A petition for the firing Billy King (please help us)

[NyCeEvO]

Yormark has jumped into the foray and has implicitly indicting Billy by talking about the players needing to play better. He knows the roster is garbage and King tried to pass off the idea that this team would have a shot at the playoffs before the season started.

Yormark has also been talking about how great Calipari is. There have been several rumors about Proky looking for new GMs/front office right now.

It seems all but confirmed that upper management and ownership are already done with King. We can sit here and argue until we're blue in the face but it's quite clear that if Billy was simply a marionette, he wouldn't be getting this sort of treatment publicly. The owner and the CEO are counting down the days in public.

King (and Hollins) seem to be walking the plank and everyone is waiting until the end of the season to push them overboard.

Oh yeah, the knives have come out finally. I knew this was coming once Windrem started alluding to the fact that Yormark's voice regarding basketball operations was starting to grow. Now that may not be a good thing if he starts meddling in on court personnel decisions but I know this guy realizes what this stale product is doing to the franchise's long term health and success. No one will want to play for this team unless the bull **** stops and we get competent people running the show. That **** about Prok wanting to bring in the guy who runs CSKA is not what I want to hear. If Yormark wants to give Calipari the keys let him, I trust Cal more than I do the Russians, who have proven to be basketball dumb

I know Yormark has a bad reputation (and rightfully so) but I have to give him some credit this year.

He's been working his tail off with all of these promotions (e.g. CEO seats giveaway, Lopez Star Wars and Thaddiator bobblehead nights) and he's seeing that they're all for naught. Nets attendance has officially dipped below the Sixers lol.

He knows what is hitting the fans and the time for mincing words has long passed.

[CalamityX12]

we only have 6 more wins than the sixers....

wow!

[MrDollarBills]

Yormark has jumped into the foray and has implicitly indicting Billy by talking about the players needing to play better. He knows the roster is garbage and King tried to pass off the idea that this team would have a shot at the playoffs before the season started.

Yormark has also been talking about how great Calipari is. There have been several rumors about Proky looking for new GMs/front office right now.

It seems all but confirmed that upper management and ownership are already done with King. We can sit here and argue until we're blue in the face but it's quite clear that if Billy was simply a marionette, he wouldn't be getting this sort of treatment publicly. The owner and the CEO are counting down the days in public.

King (and Hollins) seem to be walking the plank and everyone is waiting until the end of the season to push them overboard.

Oh yeah, the knives have come out finally. I knew this was coming once Windrem started alluding to the fact that Yormark's voice regarding basketball operations was starting to grow. Now that may not be a good thing if he starts meddling in on court personnel decisions but I know this guy realizes what this stale product is doing to the franchise's long term health and success. No one will want to play for this team unless the bull **** stops and we get competent people running the show. That **** about Prok wanting to bring in the guy who runs CSKA is not what I want to hear. If Yormark wants to give Calipari the keys let him, I trust Cal more than I do the Russians, who have proven to be basketball dumb

I know Yormark has a bad reputation (and rightfully so) but I have to give him some credit this year.

He's been working his tail off with all of these promotions (e.g. CEO seats giveaway, Lopez Star Wars and Thaddiator bobblehead nights) and he's seeing that they're all for naught. Nets attendance has officially dipped below the Sixers lol.

He knows what is hitting the fans and the time for mincing words has long passed.

Someone on "that blog" listed what Yormark has managed to broker for this franchise in terms of endorsements and promotions and I was floored that you have a guy who is a genius at what he does getting stuff done on the business side of things for this franchise and its all being wasted because the basketball people are inept. And then you wonder why he took a **** on King by making the Calipari stuff public.

Billy King should be busy cleaning his office out. Summer is around the corner.

[SF_Warriors]

There were also folks that thought the price was too steep for a one year, MAYBE two year window for a championship with that group.

I'll have to admit, the Lopez injury really derailed things. The nets were looking like championship contenders, but most people knew the window was very narrow and had no margin for error.

Considering the Nets have never won an NBA championship I think it was well worth it. King was following directives from the Russians to win now PERIOD. He followed his marching orders and then Lopez's foot ended our championship aspirations.

I am not against making trades like those, but my point is that King consistently overpays on his contracts and trades, and he does this often. That is why I am boggled that you defend his actions as if those were the best alternatives he could have made.

