2015-16 German Bundesliga Discussion Thread

[Det the Threat]

Yeah, that would make sense, too. Heldt always manages to stand in his own way lol.

Good for Hertha to sign him. That buy back clause is a killer, though. They are basically developing him for Bayern then. Shouldve rather paid 5 mil. then accepting a buy back clause. But of course Bayern probably says we are not going to sell without a buy back clause.

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Well either this, or I'll need to start my eyes more regularly.
I also doubt that Bayern was ever interested in giving Kurt away without a buyback given what they went through to get him.

BTW: You guys just signed Karim Onisiwo of Mattersburg.
Kid has quite some talent, is an austrian international and comes on a "free transfer" after his contract with Mattersburg was terminated late last year.

cgf's Union Berlin has signed cb Emanuel Pogatetz.

[cgf]

So we've signed Pogatetz lol. Guess we need more red cards in the ruckrunde...makes sense, my first league team has xhaka and Union needed to respond...

In other news BVB and Zivkovic seems to be more and more of a sure thing. That would be a great get for them. The young Serb could be everything they had hoped Januzaj would be. If they signed him and Soriano this winter they'd look really good for the back half of the season even though they could still use a Ramos upgrade and a Subotic upgrade.

[Baphomet]

So we've signed Pogatetz lol. Guess we need more red cards in the ruckrunde...makes sense, my first league team has xhaka and Union needed to respond...

I'll never forget when he obliterated Rodrigo Possebon's legs when he was playing for Middlesbrough.

[Foye]

Why is Hertha interested in signing Andre Hahn Nathan?
Isn't he injured for the rest of the season anyway?

I wonder Preetz didn't try to go for Kirchhoff, Rode and Gaudino as well. Normally, his business is to sign as many former Bayern players as possible, right? Although, in case of Kurt and Gaudino he definitely has a case.

BTW: You guys just signed Karim Onisiwo of Mattersburg.
Kid has quite some talent, is an austrian international and comes on a "free transfer" after his contract with Mattersburg was terminated late last year.

I have no idea who this guy is and no idea why we signed him. We don't even have a hole at backup winger positions either.
I'd much rather see guys from the 3rd league team given a chance as backup players then always sign 10 guys nobody has never heard of every offseason. That would also keep more money available to sign main starting players.
To Heidel's credit at least 3-4 of those 10 guys always turn out well, though, which is more than enough to make profit with their sales in the end.

I mean even this offseason alone...you have Muto and Latza as hits and Cordoba, Niederlechner, Bussmann, Sereno, Balogun, Beister as most likely miss...with Frei and Curci not being judged because Frei went down too soon and Curci because he was just signed to be backup keeper and doesn't even have a chance to play unless Karius is hurt.
That's 2 vs. 6 not the best hit/miss ratio if you ask me. Basically, they wasted a lot of money on six guys that could've been used for another quality guy.

[Det the Threat]

Why is Hertha interested in signing Andre Hahn Nathan?
Isn't he injured for the rest of the season anyway?

I wonder Preetz didn't try to go for Kirchhoff, Rode and Gaudino as well. Normally, his business is to sign as many former Bayern players as possible, right? Although, in case of Kurt and Gaudino he definitely has a case.

Hertha's said to be interested in him for the summer and Hahn's supposedly going to be back training in late January/early February, if Eberl's right.

I have no idea who this guy is and no idea why we signed him. We don't even have a hole at backup winger positions either.
I'd much rather see guys from the 3rd league team given a chance as backup players than always sign 10 guys nobody has never heard of every offseason. That would also keep more money available to sign main starting players.
To Heidel's credit at least 3-4 of those 10 guys always turn out well, though.

Pretty talented guy already playing for the austrian national team.
Though, there seems to be some legal stuff going on as his contract was terminated by a judge and with the former club appealing it.

[Foye]

I have no idea who this guy is and no idea why we signed him. We don't even have a hole at backup winger positions either.
I'd much rather see guys from the 3rd league team given a chance as backup players than always sign 10 guys nobody has never heard of every offseason. That would also keep more money available to sign main starting players.
To Heidel's credit at least 3-4 of those 10 guys always turn out well, though.

Pretty talented guy already playing for the austrian national team.
Though, there seems to be some legal stuff going on as his contract was terminated by a judge and with the former club appealing it.

He might be talented, yes. But Heidel in the introductory press release basically described him as a "Perspektivspieler" which we currently have like 120 of offensively.
I'd much rather give someone from the 3rd league team a chance in case there is any need for another offensive minded backup in the 2nd leg of the season.
In the good position we are in...if you are going to sign someone...then sign someone who you think can immediately become a starter or someone who is labeled as an incredible talent (like Hertha did with Kurt). Onisiwo to me fits in neither category the way Heidel has described him.

[Andi Obst]

Why is Hertha interested in signing Andre Hahn Nathan?
Isn't he injured for the rest of the season anyway?

I wonder Preetz didn't try to go for Kirchhoff, Rode and Gaudino as well. Normally, his business is to sign as many former Bayern players as possible, right? Although, in case of Kurt and Gaudino he definitely has a case.

Like Det said, Hahn would only be an option in the summer I guess. I like him, so why not.

