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Market For Jennings... 

Post#1 » by GreekAlex » Tue Jan 5, 2016 3:12 am

After a performance like that, I really hope the Pistons are able to retain Jennings. Regardless if he starts or not he has tremendous value and will play starter minutes. Here is a list of all the teams and the state of their PG position. Please add anything I miss.

It seems like the Knicks, Nets and Mavericks will be his biggest suiters.

Atlanta Hawks (Teague & Schruder)
Boston Celtics (Isiah Thomas & Marcus Smart)
*Brooklyn Nets (No PG of the Future and finally have cap space next year)
Charlotte Hornets (Kemba Walker)
Chicago Bulls (D. Rose)
Cleveland Cavaliers (K. Irving)
*Dallas Mavericks (No PG of the Future... I could see Cuban making him an offer)
Denver Nuggets (E. Mudiay)
Golden State Warriors (Steph Curry)
Houston Rockets (They have one more season of Ty Lawson and Harden always has the ball)
Indiana Pacers (George Hill & Joe Young looked great in summer league for what its worth)
LA Clippers (CP3)
LA Lakers (D'Angelo Russel & Jordan Clarkson)
Memphis Grizzlies (Mike Conley)
Miami Heat (Goran Dragic)
Milwaukee Bucks (Michael Carter-Williams + I doubt he'd return to Mil)
Minnesota Timberwolves (Rubio)
New Orleans Pelicans (J. Holiday & Tyreke Evans)
*New York Knicks (They will most likely be after him depending on their other needs and Phils opinion LOL)
Oklahoma City Thunder (Russel Westbrook)
Orlando Magic (Elfrid Payton)
Philadelphia Sixers (I hope he stays away from this toxic nighmare)
Phoenix Suns (Brandon Knight & Bledsoe)
Portland Trail Blazers (D. Lilliard)
Sacramento Kings (Rondos only on a one year deal... you never know)
San Antonio Spurs (Tony Parker)
Toronto Raptors (Kyle Lowery)
Utah Jazz (Dante Exum is injured but I can't see this as a destination for him)
Washington Wizards (John Wall)
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Post#2 » by DBC10 » Tue Jan 5, 2016 4:12 am

I could see the Nets, Philly, and Knicks make a decent to strong push for Jennings. All those teams literally don't have a starting caliber PG right now.
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Post#3 » by DetroitPistons » Tue Jan 5, 2016 4:31 am

Philly should push hard for him. Adding a guy like Ingram in the draft and Jennings in free agency would totally turn that team around.

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Post#4 » by Pharaoh » Tue Jan 5, 2016 5:17 am

This is further illustrates that his best option is staying if the money is close:

Nets are terrible and IMO it's their GM that will hold them back now that they have flexibility.

Dallas - Dirk ain't gonna play forever

Houston - Harden holds the ball all game

Knicks - Melo ain't getting any younger

Philly - really? Why would he want to go there?

Kings are interesting and probably a darkhorse
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Post#5 » by 313 Professor » Tue Jan 5, 2016 5:49 am

We see how Rondo got treated on the market last offseason, I can't imagine a team outbidding us on a solid offer for Brandon. He still can't finish at the rim great, and is somewhat of a defensive liability
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Post#6 » by GreekAlex » Tue Jan 5, 2016 5:55 am

313 Professor wrote:We see how Rondo got treated on the market last offseason, I can't imagine a team outbidding us on a solid offer for Brandon. He still can't finish at the rim great, and is somewhat of a defensive liability


I don't think that's a good comparison... The biggest red flag with Rondo was his attitude and the way he imploded in Dallas.
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Post#7 » by 313 Professor » Tue Jan 5, 2016 5:58 am

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313 Professor wrote:We see how Rondo got treated on the market last offseason, I can't imagine a team outbidding us on a solid offer for Brandon. He still can't finish at the rim great, and is somewhat of a defensive liability


I don't think that's a good comparison... The biggest red flag with Rondo was his attitude and the way he imploded in Dallas.


Brandon doesn't have a real reputation as a high character guy either... and just like Rondo can't shoot consistently Jennings has his weaknesses too
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Post#8 » by russkopp » Tue Jan 5, 2016 6:46 am

Brandon is as good a sixth man as you can ask for but he has made multiple references to these big contracts as motivation to get back on the court, which is fine.

In SVG I trust, if he stays... awesome, if he goes, I'm sure it will be a move that helps us now and in the future.


