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Bontemps: Yormark would offer John Calipari "everything"

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Re: RE: Re: Bontemps: Yormark would offer John Calipari 

Post#41 » by NyCeEvO » Fri Jan 1, 2016 6:02 am

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:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: ...or Calipari could sign with Ranadive after they fire Karl in Sacramento, a city Cousins just professed he wants to help turn around

isn't their roster nearly 90% former Wildcats? nothing short of trading for Derrick Rose and him returning to MVP form in the next 3 months would even give the Nets a marginally better chance of swiping Demarcus from Sacramento :lol:

You say that the Nets have no continuity with their coaching staff but then you bring up the Kings as a team Calipari would be more interested in?

You think Calipari wants to work for an owner who dictates draft choices, recommends 4 on 5 defensive schemes because they worked in his daughter's school games, and who still has front office turmoil after owning the team for multiple years now?

The team that fired Mike Malone, who was doing an excellent job as head coach and even more importantly was approved by DMC, let Ty Corbin run the show for a while and then at mid-season hire George Karl, who at best has a rocky relationship with DMC?

This is the same team free agents avoided and even in some cases took less money to play elsewhere (even though they had players like DMC and Rudy Gay) because the front office/ownership dynamic was bad.

Proky is a GM's dream. An owner who allows you to spend and doesn't micro-manage your decisions. Ranadive's spending prowress hasn't been tested yet but his desire to intervene and turn his people into yes-men is a huge negative.

I remember when LBJ professed that he would do everything in his power to bring a championship to Cleveland before he signed with the Heat. I'm sure the intentions of both LBJ and DMC are genuine however others talked to LBJ and reminded him of how short a window he has to win and win big. DMC is already known as a career loser and many people believe that a change of scenery would be best for both parties.

I don't know how you can say the Nets have no chance but use the Kings as an example of a team Calipari would want to go to. I can't read his mind but it wouldn't make sense for a guy who has control of Kentucky to leave the NCAA and go to a place where he'd be following the orders of an owner who wants people to obey his wishes even though he doesn't know anything about NBA basketball.


Yeah, the Sacramento Kings are no different from the Nets except they have 3 former Wildcats already on their roster, including Demarcus Cousins...

So you're saying that Calipari wouldn't care a lick about being a GM. He only wants to spread Kentucky as everywhere as if that's the only school he's ever coached and has a connection to.

Ok...do you have any other logical response as to why Calipari would choose the Kings over everyone else outside of the fact that they have 3 Kentucky alumni?
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Re: Bontemps: Yormark would offer John Calipari 

Post#42 » by jbeachboy » Fri Jan 1, 2016 7:19 pm

i would prefer thibodeau over calipari, i love thibs gets his team to play tough nosed defense. i would love if nets went after thibodeau if they fire hollins.
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Re: Bontemps: Yormark would offer John Calipari 

Post#43 » by Prokorov » Sat Jan 2, 2016 2:15 am

i wouldnt mind thibs, but i dont think he is on the same level as calapari and im not sure he would come close as far as running or turning around a franchise.

thibs is a coach

calapari is a basketball savant.
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Re: Bontemps: Yormark would offer John Calipari 

Post#44 » by jbeachboy » Sat Jan 2, 2016 2:45 am

calipari has also never had any success in the nba. i dont see calipari leaving kentucky either. at least thibs had success in nba, calipari was average then with nets.
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Re: Bontemps: Yormark would offer John Calipari 

Post#45 » by Prokorov » Sat Jan 2, 2016 3:28 pm

jbeachboy wrote:calipari has also never had any success in the nba. i dont see calipari leaving kentucky either. at least thibs had success in nba, calipari was average then with nets.


how is turning a 29 win disaster team in the yinka dare era into a 43 win playoff team in just 2 seasons "no success in the NBA"

If you dont think calipari would leave kentucky, then you dont know much about the guy at all. he wants back in the NBA. when he gets the opportunity he likes, he will be back.

