that are about a foot under the line, so why not one or two more steps out?

Post #8 » by **SOUL** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:17 pm

the_hobo wrote:Nooooooooo! Vuc needs to be under the rim both ends of the floor, always. He can shoot a few midrange jumpers a game, but as a big man he needs to be banging bodies around!

The problem is he isn't doing that either, he's shot more midrange than in the paint.

He's 55% in the paint, 47% outside -- and he doesn't seem like he'll ever strictly be a paint player, so if he is going to take a bunch of midrange shots, it only makes sense to extend his shooting. Honestly way more confident in his shot than Nicholson.

Post #9 » by **SOUL** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:18 pm

paperboymafia wrote:1 shot a game, why not. He has the range so I don't think he needs to extend it - the staff just need to find a way to fit it into the gameplan without it harming the offense/rebounding etc.

He already takes some shots that are about a foot under the line, so why not one or two more steps out?

Yeah, I just mean extend by stepping back a few feet rather than him not having the range. I don't think he really needs to work a crazy amount to hit them at a decent clip since he has a nice shot already.

paperboymafia · Post #10 » by **paperboymafia** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:26 pm

SOUL wrote:
paperboymafia wrote:1 shot a game, why not. He has the range so I don't think he needs to extend it - the staff just need to find a way to fit it into the gameplan without it harming the offense/rebounding etc.

He already takes some shots that are about a foot under the line, so why not one or two more steps out?

Yeah, I just mean extend by stepping back a few feet rather than him not having the range. I don't think he really needs to work a crazy amount to hit them at a decent clip since he has a nice shot already.

With good spacing I could easily see Vuc hitting mid to high 30s on his 3s. Then again, I am so high on this team right now so it's difficult to keep my homerisms in check, :-)

BadMofoPimp · Post #11 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:39 pm

Vooch can be like Laimbeer shooting threes now and then with his sidekick AG as Rodman defending the paint.

OrlChamps2030 · Post #12 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:50 pm

Yes he should be taking around ~2 a game to score more efficiently. Id rather him get to the line but I think its pretty apparent thats not happening. He is one of the best jump shooting bigs in the game so I don't see any reason not to.

MagicFan32 · Post #13 » by **MagicFan32** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:20 pm

i mean he probably could make them, but i don't think now is the time to start that experiment, the team needs him in the post. that is the one go to thing the magic have

Post #14 » by **Def Swami** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:31 pm

I'd like to see him try around 2 a game. Other big men with traditionally good mid-range shooting have done a okay job extending their range, including Chris Bosh, DeMarcus Cousins, Al Horford, Paul Millsap, Serge Ibaka, etc. He doesn't have to become Channing Frye, but extending him out 2-3 feet further may help the offense even more.

Although, I feel like if he could actually do this consistently, they would have implemented it by now.

Optimus_Steel · Post #15 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:42 pm

Yes he should. He is capable and he is certainty a better outside shooter than guys like Dipo, Elf, AG, etc and take their fair share of 3's.

Orlwillbeback · Post #16 » by **Orlwillbeback** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:22 pm

King Close · Post #17 » by **King Close** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:24 pm

I would say 1 a game if he manages to get wide open. I hate it when he shoots far 2's (he makes them a lot of the time, but still).

Jameerthefear · Post #18 » by **Jameerthefear** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:29 pm

Definitely. Got to adapt to the current NBA. If he could shoot it as well as even just Andrew Nicholson it would be huge for this team.

OrlandO · Post #19 » by **OrlandO** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:57 pm

A couple weeks ago he said he was practicing them and we might see him take some soon and when asked by the media about it Skiles said he'd allow it as long as they were in the flow of the game.

GameOver25 · Post #20 » by **GameOver25** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:08 pm

Since he's not getting to the foul line anyways, sure I guess 1 or 2 wouldn't hurt. But then the other side of me really really hates seeing bigs shoot 3s. So my answer is yes and no

Should he shoot a few threes a game?