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Post#9 » by El Chivo » Tue Jan 5, 2016 10:42 am

I see BKN in his future.
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Post#10 » by ElectricMayhem » Tue Jan 5, 2016 10:46 am

If SVG has talked to Jennings and he thinks we have a fighter's chance at keeping him at a fair price, don't trade him. Obviously, that's a pretty easy thing to say after the Magic game, though. Wait until a game where his shot isn't falling.
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Post#11 » by Kilo » Tue Jan 5, 2016 12:40 pm

Philly should trade for him this season, but outside of that should target him in the off-season. He's 26 yrs old but a 7 yr vet - so young enough to grow with their tanked for core, while old enough to be a mentor on and off the court.

He gone folks. Just like Reggie coming here because he wanted his own team, Brandon is the same way.

That being said, he's a pending UFA, so we won't get much offered for him given so many teams have silly money this off-season and bird rights are pretty much valueless. I guess the 5th year option could hold some value as to why a team might want to trade for him now - because in off-season S&T you can't add the 5th year. So a team who wants Brandon might trade for him now so they could offer the most money in the off-season. But he's not that level of player to be getting a 5 year deal anyways. I see him signing 3 yr 30M(maybe as high as 36M) with the third year a PO.

So assuming no knock our socks off offer, we have to weigh letting him walk for nothing versus a play-off run. Do we trade him for a lesser return just to get something but hurt our team this year - or keep him to try and push for the play-offs and lose him for nothing. It comes down to offer, but I think we make the play-off push let him walk with a thankyou handshake come the off-season. This team needs to taste the playoffs, and making the playoffs would also make us a better destination option for other free agents that would be a potential fit here.
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Post#12 » by GreekAlex » Tue Jan 5, 2016 6:44 pm

Kilo wrote:Philly should trade for him this season, but outside of that should target him in the off-season. He's 26 yrs old but a 7 yr vet - so young enough to grow with their tanked for core, while old enough to be a mentor on and off the court.

He gone folks. Just like Reggie coming here because he wanted his own team, Brandon is the same way.

That being said, he's a pending UFA, so we won't get much offered for him given so many teams have silly money this off-season and bird rights are pretty much valueless. I guess the 5th year option could hold some value as to why a team might want to trade for him now - because in off-season S&T you can't add the 5th year. So a team who wants Brandon might trade for him now so they could offer the most money in the off-season. But he's not that level of player to be getting a 5 year deal anyways. I see him signing 3 yr 30M(maybe as high as 36M) with the third year a PO.

So assuming no knock our socks off offer, we have to weigh letting him walk for nothing versus a play-off run. Do we trade him for a lesser return just to get something but hurt our team this year - or keep him to try and push for the play-offs and lose him for nothing. It comes down to offer, but I think we make the play-off push let him walk with a thankyou handshake come the off-season. This team needs to taste the playoffs, and making the playoffs would also make us a better destination option for other free agents that would be a potential fit here.


Although many teams will have tons of cap space only a handful are on the market for a PG and on top of that it seems most teams with lots of cap space target first tier free agents followed by guys like Brandon Jennings which may put the Pistons in a similar position.

The New York teams can get A list free agents and then I can see one of them signing Jeremy Lin.

Mike Conoley, Rajon Rondo and Patty Mills are also unrestricted.
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Post#14 » by Kilo » Tue Jan 5, 2016 8:06 pm

GreekAlex wrote:
Kilo wrote:Philly should trade for him this season, but outside of that should target him in the off-season. He's 26 yrs old but a 7 yr vet - so young enough to grow with their tanked for core, while old enough to be a mentor on and off the court.

He gone folks. Just like Reggie coming here because he wanted his own team, Brandon is the same way.

That being said, he's a pending UFA, so we won't get much offered for him given so many teams have silly money this off-season and bird rights are pretty much valueless. I guess the 5th year option could hold some value as to why a team might want to trade for him now - because in off-season S&T you can't add the 5th year. So a team who wants Brandon might trade for him now so they could offer the most money in the off-season. But he's not that level of player to be getting a 5 year deal anyways. I see him signing 3 yr 30M(maybe as high as 36M) with the third year a PO.

So assuming no knock our socks off offer, we have to weigh letting him walk for nothing versus a play-off run. Do we trade him for a lesser return just to get something but hurt our team this year - or keep him to try and push for the play-offs and lose him for nothing. It comes down to offer, but I think we make the play-off push let him walk with a thankyou handshake come the off-season. This team needs to taste the playoffs, and making the playoffs would also make us a better destination option for other free agents that would be a potential fit here.