DWill and Gwall - King made trades for guys who were free agents to be...He had to have known that the pick he traded for wallace was going to be a lotto pick.
Dwill I had no problem with the trade, but he did it WITHOUT securing a contract extension. DWill could have walked away, signed with Dallas and it would have gone down as one of the biggest blunders of all time...He then goes on and overpays both guys.

Johnson - JJ was regarded as having one of the worse, if not the worst contracts in the league at the time. Yet, King decided to give up picks for the worst contract in the NBA.

PP and KG - He simply payed too much to get both. Year two with those guys would have meant that PP and KG were 37 and 38, respectively. Easy to say, but in hindsight, that trade really crippled the franchise whether you are going to admit it or not. It may not be as flashy, but maybe he could have taken a different route to secure role players that complimented the "big three" at the time.

Price wasnt an issue for the Nets. Very few GMs have ever been given the freedom to spend like King did. Johnson contract was irrelevant with the budget King was working with. Lets not act like Johnson wasnt still one of the best SGs in the NBA at the time of the trade. He just wasnt worth what he was getting paid.

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The team's only method of rebuilding or retooling, whether the KG and PP trade worked or not, is through free agency.
Everyone knew this, but didnt see a problem with it.
I do not see too many players wanting to come aboard unless its an overpay. Best case scenario, I can see them trying to get conley and derozan, and start RHJ at SF with thad and lopez up front. That team I think can be competitive and hold their own against most teams.

Elite guys liek Durant will get paid anywhere they go. Most likely if they do relocate they would choose a situation with promising young talent and great management, things BKN at this moment lack. And I don't care you probably won't believe me, but I felt that Monroe was a great fit in milwaukee and new orleans.

And this is just your opinion. Based on Kings record, he has gotten a number of players to sign discount deals and found incredible values in FA.

- Mirza was suppose to get the full MLE but King got him to agree to the mini MLE
- AK opted out of a 10 mil salary to sign for the minimum.
- King signed Blatche, Alan Anderson, Shawn Livingston and Gerald Green to minimum contracts which they all vastly outproduced. By the end of the year we might have to add Willie Reed and Shane Larkin to that group.

The last time we had cap to spend (2012) we signed the top 2 free agents (DWill and Lopez) even if they were resigned. Neither was restricted so they could have went anywhere.

King has a good relationship with most agents and players. The way he handled both Mirza and DWill this off season speaks to this. Mirza was a restricted FA and wanted to leave. King could have played hard ball and try to haggle with the new team that he was going to sign with but he let Mirza go. DWill was under contract here but unhappy and wanted out. King agreed to buy him out in a timely fashion so he could explore free agency while teams still had $ to spend. That builds good will in free agency because it shows King respects the players. You think Sam Hinkie is winning fans over with the way he constantly screws the players?

I dont see why free agents wouldnt sign here. We arent in NJ anymore. If you consider Brooklyn a stand alone city, it's the 5th largest in the NBA behind only NY, LA, Chicago and Toronto. The organization in NJ was a mess. We played in one of the shttiest arenas in all of sports. We didnt have a practice facility worthy of a professional organization. That stuff matters in free agency. Players are familiar with Barclays now so they have a better idea of what it will be like if they come to Brooklyn.

Im more concerned with the quality of free agents. I think it's a lock that Durant is going to stay on a short term deal in OKC with a player option for next year. If he waits he gets 35% of the cap instead of 30% and the overall salary cap will be higher. After Durant, the rest of free agency doesnt really excite me. I would rather take a chance on Barnes or Beal because they are very young instead of getting someone like Horford or Conley. DeRozan is more of a compromise between youth and production.

Lastly, Thad has been having a great season, kudos to him. However, he is not going to put up 17 & 9 on a team contending for a top seed in the playoffs, which is why I am hesitant to call him one of the best PFs in the league.

I dont see why he wouldn't. Thad is getting his numbers without plays being called for him. He would likely have even better numbers on a playoff team when you consider that the Nets play a half court game and are middle of the pack in pace. One of Thad's biggest strengths is in the full court and he doesnt get to show that often with the slowpokes we have. Lopez is one of the slowest Centers in the NBA. Johnson is one of the slowest SFs in the NBA. Bogdanovic is one of the slowest SGs in the NBA. He is often the only guy running in the open court. Thad has 103 possessions in transition. Bogs is 2nd on the team with 67.

