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Re: Take Dion Waiters....Please? 

Post#41 » by HartfordWhalers » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:30 am

azwfan wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:Pondexter, Denver 2016 2nd, Philly 2017 2nd for Waiters?

OKC gets 2 high 2nds and saves money and take a flier on Pondexter.

NOP takes a flier on Waiters and dumps Pondexter's deal.


Is Pondexter out for the year? I'd rather have Pondexter than Waiters.


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Re: Take Dion Waiters....Please? 

Post#42 » by BadWolf » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:49 am

Askuote="bondom34"]
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BadWolf wrote:There's always the option to just bench Waiters and Augustine and go with Cam and Morrow more.
Are there still believers in Singler? What a terrible decision that contract was...


I still believe he'll eventually be replacement level again, but what a horrific regression he's had.

His numbers are actually better than they were last year with OKC...[/quote]

I might be looking wrong , but they're not per basketball reference or ESPN , and if you're right then that contract, specially the length is even weirder. He's shooting 25 and 19%.
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Re: Take Dion Waiters....Please? 

Post#43 » by bondom34 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:59 am

BadWolf wrote:Askuote="bondom34"]
dbrandon wrote:
BadWolf wrote:There's always the option to just bench Waiters and Augustine and go with Cam and Morrow more.
Are there still believers in Singler? What a terrible decision that contract was...


I still believe he'll eventually be replacement level again, but what a horrific regression he's had.

His numbers are actually better than they were last year with OKC...


I might be looking wrong , but they're not per basketball reference or ESPN , and if you're right then that contract, specially the length is even weirder. He's shooting 25 and 19%.[/quote]
His advanced numbers are up. His TS is actually improved, WS/48 and BPM too.
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Re: Take Dion Waiters....Please? 

Post#44 » by basketballwacko2 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:01 am

bondom34 wrote:Any team interested in him at all? I'd take back basically anyone not a total albatross contract who made any sense. Can add McGary/Huestis/seconds. He managed to make my Christmas slightly less merry.



Is he that bad? Pacers might give Budinger and Solo Hill for Dion and McGary plus a 2nd.
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Post#45 » by bondom34 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:02 am

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bondom34 wrote:Any team interested in him at all? I'd take back basically anyone not a total albatross contract who made any sense. Can add McGary/Huestis/seconds. He managed to make my Christmas slightly less merry.



Is he that bad? Pacers might give Budinger and Solo Hill for Dion and McGary plus a 2nd.

So take back 2 bad deals and add value? Yeah that's a pass.
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Re: Take Dion Waiters....Please? 

Post#46 » by M-C-G » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:02 am

bondom34 wrote:McGary was never untouchable. Ever, Payne on the other hand is a way better prospect, I love me some McGary but he's an energy bench big. There's no way Payne is used for this, I mean for Bayless? McGary sure, but no to that.


Yeah Bayless is a useful 3M expiring for a win now team, that's why I threw him in there. And I guess I would beg to differ on McGary, sure he wasn't Davis untouchable but a lot of Thunder fans scoffed at the notion of moving him.

But overall, I understand your position.
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Post#47 » by bondom34 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:04 am

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bondom34 wrote:McGary was never untouchable. Ever, Payne on the other hand is a way better prospect, I love me some McGary but he's an energy bench big. There's no way Payne is used for this, I mean for Bayless? McGary sure, but no to that.


Yeah Bayless is a useful 3M expiring for a win now team, that's why I threw him in there. And I guess I would beg to differ on McGary, sure he wasn't Davis untouchable but a lot of Thunder fans scoffed at the notion of moving him.

But overall, I understand your position.

I don't know about "a lot", but I know one in particular. He's the same guy who I'd bet wouldn't trade Dion either (though I haven't seen him in forever). I'd love Bayless tbh, I'd do something around McGary for him.
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Re: Take Dion Waiters....Please? 

Post#48 » by bondom34 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:04 am

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bondom34 wrote:McGary was never untouchable. Ever, Payne on the other hand is a way better prospect, I love me some McGary but he's an energy bench big. There's no way Payne is used for this, I mean for Bayless? McGary sure, but no to that.


Yeah Bayless is a useful 3M expiring for a win now team, that's why I threw him in there. And I guess I would beg to differ on McGary, sure he wasn't Davis untouchable but a lot of Thunder fans scoffed at the notion of moving him.

But overall, I understand your position.

I don't know about "a lot", but I know one in particular. He's the same guy who I'd bet wouldn't trade Dion either (though I haven't seen him in forever). I'd love Bayless tbh, I'd do something around McGary for him.
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Post#49 » by BadWolf » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:10 am

bondom34 wrote:His advanced numbers are up. His TS is actually improved, WS/48 and BPM too.


