Is PJ Tucker made of lead?

[Larry David]

Awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.

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[Revived]

Your gonna love Stanley Johnson. 245lbs as a rookie. Guy is built like a damn tank. SF.

Damn is he really? He doesn't look 245, must be a good lean 245 lbs.

When I saw this thread was bumped from months ago, how did I instantly know who the culprit was?

You make me blush

I see your learning from the best with the McD thread bump in our forum

[og15]

People don't seem to realize that a lot of players are relatively underweight for their height. 240 - 280lbs when you're 6'6+ doesn't seem as huge as you would think when compared to someone who's 5'8 - 6' and 240+.

Lol, what? That doesn't make them "underweight", a 5'8-6' person at 240+ lbs is obese...

People don't seem to realize that a lot of players are relatively underweight for their height. 240 - 280lbs when you're 6'6+ doesn't seem as huge as you would think when compared to someone who's 5'8 - 6' and 240+.

Relative to what? Nine-point-nine out of ten people who weigh 240+ at 5'8" are firmly obese or grossly obese. Even for someone 6'5"+, 240 is a decent amount of weight to carry and 280 will be overweight unless you're freakishly ripped or approaching seven feet.

Did either of you read what I wrote? I said 240+ would look a lot more significant on someone with a more average frame, aka the average Joe that's 5'8 - 6'. Obviously someone that's 5'8, 240 is going to look a lot more bigger and wider than someone that's 6'5 and the same weight. If you're 6'4 - 6'8ish and you're hovering low 200s, you're underweight. Step into any DIII football program and every single coach would agree.

Yes we did, lol, the problem is that you're still saying "underweight". Underweight for what?

A, 6'4 person is not "underweight" at 240 lbs, so yes more weight looks different on a taller person, no duh, but how are we jumping to underweight?

6`6 and 280 lbs is not underweight unless you're giving some qualifications as to what it is underweight for.

Most NBA guys at 6'6 are in the 220ish to 240ish range.

You're using the word "underweight" incorrectly. Glen Davis is not underweight. Of you're trying to say that they won't look obese in comparison to a shorter person, then directly say that. Don't say a word that implies they are below a normal weight for their height and would actually need to gain more weight.

[M4P]

Yes we did, lol, the problem is that you're still saying "underweight". Underweight for what?

A, 6'4 person is not "underweight" at 240 lbs, so yes more weight looks different on a taller person, no duh, but how are we jumping to underweight?

6`6 and 280 lbs is not underweight unless you're giving some qualifications as to what it is underweight for.

Most NBA guys at 6'6 are in the 220ish to 240ish range.

You're using the word "underweight" incorrectly. Glen Davis is not underweight. Of you're trying to say that they won't look obese in comparison to a shorter person, then directly say that. Don't say a word that implies they are below a normal weight for their height and would actually need to gain more weight.

I said the following:

People don't seem to realize that a lot of players are relatively underweight for their height. 240 - 280lbs when you're 6'6+ doesn't seem as huge as you would think when compared to someone who's 5'8 - 6' and 240+

Which implied that if two people had the same amount of muscle mass, body composition, body fat, etc. but different heights, the shorter person would look more significant or bigger. I also said that a lot of players are underweight, which is true. If you're hovering 6'6 and you're 200 - 220 lbs like most wings are, you're not going to look very significant. There's a reason why guys like Anthony Davis, Austin Daye, Steph Curry, Tim Duncan, Brandon Wright, etc look like they'll blow away with the wind when they're seen outside of the court. Everything else you corroborated on was from your own projections and had nothing to do with my original statement. I never said that someone 6'6 had to be 280; you're the one that's pulling out accusations with no sustenance.

[og15]

Yes we did, lol, the problem is that you're still saying "underweight". Underweight for what?

A, 6'4 person is not "underweight" at 240 lbs, so yes more weight looks different on a taller person, no duh, but how are we jumping to underweight?

6`6 and 280 lbs is not underweight unless you're giving some qualifications as to what it is underweight for.

Most NBA guys at 6'6 are in the 220ish to 240ish range.

You're using the word "underweight" incorrectly. Glen Davis is not underweight. Of you're trying to say that they won't look obese in comparison to a shorter person, then directly say that. Don't say a word that implies they are below a normal weight for their height and would actually need to gain more weight.

I said the following:

People don't seem to realize that a lot of players are relatively underweight for their height. 240 - 280lbs when you're 6'6+ doesn't seem as huge as you would think when compared to someone who's 5'8 - 6' and 240+

Which implied that if two people had the same amount of muscle mass, body composition, body fat, etc. but different heights, the shorter person would look more significant or bigger. I also said that a lot of players are underweight, which is true. If you're hovering 6'6 and you're 200 - 220 lbs like most wings are, you're not going to look very significant. There's a reason why guys like Anthony Davis, Austin Daye, Steph Curry, Tim Duncan, Brandon Wright, etc look like they'll blow away with the wind when they're seen outside of the court. Everything else you corroborated on was from your own projections and had nothing to do with my original statement. I never said that someone 6'6 had to be 280; you're the one that's pulling out accusations with no sustenance.

Fair enough, just how you put those sentences together and in relation to the thread at hand made it seem like you were implying that a lot of players are underweight.

