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Re: Vikings Postgame: On to Washington 

Post#121 » by humanrefutation » Mon Jan 4, 2016 11:33 pm

What I would like to see, honestly, is a thorough breakdown of our offensive struggles by an unbiased source that can give us an idea of why we're struggling so much with little turnover in the roster. Is the bulk of the blame on the players sucking? Is it the calls being made or the routes being run? Is Aaron just missing open guys?
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Post#122 » by RRyder823 » Tue Jan 5, 2016 12:24 am

humanrefutation wrote:What I would like to see, honestly, is a thorough breakdown of our offensive struggles by an unbiased source that can give us an idea of why we're struggling so much with little turnover in the roster. Is the bulk of the blame on the players sucking? Is it the calls being made or the routes being run? Is Aaron just missing open guys?


It's a little bit of all of that.

We've all seen the players on this offense play better than they have this season. The talents there. They just seem half a step off most of the time and when they have been successful they've shot themselves in the foot with penalties.

Easy answer is they need Jordy back the same as the Pats need Gronk in their lineup, and while that'll help alot, it won't stop Rodgers from missing guys, the Oline regressing and Cobb or Adams ability to catch. To me this offenses biggest issue is confidence
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Re: Vikings Postgame: On to Washington 

Post#123 » by Asher » Tue Jan 5, 2016 3:23 am

humanrefutation wrote:What I would like to see, honestly, is a thorough breakdown of our offensive struggles by an unbiased source that can give us an idea of why we're struggling so much with little turnover in the roster. Is the bulk of the blame on the players sucking? Is it the calls being made or the routes being run? Is Aaron just missing open guys?


Cosell just sorta did this:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/greg-cosell-s-film-review--the-problems-with-the-packers-offense-165250808.html
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Re: Vikings Postgame: On to Washington 

Post#124 » by slappyg » Tue Jan 5, 2016 4:23 am

seemed clear to me later in the game what our problem is. Many have said it but after seeing how things opened up for us after they went in prevent and stopped pressing, IT'S ALL ABOUT SPEED. Our receivers are so slow they are being pressed, no respect at all. You can't have all of your receivers be similar...you need some speed to open up the field. If we had 2 or 3 speed receivers then Jones could do great and Lacy could do better. Everything would loosen up. Adams needs to go though!
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Re: Vikings Postgame: On to Washington 

Post#125 » by Murphs56 » Tue Jan 5, 2016 5:44 am

WiscoKing13 wrote:Personally think we win easily, Redskins D is Raiders level without the second best pass rusher in the league. Nothing on their offense scars me. Our Offense is bad, but we can still put point on a bottom 10 D.


If Jordan Reed doesn't scare you, you don't watch much football.
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Re: Vikings Postgame: On to Washington 

Post#126 » by FAH1223 » Tue Jan 5, 2016 6:46 am

How the hell was the offense still putting up numbers without Rodgers in 2013 and Jarrett Boykin as the #3 and at times #2 WR???
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Re: Vikings Postgame: On to Washington 

Post#127 » by James1980 » Tue Jan 5, 2016 3:11 pm

FAH1223 wrote:How the hell was the offense still putting up numbers without Rodgers in 2013 and Jarrett Boykin as the #3 and at times #2 WR???


That's what I said the other day, that the offense looked better with Jarret Boykin.
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Re: Vikings Postgame: On to Washington 

Post#128 » by WiscoKing13 » Tue Jan 5, 2016 11:29 pm

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WiscoKing13 wrote:Personally think we win easily, Redskins D is Raiders level without the second best pass rusher in the league. Nothing on their offense scars me. Our Offense is bad, but we can still put point on a bottom 10 D.


If Jordan Reed doesn't scare you, you don't watch much football.

The guys not even top 30 in average yards per catch for receivers over 10 catches. 5th in yards and longest play is for 31 yards(40th in the league). 3rd in TD's, but hell R. Rodgers is 5th and isn't a game changer, just a red zone target. He also leads the league in fumbles.

