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bws94 wrote:Lamb said he would have played yesterday when he was "doubtful". He said it would have hurt, but everybody is banged up in the league now and you just go out there and play. Lamb's interviews have gone from bad to good. He interviews pretty well now.
You got me confused with UNCYCJoest2003 wrote:DY_nasty wrote:catch20two wrote:Can't believe some of you got the unmitigated gall to talk about if it's premature of Cho to sign Lamb to 7mil per for 3 years when he's been one of the best scoring guards off the bench in the entire NBA. The guy is averaging 11 points in 23 minutes with the best FG% among our guards and a 18 PER. That's a damn godsend for this team as miserable as we've been at the wing position the past half a decade. Lamb is basically averaging what Hendo did in 30+ minutes.
hendo wasn't a layup line on the other end
you almost made me miss henderson for a second reading all that...
but despite me crapping on the dude for being one of the main reasons that the 2nd unit's offense has become much, much less efficient with his ballstopping i DO like him. but maybe by playing for a contract, he'd play with a bit of consistency too.
you don't buy a car without a test drive. same concept - why sign a guy without seeing him play for your organization for a while? i'd feel so much better about the entire situation if he wasn't already set to count his money regardless.
Your strange obsession with PJ will never allow me to take anything you say about Lamb serious. Signing him was a gamble that the organization was willing to take. They saw a lot of him in practice and pre season where they figured with consistent minutes he will improve a lot. They didn't want to have to get into a bidding war for him after the season is over and probably loose him. Once the salary jumps up and he has a year or 2 of actual consistent minutes he will end up being vastly underpaid.
catch20two wrote:I'm seeing hell of a lot more from Lamb than I am seeing from PJ.
DY_nasty wrote:You got me confused with UNCYCJoest2003 wrote:DY_nasty wrote:hendo wasn't a layup line on the other end
you almost made me miss henderson for a second reading all that...
but despite me crapping on the dude for being one of the main reasons that the 2nd unit's offense has become much, much less efficient with his ballstopping i DO like him. but maybe by playing for a contract, he'd play with a bit of consistency too.
you don't buy a car without a test drive. same concept - why sign a guy without seeing him play for your organization for a while? i'd feel so much better about the entire situation if he wasn't already set to count his money regardless.
Your strange obsession with PJ will never allow me to take anything you say about Lamb serious. Signing him was a gamble that the organization was willing to take. They saw a lot of him in practice and pre season where they figured with consistent minutes he will improve a lot. They didn't want to have to get into a bidding war for him after the season is over and probably loose him. Once the salary jumps up and he has a year or 2 of actual consistent minutes he will end up being vastly underpaid.
Just because I don't crap on the guy and scapegoat him at every opportunity, it doesn't mean I'm playing favorites.
But regarding the gamble - its still just that. A gamble. And bad business practice. So because of that, I'm gonna expect a hell of a lot more from a guy who's the same age as the 1st round pick everyone was in a rush to give up on.
This whole "he'll be underpaid one day" narrative is incredibly dismissive of how he's playing now and the habits he's developed working in an organization that has developed 3 (maybe 4 if reggie gets in) all-stars. That bidding war would've been a joke too. The fear is that we'd pay the guy what he's worth based on market value as a RFA.
dear god we may have to match a contract like every other team in the league
Rick Bonnell @rick_bonnell 11h11 hours ago Phoenix, AZ
Steve Clifford: "I don’t care if it’s the NBA or not, you’re not going to play with the effort they’re giving defensively."
Rick Bonnell @rick_bonnell 11h11 hours ago Phoenix, AZ
I would say Clifford's comment certainly applies to Jeremy Lamb, who did not play in the second half. Not exclusively, but applies.
Rick Bonnell @rick_bonnell 10h10 hours ago
I don't know if this was a scolding or a shift, but sitting Lamb for Daniels was an interesting statement by Clifford.
"Our energy is fine, but we don’t think about defense. We don’t think about defense to start the game. We think about scoring," Clifford assessed.