I could be looking wrong or br is wrong.

www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/singlky01.html
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Post#50 » by bondom34 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:11 am

BadWolf wrote:
bondom34 wrote:His advanced numbers are up. His TS is actually improved, WS/48 and BPM too.


I could be looking wrong or br is wrong.

www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/singlky01.html

Well that's Singler, not Waiters. We were talking entirely different :lol:.
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Post#51 » by Blame Rasho » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:14 am

He should be traded to Philly...
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Re: Take Dion Waiters....Please? 

Post#52 » by basketballwacko2 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:14 am

bondom34 wrote:
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bondom34 wrote:Any team interested in him at all? I'd take back basically anyone not a total albatross contract who made any sense. Can add McGary/Huestis/seconds. He managed to make my Christmas slightly less merry.



Is he that bad? Pacers might give Budinger and Solo Hill for Dion and McGary plus a 2nd.

So take back 2 bad deals and add value? Yeah that's a pass.



Aww you just don't want to send Dion to your 2nd fave team that's all. Ok tell you what I was being greedy no need for the 2nd. Solo and Bud are both expiring and you might save a few dollars in salary and tax.
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Re: Take Dion Waiters....Please? 

Post#53 » by M-C-G » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:15 am

bondom34 wrote:
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bondom34 wrote:McGary was never untouchable. Ever, Payne on the other hand is a way better prospect, I love me some McGary but he's an energy bench big. There's no way Payne is used for this, I mean for Bayless? McGary sure, but no to that.


Yeah Bayless is a useful 3M expiring for a win now team, that's why I threw him in there. And I guess I would beg to differ on McGary, sure he wasn't Davis untouchable but a lot of Thunder fans scoffed at the notion of moving him.

But overall, I understand your position.

I don't know about "a lot", but I know one in particular. He's the same guy who I'd bet wouldn't trade Dion either (though I haven't seen him in forever). I'd love Bayless tbh, I'd do something around McGary for him.


Could definitely be one guy that was just very vocal, because I couldn't point to specific posters, so that could be the case.
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Post#54 » by bondom34 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:22 am

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Is he that bad? Pacers might give Budinger and Solo Hill for Dion and McGary plus a 2nd.

So take back 2 bad deals and add value? Yeah that's a pass.



Aww you just don't want to send Dion to your 2nd fave team that's all. Ok tell you what I was being greedy no need for the 2nd. Solo and Bud are both expiring and you might save a few dollars in salary and tax.

Dion is expiring. I might trade him for Bud straight up...maybe.
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Re: Take Dion Waiters....Please? 

Post#55 » by bondom34 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 1:22 am

M-C-G wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
Yeah Bayless is a useful 3M expiring for a win now team, that's why I threw him in there. And I guess I would beg to differ on McGary, sure he wasn't Davis untouchable but a lot of Thunder fans scoffed at the notion of moving him.

But overall, I understand your position.

I don't know about "a lot", but I know one in particular. He's the same guy who I'd bet wouldn't trade Dion either (though I haven't seen him in forever). I'd love Bayless tbh, I'd do something around McGary for him.


Could definitely be one guy that was just very vocal, because I couldn't point to specific posters, so that could be the case.

Oh, I could but won't :lol: .
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Re: Take Dion Waiters....Please? 

Post#56 » by CAE15 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:06 am

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Post#57 » by pacers33granger » Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:46 am

bondom34 wrote:
basketballwacko2 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:So take back 2 bad deals and add value? Yeah that's a pass.



Aww you just don't want to send Dion to your 2nd fave team that's all. Ok tell you what I was being greedy no need for the 2nd. Solo and Bud are both expiring and you might save a few dollars in salary and tax.

Dion is expiring. I might trade him for Bud straight up...maybe.


I'd trade Bud for anything, but Indy would seem to be one of the worst places for Dion. We already have two similar but better players in Ellis and Stuckey and it's hard to keep either of them on the court at times with the new style emphasizing shooting.

For OKC trading Dion for Bud does nothing, though I guess Bud is probably better than Singler at least. But it's likely not worth it if he really is tight with Durant and Westbrook. Letting him walk and get a payday elsewhere is one thing, but trading him for a guy who does nothing for the team might not be a good idea.
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Re: Take Dion Waiters....Please? 

Post#58 » by basketballwacko2 » Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:47 am

Yeah the Pacers don't need Waiters, I might take him to get McGary and then buy out Dion if he started acting up.
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Post#59 » by marcush » Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:21 am

I think philly is the next logical step before he inevitably ends up Chinese league perrenial mvp candidate.

Watching him take 15 long 2s per game, complaining about every call, talk trash to the opposition bench. It would be great.
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Re: Take Dion Waiters....Please? 

Post#60 » by TKainZero » Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:06 pm

I wouldn't even trade nick young for him
USA Celtics in full effect. Amazing chemistry building experience right there for the main core of the team


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