So ya you have a pretty solid redzone target, congrats.
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Re: Vikings Postgame: On to Washington 

Post#129 » by Murphs56 » Wed Jan 6, 2016 12:50 am

WiscoKing13 wrote:
Murphs56 wrote:
WiscoKing13 wrote:Personally think we win easily, Redskins D is Raiders level without the second best pass rusher in the league. Nothing on their offense scars me. Our Offense is bad, but we can still put point on a bottom 10 D.


If Jordan Reed doesn't scare you, you don't watch much football.

The guys not even top 30 in average yards per catch for receivers over 10 catches. 5th in yards and longest play is for 31 yards(40th in the league). 3rd in TD's, but hell R. Rodgers is 5th and isn't a game changer, just a red zone target. He also leads the league in fumbles.

So ya you have a pretty solid redzone target, congrats.


Just to add, he was second in receptions among TE's (87), 3rd in YAC among TE's (466), 2nd among TE's in Touchdowns (11) and first among TE's in first downs (54) while playing only 14 games. But yeah he you're right, definitely don't need to worry about him.
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Re: Vikings Postgame: On to Washington 

Post#130 » by WiscoKing13 » Wed Jan 6, 2016 1:37 am

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If Jordan Reed doesn't scare you, you don't watch much football.

The guys not even top 30 in average yards per catch for receivers over 10 catches. 5th in yards and longest play is for 31 yards(40th in the league). 3rd in TD's, but hell R. Rodgers is 5th and isn't a game changer, just a red zone target. He also leads the league in fumbles.

So ya you have a pretty solid redzone target, congrats.


Just to add, he was second in receptions among TE's (87), 3rd in YAC among TE's (466), 2nd among TE's in Touchdowns (11) and first among TE's in first downs (54) while playing only 14 games. But yeah he you're right, definitely don't need to worry about him.

I guess being a Washington fan that equals a weapon in the NFL. Good luck this game and the future 5 years, you're going need it.
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Re: Vikings Postgame: On to Washington 

Post#131 » by Jollay » Wed Jan 6, 2016 3:39 pm

WiscoKing13 wrote:
Murphs56 wrote:
WiscoKing13 wrote:Personally think we win easily, Redskins D is Raiders level without the second best pass rusher in the league. Nothing on their offense scars me. Our Offense is bad, but we can still put point on a bottom 10 D.


If Jordan Reed doesn't scare you, you don't watch much football.

The guys not even top 30 in average yards per catch for receivers over 10 catches. 5th in yards and longest play is for 31 yards(40th in the league). 3rd in TD's, but hell R. Rodgers is 5th and isn't a game changer, just a red zone target. He also leads the league in fumbles.

So ya you have a pretty solid redzone target, congrats.


He's better than that. You have their speed stretching the field, such as DeSean Jackson. He has been absolute money the second half of the season.

I mean, he can't block, but yes, he's scary.
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Re: Vikings Postgame: On to Washington 

Post#132 » by James1980 » Wed Jan 6, 2016 5:28 pm

I wouldn't mind having Jordan Reed.
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Re: Vikings Postgame: On to Washington 

Post#133 » by Flames24Rulz » Wed Jan 6, 2016 5:30 pm

James1980 wrote:I wouldn't mind having Jordan Reed.


Yeah...he's pretty good.
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Re: RE: Re: Vikings Postgame: On to Washington 

Post#134 » by HKPackFan » Thu Jan 7, 2016 2:14 am

James1980 wrote:Need to get remove that 1 yard pass to Richard Rodgers from the playbook.



MM loves this much more than the Kuhn dive play. Never thought I'd find a play I liked less but at least Kuhn get get a yard more often than not. This is the worst play in the entire playbook and they go back to it constantly. Even when u have 10 seconds left in a game with 40 yards to go they still use it.

In my god damn flag football league if we ran a play that worked out that awful more than twice it would be immediately deleted and wiped away never to be run again but MM just keeps calling it like it's the frigging Packers sweep of the Lombardi era.
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