Although many teams will have tons of cap space only a handful are on the market for a PG and on top of that it seems most teams with lots of cap space target first tier free agents followed by guys like Brandon Jennings which may put the Pistons in a similar position.

The New York teams can get A list free agents and then I can see one of them signing Jeremy Lin.

Mike Conoley, Rajon Rondo and Patty Mills are also unrestricted.


And Conley leaving would create an opening in Memphis, Rondo signing elsewhere would create an opening in Sacto. I'd rather have Jennings over Mills as a starter.
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Post#15 » by Spider156 » Tue Jan 5, 2016 8:31 pm

313 Professor wrote:We see how Rondo got treated on the market last offseason, I can't imagine a team outbidding us on a solid offer for Brandon. He still can't finish at the rim great, and is somewhat of a defensive liability

Lol that's actually still a problem. If you saw the Orlando game, he got there easily but still can't finish. That's where Reggie differs from Brandon. Reggie is one of the best in the league (actually 2nd best behind Westbrook) in finishing in drives. Jennings can't, he has a different game and body build.
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Post#16 » by GreekAlex » Tue Jan 5, 2016 8:39 pm

Kilo wrote:
GreekAlex wrote:
Kilo wrote:Philly should trade for him this season, but outside of that should target him in the off-season. He's 26 yrs old but a 7 yr vet - so young enough to grow with their tanked for core, while old enough to be a mentor on and off the court.

He gone folks. Just like Reggie coming here because he wanted his own team, Brandon is the same way.

That being said, he's a pending UFA, so we won't get much offered for him given so many teams have silly money this off-season and bird rights are pretty much valueless. I guess the 5th year option could hold some value as to why a team might want to trade for him now - because in off-season S&T you can't add the 5th year. So a team who wants Brandon might trade for him now so they could offer the most money in the off-season. But he's not that level of player to be getting a 5 year deal anyways. I see him signing 3 yr 30M(maybe as high as 36M) with the third year a PO.

So assuming no knock our socks off offer, we have to weigh letting him walk for nothing versus a play-off run. Do we trade him for a lesser return just to get something but hurt our team this year - or keep him to try and push for the play-offs and lose him for nothing. It comes down to offer, but I think we make the play-off push let him walk with a thankyou handshake come the off-season. This team needs to taste the playoffs, and making the playoffs would also make us a better destination option for other free agents that would be a potential fit here.


Although many teams will have tons of cap space only a handful are on the market for a PG and on top of that it seems most teams with lots of cap space target first tier free agents followed by guys like Brandon Jennings which may put the Pistons in a similar position.

The New York teams can get A list free agents and then I can see one of them signing Jeremy Lin.

Mike Conoley, Rajon Rondo and Patty Mills are also unrestricted.


And Conley leaving would create an opening in Memphis, Rondo signing elsewhere would create an opening in Sacto. I'd rather have Jennings over Mills as a starter.


I agree... I was just mentioning who was the class of the free agent PG market so people could consider how they'd fit with teams bidding for PGs.
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Post#17 » by Laimbeer » Tue Jan 5, 2016 8:41 pm

He'll get starter money and won't really be affordable as a backup.
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Post#18 » by Snakebites » Tue Jan 5, 2016 8:47 pm



Yeah.

He definitely through some qualifiers in there: if the role is what Jennings expects, if the money is what he expects.

He certainly is interested in retaining him, but there are limits to what will be offered. Which is exactly the attitude SVG SHOULD have at this point.
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Post#19 » by hoophabit » Tue Jan 5, 2016 10:34 pm

A lot more basketball needs to be played before conclusions are drawn.
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Post#20 » by Liqourish » Tue Jan 5, 2016 10:43 pm

Just because people keep saying Jennings wants big money or wants to be a starter doesn't mean he's actually said that. Of course, every player is going to take as much money as they can, at a young age. But Jennings has only ever said that he wants to remain a Piston. No matter how many times people keep posting the other, doesn't make it true. At least to this point.

The market for Jennings is small. And IMO, none of them can offer more then playing time over the Pistons. If the Pistons want to keep Jennings, as SVG has indicated, I don't see money being an issue. Jennings isn't going to get anything close to a max contract, and the Pistons will have money to sign free agents before re-signing Drummond and potentially going into lux tax, which Gores has not ruled out, as far as I have seen.

My question is not whether we re-sign Jennings, but what to do with Dinwiddie, Ersan and Meeks. Do we upgrade Ersans starting spot? Do we find a shooter to bring off the bench? What free agents would help us there? Who in the draft can contribute?

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K. Caldwell-Pope/????????
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