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Post#181 » by a8bil » Fri Jan 1, 2016 2:50 am

And, back under their rocks go all the Klay detractors. LOL.
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Re: Is Klay Thompson overrated? 

Post#182 » by The-Power » Fri Jan 1, 2016 3:01 am

a8bil wrote:And, back under their rocks go all the Klay detractors. LOL.

I agree that the opinions of some posters are way to harsh on this board and that he gets overly criticized occasionally. That said, there are a lot of games in which he can be frustrating because of his lack of awareness on the court at times. And today really does not disprove anything in this regard since we already know that Klay can be as hot as very few players in the league can be - but we also know that he is prone to inconsistency.
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Re: Is Klay Thompson overrated? 

Post#183 » by Kuya » Fri Jan 1, 2016 3:24 am

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Re: Is Klay Thompson overrated? 

Post#184 » by Coxy » Fri Jan 1, 2016 3:33 am

Kuya wrote:Just kidding


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Re: Is Klay Thompson overrated? 

Post#185 » by Revived » Fri Jan 1, 2016 3:34 am

FNQ wrote:Expecting anyone to go for 30-40.. Good luck with that

I truly pity what Barnes will go through if hes matched at max. 23m a season, he should get what, 40-50?

That's how it works in ANY industry my friend.

The higher you get paid, the higher responsibilities you have and higher standards your held to. For example, y do you think doctors and surgeons get paid so much? Because their held responsible for medical liabilities.

Works that way in sports too. Why do you think so many Laker fans have turned on Kobe the last 2-3 years? Because he signed for so much money while playing like crap. Had Kobe signed for like $3M/yr type contract then nobody would have a problem with how he plays.

Money talks. If Barnes thinks he's max contract worthy, then yes he will be held to max contract standards too.
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Post#186 » by Revived » Fri Jan 1, 2016 3:35 am

likashing wrote:No one says he's a scrub. He is doing what he's supposed to as the $18m man. He has a good game.

For those telling ppl to eat crow after his performance today, this is like his first good game, or first good minutes without Steph this whole season. Bucks game, Mavs game and this game. That's like showing up 1/3 of the big games which he is needed.

I will eat crow gladly when he actually consistently shows up when needed / without Steph etc.

^this. Thanks for saying it so I don't have to.

People assume that anytime someone criticizes Klay their saying "KLAY SUCKS WHATS HE DOING IN THE NBA SEND HIM DLEAGUE NOW"

Um...no, nobody's saying that or anything close to it.
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Re: Is Klay Thompson overrated? 

Post#187 » by Coxy » Fri Jan 1, 2016 4:03 am

SF88 wrote:
FNQ wrote:Expecting anyone to go for 30-40.. Good luck with that

I truly pity what Barnes will go through if hes matched at max. 23m a season, he should get what, 40-50?

That's how it works in ANY industry my friend.

The higher you get paid, the higher responsibilities you have and higher standards your held to. For example, y do you think doctors and surgeons get paid so much? Because their held responsible for medical liabilities.

Works that way in sports too. Why do you think so many Laker fans have turned on Kobe the last 2-3 years? Because he signed for so much money while playing like crap. Had Kobe signed for like $3M/yr type contract then nobody would have a problem with how he plays.

Money talks. If Barnes thinks he's max contract worthy, then yes he will be held to max contract standards too.


So, would you criticize a Chiropractor for not being able to perform brain surgery after he got a pay rise for being a really good Chiropractor?
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Re: Is Klay Thompson overrated? 

Post#188 » by likashing » Fri Jan 1, 2016 4:17 am

a8bil wrote:And, back under their rocks go all the Klay detractors. LOL.


Which rock? The one that says "Klay is better than PG13"? :lol:
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Post#189 » by likashing » Fri Jan 1, 2016 4:24 am

Coxy wrote:
SF88 wrote:
FNQ wrote:Expecting anyone to go for 30-40.. Good luck with that

I truly pity what Barnes will go through if hes matched at max. 23m a season, he should get what, 40-50?

That's how it works in ANY industry my friend.

The higher you get paid, the higher responsibilities you have and higher standards your held to. For example, y do you think doctors and surgeons get paid so much? Because their held responsible for medical liabilities.

Works that way in sports too. Why do you think so many Laker fans have turned on Kobe the last 2-3 years? Because he signed for so much money while playing like crap. Had Kobe signed for like $3M/yr type contract then nobody would have a problem with how he plays.

Money talks. If Barnes thinks he's max contract worthy, then yes he will be held to max contract standards too.


So, would you criticize a Chiropractor for not being able to perform brain surgery after he got a pay rise for being a really good Chiropractor?


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Why is it so hard for you to understand?

Klay is paid to put up points and perform when the #1 option is out, but he shoots at 27% instead.

