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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#61 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Jan 6, 2016 6:09 am

Cammo101 wrote:I like Stefan Jankovic from Hawaii a lot. Moves really well for a guy his size. Though he's a junior and not likely declaring.


Hawaii has three players with near NBA talent: Jankovic, Aaron Valdes, and their IMO best player, Roderick Bobbitt.

Bobbitt is IMO every bit as good as former Big West player Ramon Sessions.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#62 » by No-Man » Thu Jan 7, 2016 10:49 am

Jessie Govan is a really weird prospect, big bodied guy with a knack for the boards and a sweet jumper.
really young as well, puzzling.

+Ben Bentil, such a bull, remembers me of Terrence Jones, really fun to watch.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#63 » by rapz101 » Thu Jan 7, 2016 11:47 am

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg0V2soRlcc[/youtube]

I really Like Marcus Paige and Xavier Rathan Mayes...Solely enjoyed their back and forth game

Paige sorta reminds me of mike conley a bit, maybe less tenacious, but still, Paige's secret athleticism catch you off guard every now and then...whoever this guy drops too, will get the steal of the draft. I know you can't put much stock in mock drafts, but dude is rated as a low 2nd round pick (50's), at that pick, hes a sure fire steal.

and XRM just lights it up, and is leading the NCAA in assist per game...for a guy thats coined as a scorer, hes really changed his tune, scoring less, taking less FG per game and less 3's per game, and upping his assist by 1.3, and shooting a significantly better ft% this yr (80% compared to 69% last yr).

Not to mention he steps up in big games, gave UNC 35 pts last yr, gave UNC 30 pts this yr.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#64 » by doordoor123 » Thu Jan 7, 2016 2:23 pm

rapz101 wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg0V2soRlcc[/youtube]

I really Like Marcus Paige and Xavier Rathan Mayes...Solely enjoyed their back and forth game

Paige sorta reminds me of mike conley a bit, maybe less tenacious, but still, Paige's secret athleticism catch you off guard every now and then...whoever this guy drops too, will get the steal of the draft. I know you can't put much stock in mock drafts, but dude is rated as a low 2nd round pick (50's), at that pick, hes a sure fire steal.

and XRM just lights it up, and is leading the NCAA in assist per game...for a guy thats coined as a scorer, hes really changed his tune, scoring less, taking less FG per game and less 3's per game, and upping his assist by 1.3, and shooting a significantly better ft% this yr (80% compared to 69% last yr).

Not to mention he steps up in big games, gave UNC 35 pts last yr, gave UNC 30 pts this yr.


Paige is actually having a good shooting year. He's the kind of guy you fall in love with at first and it dies down as you follow him. I've just seen a lot of him these past three years and haven't followed him this year yet. He's 6'0 with a 6'2 wingspan, but hopefully for him those measurements are wrong. He doesn't have the handles or finishing ability of a starter and doesnt have great vision (it's just good). He's like Brain Roberts.

Rathan-Mayes is a hot and cold player that is already 23, with a good body and average athleticism. I think he can be a steal, but he's not advanced enough for someone that's 23 playing against college kids.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#65 » by Slartibartfast » Thu Jan 7, 2016 6:48 pm

sweetcity wrote:I'd say Denzel Valentine at this point, he's going to be a good role player... Danny Green 2.0. He will have a long and profitable $$$$ career


Danny Green could never pass like Valentine (though Valentine doesn't have Green's defensive speed).

I think Valentine can be Evan Turner with a 3-point shot and without the Messiah complex.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#66 » by ZUDAMAGIC » Thu Jan 7, 2016 10:49 pm

doordoor123 wrote:
rapz101 wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg0V2soRlcc[/youtube]

I really Like Marcus Paige and Xavier Rathan Mayes...Solely enjoyed their back and forth game

Paige sorta reminds me of mike conley a bit, maybe less tenacious, but still, Paige's secret athleticism catch you off guard every now and then...whoever this guy drops too, will get the steal of the draft. I know you can't put much stock in mock drafts, but dude is rated as a low 2nd round pick (50's), at that pick, hes a sure fire steal.

and XRM just lights it up, and is leading the NCAA in assist per game...for a guy thats coined as a scorer, hes really changed his tune, scoring less, taking less FG per game and less 3's per game, and upping his assist by 1.3, and shooting a significantly better ft% this yr (80% compared to 69% last yr).

Not to mention he steps up in big games, gave UNC 35 pts last yr, gave UNC 30 pts this yr.


Paige is actually having a good shooting year. He's the kind of guy you fall in love with at first and it dies down as you follow him. I've just seen a lot of him these past three years and haven't followed him this year yet. He's 6'0 with a 6'2 wingspan, but hopefully for him those measurements are wrong. He doesn't have the handles or finishing ability of a starter and doesnt have great vision (it's just good). He's like Brain Roberts.

Rathan-Mayes is a hot and cold player that is already 23, with a good body and average athleticism. I think he can be a steal, but he's not advanced enough for someone that's 23 playing against college kids.

X is only 21 right now. I really think hes the type to up his stock in the tourney seems like a big time player.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#67 » by rapz101 » Thu Jan 7, 2016 11:52 pm

ZUDAMAGIC wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:
Paige is actually having a good shooting year. He's the kind of guy you fall in love with at first and it dies down as you follow him. I've just seen a lot of him these past three years and haven't followed him this year yet. He's 6'0 with a 6'2 wingspan, but hopefully for him those measurements are wrong. He doesn't have the handles or finishing ability of a starter and doesnt have great vision (it's just good). He's like Brain Roberts.