It is easy to add bargain FA like livingston, blatche, green etc. especially for coming off the bench when the team looked as good on paper as they did after trading for PP and KG. I meant in their current situation, BKN will be hard pressed to find someone willing to take at or below market value for their services, especially starters who can easily sign with better teams. It is hard to attract good FAs when a team has horrible management, and a bleak next few years with the pick situation.

Are you high on RHJ? Because if you are, I am not sure how signing barnes would help his development as they play the same position.. Beal would be a good pick up for you guys, but both he and HB are restricted FA and may be hard to pry from their current teams unless BKN throws a crap ton of money at them.

And when talking about overpaying, sure money was not an issue, but trading all those first rounders and swaps really has hurt the team. And I think I heard someone say the nets do not have their second round pick until 2020?
If the nets strike out in FA, the rebuilding process will be a long, slow one. Will be interesting to see their FA targets this offseason. There are quite a few intriguing players out there.

[MrDollarBills]

RHJ will play either wing position it doesn't really matter.

[jbeachboy]

i think barnes and rhj can switch between sg and sf, they are very similar positions.

[SF_Warriors]

I think barnes and RHJ are more "forwards" than shooting guards. But if RHJ can guard NBA SGs, it shouldnt be that much of a problem on defense. HB is not going to be bale to guard most shooting guards. Offensively, I see them as poor compliment to each other on the wings. Neither guy can create for themselves consistently, and RHJ has poor range for a SF let alone a guard.

[Mosdefinition]

There were also folks that thought the price was too steep for a one year, MAYBE two year window for a championship with that group.

I'll have to admit, the Lopez injury really derailed things. The nets were looking like championship contenders, but most people knew the window was very narrow and had no margin for error.

Considering the Nets have never won an NBA championship I think it was well worth it. King was following directives from the Russians to win now PERIOD. He followed his marching orders and then Lopez's foot ended our championship aspirations.

I am not against making trades like those, but my point is that King consistently overpays on his contracts and trades, and he does this often. That is why I am boggled that you defend his actions as if those were the best alternatives he could have made.

DWill and Gwall - King made trades for guys who were free agents to be...He had to have known that the pick he traded for wallace was going to be a lotto pick.
Dwill I had no problem with the trade, but he did it WITHOUT securing a contract extension. DWill could have walked away, signed with Dallas and it would have gone down as one of the biggest blunders of all time...He then goes on and overpays both guys.

Johnson - JJ was regarded as having one of the worse, if not the worst contracts in the league at the time. Yet, King decided to give up picks for the worst contract in the NBA.

PP and KG - He simply payed too much to get both. Year two with those guys would have meant that PP and KG were 37 and 38, respectively. Easy to say, but in hindsight, that trade really crippled the franchise whether you are going to admit it or not. It may not be as flashy, but maybe he could have taken a different route to secure role players that complimented the "big three" at the time.

Price wasnt an issue for the Nets. Very few GMs have ever been given the freedom to spend like King did. Johnson contract was irrelevant with the budget King was working with. Lets not act like Johnson wasnt still one of the best SGs in the NBA at the time of the trade. He just wasnt worth what he was getting paid.

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The team's only method of rebuilding or retooling, whether the KG and PP trade worked or not, is through free agency.
Everyone knew this, but didnt see a problem with it.
I do not see too many players wanting to come aboard unless its an overpay. Best case scenario, I can see them trying to get conley and derozan, and start RHJ at SF with thad and lopez up front. That team I think can be competitive and hold their own against most teams.

Elite guys liek Durant will get paid anywhere they go. Most likely if they do relocate they would choose a situation with promising young talent and great management, things BKN at this moment lack. And I don't care you probably won't believe me, but I felt that Monroe was a great fit in milwaukee and new orleans.

And this is just your opinion. Based on Kings record, he has gotten a number of players to sign discount deals and found incredible values in FA.

- Mirza was suppose to get the full MLE but King got him to agree to the mini MLE
- AK opted out of a 10 mil salary to sign for the minimum.
- King signed Blatche, Alan Anderson, Shawn Livingston and Gerald Green to minimum contracts which they all vastly outproduced. By the end of the year we might have to add Willie Reed and Shane Larkin to that group.

The last time we had cap to spend (2012) we signed the top 2 free agents (DWill and Lopez) even if they were resigned. Neither was restricted so they could have went anywhere.

