Mark K wrote:coldfish wrote:I'm just curious, is there *anyone* who is saying that what Butler said was good form on his part?
Some people may think he was correct in his evaluation but that isn't the same as being correct in his method for delivering it.
Given that we all agree that Jimmy was wrong to go public like this, I'll ask someone like Musiq:
- Do you believe the FO planted KC's reports as retaliation?
- If so, do you believe that was the correct thing to do, given the situation?
There is a significant difference between KC having his own team sources which he's estalished over the years that may have mentioned this to him vs. Gar Forman directly speaking to Johnson, giving him some nuggets to purposely shame Butler.
I think most would accept that the source is someone involved with the team. The debate is whether it was as sinister as some, like yourself, would suggest it to be.
Maybe I am naive, but why does the source needs to be the GM, who spoke in such a vindictive manner to assassinate Butler's character, and not just an assistant coach or someone similar that casually mentioned this to Johnson?
As for the quick timing, is it not possible that Johnson already knew all this from a source, and was sitting on it for the right time? With help from Butler, the right time presented itself.
There are four sources of the story
- Other players: that would be quite terrible if players were leaking stories of Jimmy but it's in the realm of possibility I take it
- Coaching staff: would be catastrophic to player morale and the organization if a coach leaked a story about a player to make him look bad.
- FO: While they have a history of leaking sourced information against someone they oppose, it's obvious hard to say it was "X" in the FO. You'd have to imagine that if Gar didn't leak any of this AND was against the leak, there would be some organizational shakeup
- Some staffer: I'm not sure KC would go public with a multiple people removed story (I heard from a guy that Jimmy did this)
Look, I like this FO and the roster they assembled and feel they're graded too harshly here but how many times do I need to see leaked information come out of the Bulls side meant to smear someone before I start to question the FO for the leak? Whether or not Gar did it, he's routinely allowing it. This problem was supposedly Thibs fault. Well we're a grand three months into the new season and we're seeing the same **** with a player this time instead of a coach.
I simply refuse to believe that the FO isn't the leak as they're the only one's who have any reason to protect Hoiberg to the point of leaking material against Butler.
And finally, KC Johnson has a history of falling lock step with the FO in all manners. If this was Mike McGraw, Joe Cowley, etc then I'd have a different opinion but KC is obviously THEIR guy. And like I said, it makes no sense for a player or coach to leak this.
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