That said, even some of those guys you listed are still not "underweight" for their height, I'm 6'0 and fluctuate between 175-180 lbs, and I'm certainly not underweight for my height and I have a similar or even slightly smaller build than all those guys you mentioned, but I have been an athlete through my life and I put on weight by working out, and I stay in shape, so of course it would be different it I was the same height and weight but didn't do any of that.

So again it's just the word underweight that was odd to me. An underweight person is someone like Manute Bol who was 7'7 and like 200 lbs.

Calling them skinny is more appropriate, but a lot of the ones you mentioned are fairly "normal" build/weight for their height, though I suppose if we're using the US standards that is considered skinny as opposed to for example comparing them to the average Dutch person. Being skinny though is not being underweight, it is being extremely skinny that would be underweight, but calling them underweight is not accurate.

A normal 6'3 person at like 165 lbs is skinny, but not overweight, even like a 6'8 guy at 185-190 lbs is still not underweight even though they will be skinny.

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Yes we did, lol, the problem is that you're still saying "underweight". Underweight for what?

A, 6'4 person is not "underweight" at 240 lbs, so yes more weight looks different on a taller person, no duh, but how are we jumping to underweight?

6`6 and 280 lbs is not underweight unless you're giving some qualifications as to what it is underweight for.

Most NBA guys at 6'6 are in the 220ish to 240ish range.

You're using the word "underweight" incorrectly. Glen Davis is not underweight. Of you're trying to say that they won't look obese in comparison to a shorter person, then directly say that. Don't say a word that implies they are below a normal weight for their height and would actually need to gain more weight.

I said the following:

People don't seem to realize that a lot of players are relatively underweight for their height. 240 - 280lbs when you're 6'6+ doesn't seem as huge as you would think when compared to someone who's 5'8 - 6' and 240+

Which implied that if two people had the same amount of muscle mass, body composition, body fat, etc. but different heights, the shorter person would look more significant or bigger. I also said that a lot of players are underweight, which is true. If you're hovering 6'6 and you're 200 - 220 lbs like most wings are, you're not going to look very significant. There's a reason why guys like Anthony Davis, Austin Daye, Steph Curry, Tim Duncan, Brandon Wright, etc look like they'll blow away with the wind when they're seen outside of the court. Everything else you corroborated on was from your own projections and had nothing to do with my original statement. I never said that someone 6'6 had to be 280; you're the one that's pulling out accusations with no sustenance.

Fair enough, just how you put those sentences together and in relation to the thread at hand made it seem like you were implying that a lot of players are underweight.

That said, even some of those guys you listed are still not "underweight" for their height, I'm 6'0 and fluctuate between 175-180 lbs, and I'm certainly not underweight for my height and I have a similar or even slightly smaller build than all those guys you mentioned, but I have been an athlete through my life and I put on weight by working out, and I stay in shape, so of course it would be different it I was the same height and weight but didn't do any of that.

So again it's just the word underweight that was odd to me. An underweight person is someone like Manute Bol who was 7'7 and like 200 lbs.

Calling them skinny is more appropriate, but a lot of the ones you mentioned are fairly "normal" build/weight for their height, though I suppose if we're using the US standards that is considered skinny as opposed to for example comparing them to the average Dutch person. Being skinny though is not being underweight, it is being extremely skinny that would be underweight, but calling them underweight is not accurate.

A normal 6'3 person at like 165 lbs is skinny, but not overweight, even like a 6'8 guy at 185-190 lbs is still not underweight even though they will be skinny.

Lot of new stuff learned from this post. Thanks man.

[jason bourne]

I agree he's like Metta World Peace. Thick. He could go 260, but probably is lighter during the season, around 240.

[janmagn]

Overweight and out of shape are two completely different things

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[saintEscaton]

This picture sums up the Suns season far. PJ destroying nachos on the sideline while watching a Summer League game.

[Tave]

People don't seem to realize that a lot of players are relatively underweight for their height. 240 - 280lbs when you're 6'6+ doesn't seem as huge as you would think when compared to someone who's 5'8 - 6' and 240+.

Lol, what? That doesn't make them "underweight", a 5'8-6' person at 240+ lbs is obese...

People don't seem to realize that a lot of players are relatively underweight for their height. 240 - 280lbs when you're 6'6+ doesn't seem as huge as you would think when compared to someone who's 5'8 - 6' and 240+.

Relative to what? Nine-point-nine out of ten people who weigh 240+ at 5'8" are firmly obese or grossly obese. Even for someone 6'5"+, 240 is a decent amount of weight to carry and 280 will be overweight unless you're freakishly ripped or approaching seven feet.

Did either of you read what I wrote? I said 240+ would look a lot more significant on someone with a more average frame, aka the average Joe that's 5'8 - 6'. Obviously someone that's 5'8, 240 is going to look a lot more bigger and wider than someone that's 6'5 and the same weight. If you're 6'4 - 6'8ish and you're hovering low 200s, you're underweight. Step into any DIII football program and every single coach would agree.

It really depends on position. For a quarterback or wide receiver, 6'4" and 215-220 would be fine, obviously positions like lineman, linebacker, or fullback require different height-to-weight profiles.

Regardless, football is not a good representative of the general population or even other professional athletes: it's a sport of extreme outliers, and very few of the high-mass players can maintain their playing weight/strength after they retire. It's not a "natural" weight in any sense of the word.

But yeah, I guess by your loose, arbitrary definition (anyone skinnier that a football player), basketball players are relatively underweight. By the same token, football players are relatively underweight compared to sumo wrestlers.