King has a good relationship with most agents and players. The way he handled both Mirza and DWill this off season speaks to this. Mirza was a restricted FA and wanted to leave. King could have played hard ball and try to haggle with the new team that he was going to sign with but he let Mirza go. DWill was under contract here but unhappy and wanted out. King agreed to buy him out in a timely fashion so he could explore free agency while teams still had $ to spend. That builds good will in free agency because it shows King respects the players. You think Sam Hinkie is winning fans over with the way he constantly screws the players?

I dont see why free agents wouldnt sign here. We arent in NJ anymore. If you consider Brooklyn a stand alone city, it's the 5th largest in the NBA behind only NY, LA, Chicago and Toronto. The organization in NJ was a mess. We played in one of the shttiest arenas in all of sports. We didnt have a practice facility worthy of a professional organization. That stuff matters in free agency. Players are familiar with Barclays now so they have a better idea of what it will be like if they come to Brooklyn.

Im more concerned with the quality of free agents. I think it's a lock that Durant is going to stay on a short term deal in OKC with a player option for next year. If he waits he gets 35% of the cap instead of 30% and the overall salary cap will be higher. After Durant, the rest of free agency doesnt really excite me. I would rather take a chance on Barnes or Beal because they are very young instead of getting someone like Horford or Conley. DeRozan is more of a compromise between youth and production.

Lastly, Thad has been having a great season, kudos to him. However, he is not going to put up 17 & 9 on a team contending for a top seed in the playoffs, which is why I am hesitant to call him one of the best PFs in the league.

I dont see why he wouldn't. Thad is getting his numbers without plays being called for him. He would likely have even better numbers on a playoff team when you consider that the Nets play a half court game and are middle of the pack in pace. One of Thad's biggest strengths is in the full court and he doesnt get to show that often with the slowpokes we have. Lopez is one of the slowest Centers in the NBA. Johnson is one of the slowest SFs in the NBA. Bogdanovic is one of the slowest SGs in the NBA. He is often the only guy running in the open court. Thad has 103 possessions in transition. Bogs is 2nd on the team with 67.

It is easy to add bargain FA like livingston, blatche, green etc. especially for coming off the bench when the team looked as good on paper as they did after trading for PP and KG. I meant in their current situation, BKN will be hard pressed to find someone willing to take at or below market value for their services, especially starters who can easily sign with better teams. It is hard to attract good FAs when a team has horrible management, and a bleak next few years with the pick situation.

Are you high on RHJ? Because if you are, I am not sure how signing barnes would help his development as they play the same position.. Beal would be a good pick up for you guys, but both he and HB are restricted FA and may be hard to pry from their current teams unless BKN throws a crap ton of money at them.

And when talking about overpaying, sure money was not an issue, but trading all those first rounders and swaps really has hurt the team. And I think I heard someone say the nets do not have their second round pick until 2020?
If the nets strike out in FA, the rebuilding process will be a long, slow one. Will be interesting to see their FA targets this offseason. There are quite a few intriguing players out there.

I dont think Barnes will be hard to get if youre willing to max him out

and because of th cap going up its not a huge risk to max him out

the nets have there own picks again starting in 2019 so if hes bad and the team is bad they can tank

[Prokorov]

I dont think Barnes will be hard to get if youre willing to max him out

and because of the cap going up its not a huge risk to max him out

the nets have there own picks again starting in 2019 so if hes bad and the team is bad they can tank

i disagree about it being a huge risk.

We have little pick wise until 19-20. if we max him, even with the cap going up, we are investing over 60% of our cap on lopez/thad/barnes, if barnes proves he is a role player and not a rising star, that means being bad with no picks AND no longer having cap room to imrpove.

also, the cap is likely to go back down after 17-18 season

[CalamityX12]

one win for every 7 games played...

10 wins in 2 full months n change.....

it's god awful... we're not even as close as competitive as we were in the beginning of the season... sure we're actually making more 3s now than before but everything is falling off....

[Net Sentence]

one win for every 7 games played...

10 wins in 2 full months n change.....

it's god awful... we're not even as close as competitive as we were in the beginning of the season... sure we're actually making more 3s now than before but everything is falling off....

Losing your starting back court hasnt helped.

[Paradise]

one win for every 7 games played...