Rathan-Mayes is a hot and cold player that is already 23, with a good body and average athleticism. I think he can be a steal, but he's not advanced enough for someone that's 23 playing against college kids.

X is only 21 right now. I really think hes the type to up his stock in the tourney seems like a big time player.


yea hes gunna be 22 by the time the draft hits, XRM that is. --> http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Xavier-Rathan-Mayes-7170/

I think Paige may be a bit taller than 6'0, he plays like it, and i think he has pretty good court vision especially for a smaller guard. If he can translate his good shooting year, hes definitely going to find a spot in the league somewhere.

XRM is just a microwave, you are right he does have hot and cold stretches, hes a bigger guard and has a decent handle...Last yr FSU was crap and we didnt get to see them in the big tourney, I'm really excited to see how this kid plays in bigger games, hes given me every indication that he can blow up, especially playing in the hardest conference in the NCAA.

*slight correction on my first post, XRM is leading the ACC in assist per game not the NCAA.

Beasley and Bacon both r solid targets to pass it too for XRM, and hes still managed to get 'his' while feeding those two freshmen, This FSU team is gunna be fun to watch.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#68 » by sweetcity » Fri Jan 8, 2016 6:18 pm

Slartibartfast wrote:
sweetcity wrote:I'd say Denzel Valentine at this point, he's going to be a good role player... Danny Green 2.0. He will have a long and profitable $$$$ career


Danny Green could never pass like Valentine (though Valentine doesn't have Green's defensive speed).

I think Valentine can be Evan Turner with a 3-point shot and without the Messiah complex.


to that point, with the new CBA, this type of player at $2m a year is going to be really really valuable IMO
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#69 » by Talent Chaser » Fri Jan 8, 2016 7:32 pm

Marc Loving from OSU is another guy to keep an eye on. He is a 6'8" 21 year old combo forward with a 7'1.5" wingspan. This season he's averaging 15/6/2 with a 56% TS. His 3 point shooting is a little down from 46% on 3 attempts per game last season to 35% on 5 attempts this season. If he can become more of a knockdown shooter and get a little stronger he could be a rotation player at the next level. James Jones esque.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#70 » by Dr Positivity » Sat Jan 9, 2016 1:20 am

Monte Morris is having a good PG season, averaging 15.4 pts/8.3 assists/4.5 rebounds/2.6 steals per 40 with 1.6 turnovers
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#71 » by TKainZero » Sat Jan 9, 2016 7:48 am

Liked what I saw from issac Hamilton from ucla vs Arizona

Could have potential as a 3&d SG
I liked his play, his movement without the ball
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Post#72 » by doordoor123 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:05 pm

Okay guy, another real sleeper -- Bennie Boatright freshman from USC.

My dad went to the triple overtime USC game and came to me raving about him. He thinks he's a first round pick. I looked at his numbers and I was surprised I hadn't heard of him. I'm going to watch him against UCLA and see how he fairs.
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Post#73 » by Gomes3PC » Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:55 pm

Trevon Bluiett is someone to keep an eye out for. Very good size at SG with a 6-6, 210 pound frame, shooting 40% from deep on 6 attempts per game, and pulls down rebounds at a good rate (7 per game in 30 MPG).

He's probably a 2017 prospect but shooters are always in demand.
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Post#74 » by doordoor123 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:41 am

Chimezie Metu from USC looks like he could be REALLY good.
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Post#75 » by No-Man » Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:31 am

Jawun Evans just put up 42, he basically plays alone at OSU, great leader even though he is small, good athlete, good frame, can shoot it, he and Aaron Holiday are intriguin.
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Post#76 » by doordoor123 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:17 pm

Fischella wrote:Jawun Evans just put up 42, he basically plays alone at OSU, great leader even though he is small, good athlete, good frame, can shoot it, he and Aaron Holiday are intriguin.


I really like what I saw from Jawun Evans. He's quick, strong and can do everything. He has a 6'4 wingspan at 6'1. Holiday was measured 6'0, but also 5'11. At the same time Holiday's wingspan is 6'6. What impresses me most about him is his defense. I'd still like to see Holiday be a 3-4 year player in college.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#77 » by SlowPaced » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:14 am

Thoughts on Kyle Wiltjer? He's been on a scoring rampage lately, 30, 32, 35 and 25 in his last four games. Can he be anything more than a Ryan Kelly at the next level?
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Post#78 » by Onus » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:22 am

Gomes3PC wrote:He's about to turn 23 and probably not good enough of an athlete to stick, but Jared Uthoff should at least be watched. 6-9 with good length, shooting 45% from 3 on 4.4 attempts/game, 3.3 blocks per game as well.

I like him, think he has a chance to stick as a role player somewhere.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#79 » by No-Man » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:06 am

SlowPaced wrote:Thoughts on Kyle Wiltjer? He's been on a scoring rampage lately, 30, 32, 35 and 25 in his last four games. Can he be anything more than a Ryan Kelly at the next level?

he is going to end up in Europe, really weak physically, plus stiff, he can barely move.
Uthoff is more interesting for example.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#80 » by SlowPaced » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:23 am

Fischella wrote:
SlowPaced wrote:Thoughts on Kyle Wiltjer? He's been on a scoring rampage lately, 30, 32, 35 and 25 in his last four games. Can he be anything more than a Ryan Kelly at the next level?

he is going to end up in Europe, really weak physically, plus stiff, he can barely move.
Uthoff is more interesting for example.


I think he can stick around in the league but at a Matt Bonner/Ryan Kelly level. The guy is a very good shooter and knows where to position himself. It's probably gonna be up to him whether he'll look to stay a bench warmer/role player in the NBA or look to become a serious contributor in Europe.

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