pf position. what do u think?

[A-Wins]

D-Mo.

He can be the PF and backup C.

[coordinator0]

Baynes is a weak rebounder and defender and rim protector. I'll take over Markieff over him all day. He is just a better player period.

I would have Markieff sharing time with Ersan at PF (24 mpg) and then playing 12 mpg as Dre's backup at C.

He's a weak rebounder and defender for a power forward and would be even worse at center. There's no rim protection with Markieff in the middle either. Baynes isn't exactly lighting it up in any of those areas but to completely throw in the towel by playing Morris there would be foolish. If he's brought in it's to play the four and only the four.

I know. Baynes at least was better as a defender and rim protector in San Antonio though (pretty much the same rebounder he's always been, decent but not great) so it's not like he doesn't have the ability. THe same can't be said for Markieff. I would cringe if Detroit brought him in to play 30+ minutes a night too. He's not that great. Splitting with Ilyasova would be alright but not much beyond that.

[mattao313]

Why would Markieff be a terrible backup C?

He would be way better than Baynes.

He's a weak rebounder and defender for a power forward and would be even worse at center. There's no rim protection with Markieff in the middle either. Baynes isn't exactly lighting it up in any of those areas but to completely throw in the towel by playing Morris there would be foolish. If he's brought in it's to play the four and only the four.

Baynes is a weak rebounder and defender and rim protector. I'll take over Markieff over him all day. He is just a better player period.

I would have Markieff sharing time with Ersan at PF (24 mpg) and then playing 12 mpg as Dre's backup at C.

Baynes isn't a weak rebounder he is good 10.7 per 36 easily the second best rebounder on the team. I really don't think Baynes is that bad he just needs a pg that can feed him.

[Todd3]

He's a weak rebounder and defender for a power forward and would be even worse at center. There's no rim protection with Markieff in the middle either. Baynes isn't exactly lighting it up in any of those areas but to completely throw in the towel by playing Morris there would be foolish. If he's brought in it's to play the four and only the four.

Baynes is a weak rebounder and defender and rim protector. I'll take over Markieff over him all day. He is just a better player period.

I would have Markieff sharing time with Ersan at PF (24 mpg) and then playing 12 mpg as Dre's backup at C.

Baynes isn't a weak rebounder he is good 10.7 per 36 easily the second best rebounder on the team. I really don't think Baynes is that bad he just needs a pg that can feed him.

Baynes is excellent at boxing out and positioning himself, but he is weak when it comes to actually securing the rebound.

His career reb % (16%) isn't much different than Markieff (12%)

[Todd3]

Baynes is a weak rebounder and defender and rim protector. I'll take over Markieff over him all day. He is just a better player period.

I would have Markieff sharing time with Ersan at PF (24 mpg) and then playing 12 mpg as Dre's backup at C.

He's a weak rebounder and defender for a power forward and would be even worse at center. There's no rim protection with Markieff in the middle either. Baynes isn't exactly lighting it up in any of those areas but to completely throw in the towel by playing Morris there would be foolish. If he's brought in it's to play the four and only the four.

I know. Baynes at least was better as a defender and rim protector in San Antonio though (pretty much the same rebounder he's always been, decent but not great) so it's not like he doesn't have the ability. THe same can't be said for Markieff. I would cringe if Detroit brought him in to play 30+ minutes a night too. He's not that great. Splitting with Ilyasova would be alright but not much beyond that.

I think you're undervaluing Markieff. He is basically the same player as Marcus, who is playing 37 mpg for us and one of the main reasons we are 17-13. Markieff has all the same ability defensively/rebounding, except he is even bigger and better in the paint. Don't judge him by that mess in PHX. He is built for Eastern conference bbal and would look much different in a Pistons uniform like his brother.

[mattao313]

Baynes is a weak rebounder and defender and rim protector. I'll take over Markieff over him all day. He is just a better player period.

I would have Markieff sharing time with Ersan at PF (24 mpg) and then playing 12 mpg as Dre's backup at C.

Baynes isn't a weak rebounder he is good 10.7 per 36 easily the second best rebounder on the team. I really don't think Baynes is that bad he just needs a pg that can feed him.

Baynes is excellent at boxing out and positioning himself, but he is weak when it comes to actually securing the rebound.

His career reb % (16%) isn't much different than Markieff (12%)

Yes it is. Having a Morris Ersan frontcourt would be terrible rebounding. we don't need to downgrade the rebounding since the PF's sucks at it.

[Todd3]

Baynes isn't a weak rebounder he is good 10.7 per 36 easily the second best rebounder on the team. I really don't think Baynes is that bad he just needs a pg that can feed him.

Baynes is excellent at boxing out and positioning himself, but he is weak when it comes to actually securing the rebound.

His career reb % (16%) isn't much different than Markieff (12%)

Yes it is. Having a Morris Ersan frontcourt would be terrible rebounding. we don't need to downgrade the rebounding since the PF's sucks at it.

You are overvaluing Baynes' rebounding. He is a slightly better rebounder but nothing special and Markieff is better at everything else. So overall advantage: Markieff, in my opinion. We are only talking 12 mpg anyways, not really worth arguing about.