10 wins in 2 full months n change.....

it's god awful... we're not even as close as competitive as we were in the beginning of the season... sure we're actually making more 3s now than before but everything is falling off....

It was bound to happen. Injuries play a part in it but lack of shooting talent, subpar coaching and defensive talent will eventually start to wear down the energy and spirit of a team over the course of a season.

As much as Lopez can be baby sh*t soft. He at least consistently tries to keep this team afloat. Same thing with Thaddeus. There's absolutely no excuse why those two are still trying to compete but Joe can mentally check out. I understand he's declining but he isn't even trying anymore. His decision making is atrocious for a 15 year veteran.

[Mosdefinition]

I dont think Barnes will be hard to get if youre willing to max him out

and because of the cap going up its not a huge risk to max him out

the nets have there own picks again starting in 2019 so if hes bad and the team is bad they can tank

i disagree about it being a huge risk.

We have little pick wise until 19-20. if we max him, even with the cap going up, we are investing over 60% of our cap on lopez/thad/barnes, if barnes proves he is a role player and not a rising star, that means being bad with no picks AND no longer having cap room to imrpove.

also, the cap is likely to go back down after 17-18 season

the nets have the celtics pick next season

i know it doesnt seem like it but 2019 really isnt that far away

[Prokorov]

I dont think Barnes will be hard to get if youre willing to max him out

and because of the cap going up its not a huge risk to max him out

the nets have there own picks again starting in 2019 so if hes bad and the team is bad they can tank

i disagree about it being a huge risk.

We have little pick wise until 19-20. if we max him, even with the cap going up, we are investing over 60% of our cap on lopez/thad/barnes, if barnes proves he is a role player and not a rising star, that means being bad with no picks AND no longer having cap room to imrpove.

also, the cap is likely to go back down after 17-18 season

the nets have the celtics pick next season

i know it doesnt seem like it but 2019 really isnt that far away

2019 IS a long way away. thats 3 seasons. thats an eternity in the NBA. 95% of our roster wont be here in 2019.

think about the turmoil our last 3 seasons... and that was with us making the playoffs all 3 years! now imagine that same length of time, winning 30 games each year with no playoffs and no picks

[Lamak]

If this man isn't removed from the front office by the end of this year/season, I don't know what I will think about this management going forward. Even with the lack of talent and all, it seems they don't even really have a plan on who they want to develop, because they all suck so bad.

[King_Supreme]

i disagree about it being a huge risk.

We have little pick wise until 19-20. if we max him, even with the cap going up, we are investing over 60% of our cap on lopez/thad/barnes, if barnes proves he is a role player and not a rising star, that means being bad with no picks AND no longer having cap room to imrpove.

also, the cap is likely to go back down after 17-18 season

the nets have the celtics pick next season

i know it doesnt seem like it but 2019 really isnt that far away

2019 IS a long way away. thats 3 seasons. thats an eternity in the NBA. 95% of our roster wont be here in 2019.

think about the turmoil our last 3 seasons... and that was with us making the playoffs all 3 years! now imagine that same length of time, winning 30 games each year with no playoffs and no picks

Realistically the Nets won't get any big time FA's that can turn them into title contenders. Might as well go after the RFA wings(Fournier; Beal, Fournier) than max out guys who are on the decline/won't get better(Derosan; Horford, Batum). At least with the RFA's, there's a chance that may grow into stars, it's unlikely someone 6+ years in will turn into a cornerstone. Signing Barnes won't prevent you from getting Westbrook or Harden, because they're not going to come to NY anyway. You sign a RFA, then in the next 2 seasons see if he can become great, after those 2 years tank.

[NyCeEvO]

i disagree about it being a huge risk.

We have little pick wise until 19-20. if we max him, even with the cap going up, we are investing over 60% of our cap on lopez/thad/barnes, if barnes proves he is a role player and not a rising star, that means being bad with no picks AND no longer having cap room to imrpove.

also, the cap is likely to go back down after 17-18 season

the nets have the celtics pick next season

i know it doesnt seem like it but 2019 really isnt that far away

2019 IS a long way away. thats 3 seasons. thats an eternity in the NBA. 95% of our roster wont be here in 2019.

think about the turmoil our last 3 seasons... and that was with us making the playoffs all 3 years! now imagine that same length of time, winning 30 games each year with no playoffs and no picks

I used to think that waiting until 2019 would be manageable but given how long this season has felt already. We're not even halfway through the season yet and it feels like the Nets have been at the bottom forever. There's no way the Nets can stay as currently constituted and hope to retain any semblance of a fanbase.