No one told him to play center.
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Re: Is Klay Thompson overrated? 

Post#190 » by Revived » Fri Jan 1, 2016 4:58 am

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SF88 wrote:
FNQ wrote:Expecting anyone to go for 30-40.. Good luck with that

I truly pity what Barnes will go through if hes matched at max. 23m a season, he should get what, 40-50?

That's how it works in ANY industry my friend.

The higher you get paid, the higher responsibilities you have and higher standards your held to. For example, y do you think doctors and surgeons get paid so much? Because their held responsible for medical liabilities.

Works that way in sports too. Why do you think so many Laker fans have turned on Kobe the last 2-3 years? Because he signed for so much money while playing like crap. Had Kobe signed for like $3M/yr type contract then nobody would have a problem with how he plays.

Money talks. If Barnes thinks he's max contract worthy, then yes he will be held to max contract standards too.


So, would you criticize a Chiropractor for not being able to perform brain surgery after he got a pay rise for being a really good Chiropractor?

No I would expect him to be the best chiropractor in the city if he's getting paid like the best chiropractor in the city.

I wouldn't ask him to step into another COMPLETELY DIFFERENT profession.
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Post#191 » by Coxy » Fri Jan 1, 2016 5:15 am

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SF88 wrote:That's how it works in ANY industry my friend.

The higher you get paid, the higher responsibilities you have and higher standards your held to. For example, y do you think doctors and surgeons get paid so much? Because their held responsible for medical liabilities.

Works that way in sports too. Why do you think so many Laker fans have turned on Kobe the last 2-3 years? Because he signed for so much money while playing like crap. Had Kobe signed for like $3M/yr type contract then nobody would have a problem with how he plays.

Money talks. If Barnes thinks he's max contract worthy, then yes he will be held to max contract standards too.


So, would you criticize a Chiropractor for not being able to perform brain surgery after he got a pay rise for being a really good Chiropractor?

No I would expect him to be the best chiropractor in the city if he's getting paid like the best chiropractor in the city.

I wouldn't ask him to step into another COMPLETELY DIFFERENT profession.


So by that logic, you must think that Klay Thompson and James Harden are the same style of players.
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Post#192 » by Coxy » Fri Jan 1, 2016 5:15 am

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Coxy wrote:
SF88 wrote:
That's how it works in ANY industry my friend.

The higher you get paid, the higher responsibilities you have and higher standards your held to. For example, y do you think doctors and surgeons get paid so much? Because their held responsible for medical liabilities.

Works that way in sports too. Why do you think so many Laker fans have turned on Kobe the last 2-3 years? Because he signed for so much money while playing like crap. Had Kobe signed for like $3M/yr type contract then nobody would have a problem with how he plays.

Money talks. If Barnes thinks he's max contract worthy, then yes he will be held to max contract standards too.


So, would you criticize a Chiropractor for not being able to perform brain surgery after he got a pay rise for being a really good Chiropractor?


:crazy:

Why is it so hard for you to understand?

Klay is paid to put up points and perform when the #1 option is out, but he shoots at 27% instead.

No one told him to play center.


If only it were that simple.
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Post#193 » by likashing » Fri Jan 1, 2016 5:25 am

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likashing wrote:No one says he's a scrub. He is doing what he's supposed to as the $18m man. He has a good game.

For those telling ppl to eat crow after his performance today, this is like his first good game, or first good minutes without Steph this whole season. Bucks game, Mavs game and this game. That's like showing up 1/3 of the big games which he is needed.

I will eat crow gladly when he actually consistently shows up when needed / without Steph etc.


Why doesnt the SG with minimal iso skills score more without our one consistent shot creator? Does it need further explanation?


Let's throw a party for Klay's first productive 40 minutes without Steph this season. Yay!

Btw I so hope he proves me wrong in the next 500 minutes so I don't need to watch the Klay in the Mavs and Bucks game where he hid under the rock.

It shows the team's structure is there for Klay to get points. The difference between tonight and his bad performance is whether he goes after it and play like he is capable of.

After so many years and a $70m contract I am amazed that this board still need to help Klay find excuses when he doesn't show up when he is needed.
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Post#194 » by Revived » Fri Jan 1, 2016 5:25 am

Coxy wrote:
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Coxy wrote:
So, would you criticize a Chiropractor for not being able to perform brain surgery after he got a pay rise for being a really good Chiropractor?

No I would expect him to be the best chiropractor in the city if he's getting paid like the best chiropractor in the city.

I wouldn't ask him to step into another COMPLETELY DIFFERENT profession.


So by that logic, you must think that Klay Thompson and James Harden are the same style of players.

No I don't. I know where your getting at, your trying to say that Harden's an iso player while Klay is not. And that's perfectly fine.