it seems alot of opinions here are based a ton on speculation. id suggest people read the guys books or research his career or read the NY times pieces/interviews on him.
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Re: Bontemps: Yormark would offer John Calipari 

Post#46 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Jan 2, 2016 5:21 pm

I have a hard time believing people who are killing Cal's Nets tenure watched the Nets the season they went to the playoffs. That squad was literally one of the best teams we've ever had here outside of the 1992-93 team, the Finals squad and the Kidd/VC teams.
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Re: Bontemps: Yormark would offer John Calipari 

Post#47 » by Prokorov » Sat Jan 2, 2016 6:13 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:I have a hard time believing people who are killing Cal's Nets tenure watched the Nets the season they went to the playoffs. That squad was literally one of the best teams we've ever had here outside of the 1992-93 team, the Finals squad and the Kidd/VC teams.


yup... the team was as good if not better then the VC era nets. and for those who didnt really become nets fans until 2000 or later, you really cant just look at 43 wins and a first round bounce and think thats all it was.

you think these are dark times now? it was worse back then. we are talking about the era after Coleman/Kenny Anderson/Petro/Daly had come to a crash and burn ending, ushering in an era of HORRIFIC lottery busts like ed O'bannon and yinka dare. you dont like hollins? imagine something 3 times as worse and you have the butch beard era.

You think barclays or newark where ghost towns? you could buy cheap seats and walk down to courtside at brendan byrne arena/izod center in the meadowlands. not to mention.

43 wins does NOT do that team justice. dont forget, van horn was a rookie, kittles a second year player. Jayson williams was a no one, as the team had siekly in there after moving on from shawn bradley. the team also had injuries early on. the first half of the season started slow, we finished strong though, the talk was teams were hoping we didnt make it cause we were the team no one wanted to face in the playoffs....

As luck had it, we ran into Jordan's Bulls on the back end of the second three-peat.

we took them into overtime on there floor in game 1
we had a 4 point lead in game 2 in chicago before losing by 5 after a missed late shot by gatling and some bulls FTs
game 3 they took it to us, back then it was just best of 5.

but we gave the jordan 3 peat bulls all they could handle in a 1 vs. 8 series.

that team was easily better then any brooklyn era nets team, and other then the prime-kidd nets, probably the best net team since 1985.
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Post#48 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Jan 2, 2016 6:55 pm

Yeah Williams/KVH/Gill/Kittles/Cassel was a nasty starting 5 w. Chris Gatling off of the bench
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Post#49 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 4, 2016 3:29 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Yeah Williams/KVH/Gill/Kittles/Cassel was a nasty starting 5 w. Chris Gatling off of the bench


yup... and that was also pre-injury kittles, who was headed toward being an all-star
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Re: Bontemps: Yormark would offer John Calipari 

Post#50 » by NyCeEvO » Tue Jan 5, 2016 12:59 pm

Kerry Kittles was my dude lol. I think I remember him helping out with Nets player development years after he retired. I wonder what he's up to now.
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Re: Bontemps: Yormark would offer John Calipari 

Post#51 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jan 5, 2016 3:10 pm

That summer following the loss vs. the Pistons was rough. K-Mart was gone, Kittles injured...it was depressing because the Nets had that two year run where they were just so fun to watch and exciting.
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Re: Bontemps: Yormark would offer John Calipari 

Post#52 » by NyCeEvO » Tue Jan 5, 2016 4:05 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:That summer following the loss vs. the Pistons was rough. K-Mart was gone, Kittles injured...it was depressing because the Nets had that two year run where they were just so fun to watch and exciting.

My head agreed with Kmart leaving (he was great but he skill level didn't warrant a 7yr/$92mil deal) but my heart really wanted him to stay. I knew once he left it would be the beginning of the end.
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Re: Bontemps: Yormark would offer John Calipari 

Post#53 » by jbeachboy » Tue Jan 5, 2016 6:36 pm

they werent going to win a title with kenyon martin anyway.

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