At the same time, I don't think the Nets should rush out and try to force their way into mediocrity just to avoid handing Boston 3 straight high lotto picks.

The Nets need to find a middle approach where they maximize their assets and try to find a way to make the team attractive heading into 2017 free agency. I've said it several times but 2017 is WAY better than 2016 and having an extra year to prepare for it is key.

Plenty of teams have retained their fanbase and have kept things interesting while being terrible for many seasons. The Timberwolves haven't been to the playoffs in 11 seasons, the Kings in 9 seasons, the Pistons in 6, and the Suns in 5. Yet each team has a sizable and rather optimistic fanbase. (It wasn't until a recent spat of injuries that the Suns situation took a major dive and they are still looking forward to the rise of Booker.)

The difference between the Nets and those teams is that those teams have given their fanbases hope with young, talented players and high lotto picks. Since the Nets don't have those, the present and the future are quite grim.

We know we're not going to get anywhere close to making the playoffs. With that being the case, the Nets should bite the bullet and not act like they can predict what spot they need to be in to avoid giving Boston the #1 spot. Even if the Nets have the worst record in the league, there is only a 25% that they would get the #1 pick. Besides, there are several teams in the West that are tanking hard and we're only 2.5 games away from the 7th-worst spot.

IMO, the Nets need to see what they can get for JJ, Lopez, and probably Thad as well.

Rumored deals like trading Bogs for Lin+2nd rounder are ones you take because you gain assets, potentially free up more cap space, create a little bit of buzz and get a PG who we know can spot start if the Nets decide to re-sign him.

Thad and Lopez are putting up great box score numbers but they aren't translating into wins. Go to teams that want to gear up for the playoffs and see what they are willing to give up.

Maybe let Lopez go to MIA in a multi-team deal (with the reports of MIA not having faith in Whiteside) and you ask for expiring salary and picks in return.

Everything should be driven toward accumulating assets because you're either going to end up drafting a very good player or trying to trade for one with the assets accumulated. (The Nets have forgotten that prime assets are what was used to get D-Will in the first place.)

There's no need for the Nets to continue in their lunacy. Blow it up this season, get picks and cap space, sign players to 1+1 deals like the Knicks did this past offseason, and make the team relevant again so that it doesn't look like pig with lipstick on in 2017 because that's the way it looks heading into a rather unimpressive 2016 free agency.

[CalamityX12]

47 games to go(about)......

we're at 10-25 IIRC

we could go 30-17 from here on out and finish 40-42....

LMAO.... yea ok.... like that's going to happen?

[MrDollarBills]

If we can get two late lottery to mid round firsts and cap relief for Thad/Lopez, fine. I say pull the plug. We'll be gifting Boston two stud players in the mean time more than likely in consecutive drafts but we'll have to just block that from our minds.

Basically, the middle ground is to accumulate as many picks as possible and cap space. We'll have a pick in next year's draft. If we can get two firsts in this year's draft to begin rebuilding I'm all for it. No sense to drag this out any longer. Instruct King to have a firesale and them fire him. At least the next GM will have something to work with.

This franchise needs to start fresh. Deluding ourselves with names like Derozan, Beal etc is pointless. Why would those guys come here unless we offer poison pill contracts?

[NyCeEvO]

If we can get two late lottery to mid round firsts and cap relief for Thad/Lopez, fine. I say pull the plug. We'll be gifting Boston two stud players in the mean time more than likely in consecutive drafts but we'll have to just block that from our minds.

Basically, the middle ground is to accumulate as many picks as possible and cap space. We'll have a pick in next year's draft. If we can get two firsts in this year's draft to begin rebuilding I'm all for it. No sense to drag this out any longer. Instruct King to have a firesale and them fire him. At least the next GM will have something to work with.

This franchise needs to start fresh. Deluding ourselves with names like Derozan, Beal etc is pointless. Why would those guys come here unless we offer poison pill contracts?

Yes. And then we'd be right back to square one.

Beal has missed extended time every single year with his leg issues. It's one thing to draft someone injury-prone like Lopez. But paying premium dollar for damaged goods is even worse. Why would I spend my money on something that I know is defective and I know I'll have to overpay to get? Makes zero sense.