It doesn't matter what type of style they play, what matters is the production. Klay played the same style of basketball he did tonight like he did against the Mavs. Difference is he produced tonight...produced big time.
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Re: Is Klay Thompson overrated? 

Post#195 » by Coxy » Fri Jan 1, 2016 5:35 am

SF88 wrote:No I don't. I know where your getting at, your trying to say that Harden's an iso player while Klay is not. And that's perfectly fine.

It doesn't matter what type of style they play, what matters is the production. Klay played the same style of basketball he did tonight like he did against the Mavs. Difference is he produced tonight...produced big time.


The Warriors moved the ball MUCH better today, and Draymond was the floor general outright and got Klay the ball where he needed it. Whether the coaches adjusted to yesterdays embarrassment tactically in regards to Klay or not, today the ball got to Klay in better situations where he was ready to fire. He pounded the rock a little bit today still, but plenty of his shots were HIS looks, the straight away 3's, the fallaway 15 footers in the lane and the finishing layups. All of those looks weren't there yesterday as Klay Iso ball was very prevalent, especially when we went down big.

Sorry dude, we'll have to agree to disagree on the subject. I get what your saying, "production is production", but Klay's particular offensive game is more complicated than that. This isn't NBA 2K, and that's why the best coaches get paid the best to understand the intricacies of each of the best basketball players in the world to try and maximize their talents. If only it were as easy as "Klay you get paid heaps, produce dammitt!!!!!"
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Post#196 » by bakesale » Fri Jan 1, 2016 8:29 am

likashing wrote:
FNQ wrote:
likashing wrote:No one says he's a scrub. He is doing what he's supposed to as the $18m man. He has a good game.

For those telling ppl to eat crow after his performance today, this is like his first good game, or first good minutes without Steph this whole season. Bucks game, Mavs game and this game. That's like showing up 1/3 of the big games which he is needed.

I will eat crow gladly when he actually consistently shows up when needed / without Steph etc.


Why doesnt the SG with minimal iso skills score more without our one consistent shot creator? Does it need further explanation?


Let's throw a party for Klay's first productive 40 minutes without Steph this season. Yay!

Btw I so hope he proves me wrong in the next 500 minutes so I don't need to watch the Klay in the Mavs and Bucks game where he hid under the rock.

It shows the team's structure is there for Klay to get points. The difference between tonight and his bad performance is whether he goes after it and play like he is capable of.

After so many years and a $70m contract I am amazed that this board still need to help Klay find excuses when he doesn't show up when he is needed.

Do you realise that he's not the only player who played poorly against Dallas?

Do you realise that it might take a human being more than a couple of games without curry to be able adjust without him and we should really be cutting him (and the rest of the team for that matter) some slack when 4 guys are out?



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Re: Is Klay Thompson overrated? 

Post#197 » by michaelm » Fri Jan 1, 2016 10:21 am

likashing wrote:
FNQ wrote:
likashing wrote:No one says he's a scrub. He is doing what he's supposed to as the $18m man. He has a good game.

For those telling ppl to eat crow after his performance today, this is like his first good game, or first good minutes without Steph this whole season. Bucks game, Mavs game and this game. That's like showing up 1/3 of the big games which he is needed.

I will eat crow gladly when he actually consistently shows up when needed / without Steph etc.


Why doesnt the SG with minimal iso skills score more without our one consistent shot creator? Does it need further explanation?


Let's throw a party for Klay's first productive 40 minutes without Steph this season. Yay!

Btw I so hope he proves me wrong in the next 500 minutes so I don't need to watch the Klay in the Mavs and Bucks game where he hid under the rock.

It shows the team's structure is there for Klay to get points. The difference between tonight and his bad performance is whether he goes after it and play like he is capable of.

After so many years and a $70m contract I am amazed that this board still need to help Klay find excuses when he doesn't show up when he is needed.

Yes, at his second attempt, Curry having only missed 2 games as far as I recall.

They are devastating the NBA to an almost unprecedented degree with Curry, which is significantly due to Curry being such a unique player. I think they can be forgiven for taking a single game to come up with an alternative scheme with a rookie interim coach.
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Post#198 » by East Bay Sports » Fri Jan 1, 2016 10:21 am

Didn't Klay score 40 against Indiana last year when Steph sat out a game? This was not the first time he has done something like this.

I don't understand why people are so stupid about Klay.
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Post#199 » by NBAfan3024 » Fri Jan 1, 2016 10:41 am

Steph holding klay back ha
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Post#200 » by Bandeazyy » Fri Jan 1, 2016 10:47 am

yo....some of you posters just straight up sound like bandwagoners no lie. you guys do realize we are 30-2 and with 4 players out right? not to mention coming off a championship season....I was over the moon when we got J rich as our 2 and you mofos wanna talk about trading klay..

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