Concerning Preetz' love for Bayern's trash: as long as they all work out like Weiser did so far, he can get whoever he wants from them

[Det the Threat]

Martin Hinteregger is said to be loaned to Gladbach till the end of the season.
Borussia also has an option to buy him for € 12M in the summer, if those reports are true.

Also, Jon Brooks from Hertha to Wolfsburg seems possible as well.

[No_20]

Why do Dortmund fans think they can get a Lukaku as an potential Aubemayng replacement?

No way that happens.

When was the last time a Bundesliga club not named FC Bayern made a real marquee signing from a foreign league? Is Kevin Keegan to HSV really the last one?

Raul was a big name and was still a terrific player at that time but he was way past his prime when he came to Schalke. Same when Van Nistelrooy came to HSV.

[Foye]

Why do Dortmund fans think they can get a Lukaku as an potential Aubemayng replacement?

No way that happens.

When was the last time a Bundesliga club not named FC Bayern made a real marquee signing from a foreign league? Is Kevin Keegan to HSV really the last one?

Raul was a big name and was still a terrific player at that time but he was way past his prime when he came to Schalke. Same when Van Nistelrooy came to HSV.

The days of possibly signing Lukaku are long gone for Dortmund. Even if they sell Auba for top value they'd have to invest every last penny of that money for Lukaku...who in this market will go for more than 50 if not 60 mil. as well.

[MaliBrah]

Auba today said he's staying so no need to talk about replacements

[No_20]

Auba today said he's staying so no need to talk about replacements

Well yeah, he is staying for the rest of this season. Big transfers are rare in Janaury. But if he continues his form in the Rückrunde the big boys will come in the summer and test Dortmund.

He said he wants to play in Spain, not England. But the problem is that Barca obviously dont need him and Florentino Perez doesnt like black players.

[MaliBrah]

Auba today said he's staying so no need to talk about replacements

Well yeah, he is staying for the rest of this season. Big transfers are rare in Janaury. But if he continues his form in the Rückrunde the big boys will come in the summer and test Dortmund.

He said he wants to play in Spain, not England. But the problem is that Barca obviously dont need him and Florentino Perez doesnt like black players.

everytime I read this I find it incredible that Its still believable aha. He has that chamakh hair going too and probably isn't "pretty" enough too

[No_20]

Auba today said he's staying so no need to talk about replacements

Well yeah, he is staying for the rest of this season. Big transfers are rare in Janaury. But if he continues his form in the Rückrunde the big boys will come in the summer and test Dortmund.

He said he wants to play in Spain, not England. But the problem is that Barca obviously dont need him and Florentino Perez doesnt like black players.

everytime I read this I find it incredible that Its still believable aha. He has that chamakh hair going too and probably isn't "pretty" enough too

Perez kicked Makelele and Eto'o out of the club and never bought a black "Galactico". He didnt want Ronaldinho and Henry despite the fact that those 2 probably were the best players in the world in the mid-00s.

[Det the Threat]

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He's already on his way to the training camp in Belek, Turkey and the only thing debateable is the transfer fee in the summer.
Bild's saying that it would be another €12M while Rheinische Post is talking about a fee in the high single digits.

[Foye]

That sounds like a lot of money for a guy who played in Austria last...

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[Det the Threat]

That sounds like a lot of money for a guy who played in Austria last...

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I think we've got to get used to transfer fees going up quite a bit with all them english teams pouring money in left and right.

Also, Kicker's currently reporting that we'd pay up to €8M for him, including loan fee and option to buy.
Sounds better, but he's also a starting cb for Austria(next to Dragovic) and has kept guys like Wimmer or Prödl on the bench.

[Foye]

That sounds like a lot of money for a guy who played in Austria last...

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I think we've got to get used to transfer fees going up quite a bit with all them english teams pouring money in left and right.

Also, Kicker's currently reporting that we'd pay up to €8M for him, including loan fee and option to buy.
Sounds better, but he's also a starting cb for Austria(next to Dragovic) and has kept guys like Wimmer or Prödl on the bench.

Sure...as soon as even a relegation candidate from the EPL is interested any player will cost nearly double digit millions these days.

[Det the Threat]

Sure...as soon as even a relegation candidate from the EPL is interested any player will cost nearly double digit millions these days.

Actually it does.
Newcastle easily outbid us for cb Chancel Mbemba and got him for €15 M.
They also brought in Mitrovic(over €18.5 M) and Wijnaldum(€20 M) etc...

Bournemouth got Juan Iturbe and are said to be going for El-Shaarawy as well.
It's going to get crazy starting this summer with the tv deal fully kicking in...

[No_20]

Forgot that Götze's contract runs out in 2017.

Liverpool could basically get him on a free transfer if he still doesnt perform under Ancelotti.

What a disappointment he has been the last 3-4 years. He was probably the most hyped German player ever back in the early Dortmund days. I think he lacks that killer mentality to become a world class player. He's looked out of shape for most of his Bayern tenure.

Reminder that the Bayern Vorstand picked him OVER Neymar back in 2013. Guardiola wanted Neymar. Can you imagine Bayern with Neymar.