"I don’t care if it’s the NBA or not, you’re not going to play with the effort they’re giving defensively. You can’t get rung up the way we did like tonight.
"A lot of it is just one-on-one. You don’t have to make a stop, but you have to make it hard (to score) so we can help."
It was obvious Clifford’s comments above applied to Jeremy Lamb. He entered this game with a sore wrist and hip suffered against the Warriors. But Lamb played all of seven minutes – none in the second half – and Clifford said health had nothing to do with the decision not to use Lamb.
Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article53454190.html#storylink=cpy
Joest2003 wrote:DY_nasty wrote:You got me confused with UNCYCJoest2003 wrote:
Your strange obsession with PJ will never allow me to take anything you say about Lamb serious. Signing him was a gamble that the organization was willing to take. They saw a lot of him in practice and pre season where they figured with consistent minutes he will improve a lot. They didn't want to have to get into a bidding war for him after the season is over and probably loose him. Once the salary jumps up and he has a year or 2 of actual consistent minutes he will end up being vastly underpaid.
Just because I don't crap on the guy and scapegoat him at every opportunity, it doesn't mean I'm playing favorites.
But regarding the gamble - its still just that. A gamble. And bad business practice. So because of that, I'm gonna expect a hell of a lot more from a guy who's the same age as the 1st round pick everyone was in a rush to give up on.
This whole "he'll be underpaid one day" narrative is incredibly dismissive of how he's playing now and the habits he's developed working in an organization that has developed 3 (maybe 4 if reggie gets in) all-stars. That bidding war would've been a joke too. The fear is that we'd pay the guy what he's worth based on market value as a RFA.
dear god we may have to match a contract like every other team in the league
Dude it's not that hard to comprehend the salary cap is literally going from 67 to 108 in the next 2 years. Lamb is still getting paid on his rookie contract. When his new contract starts the salary will be almost 90 million. His 7 million will equal around 4 million once the salary jumps. He's already out playing a 4 million contact this season which is his first with actual playing time. And OKC didn't develope all starts KD And Russ would have been all starts no matter where they played.
DY_nasty wrote:Joest2003 wrote:DY_nasty wrote:You got me confused with UNCYC
Just because I don't crap on the guy and scapegoat him at every opportunity, it doesn't mean I'm playing favorites.
But regarding the gamble - its still just that. A gamble. And bad business practice. So because of that, I'm gonna expect a hell of a lot more from a guy who's the same age as the 1st round pick everyone was in a rush to give up on.
This whole "he'll be underpaid one day" narrative is incredibly dismissive of how he's playing now and the habits he's developed working in an organization that has developed 3 (maybe 4 if reggie gets in) all-stars. That bidding war would've been a joke too. The fear is that we'd pay the guy what he's worth based on market value as a RFA.
dear god we may have to match a contract like every other team in the league
Dude it's not that hard to comprehend the salary cap is literally going from 67 to 108 in the next 2 years. Lamb is still getting paid on his rookie contract. When his new contract starts the salary will be almost 90 million. His 7 million will equal around 4 million once the salary jumps. He's already out playing a 4 million contact this season which is his first with actual playing time. And OKC didn't develope all starts KD And Russ would have been all starts no matter where they played.
You're talking around the point. He didn't earn his contract lol
Do you pay barbers before they cut your hair? Then why give a guy a 3 year contract for a good first impression?
DY_nasty wrote:I really thought Lamb was just hurt or something. LOL getting benched for Troy Daniels
Joest2003 wrote:DY_nasty wrote:I really thought Lamb was just hurt or something. LOL getting benched for Troy Daniels
I think it's more of the fact that Daniels was on fire. No coach is going to take a guy out who's hitting every shot he takes.
cliff would never do thatBlackOutBuzz wrote:DY_nasty wrote:Joest2003 wrote:
Dude it's not that hard to comprehend the salary cap is literally going from 67 to 108 in the next 2 years. Lamb is still getting paid on his rookie contract. When his new contract starts the salary will be almost 90 million. His 7 million will equal around 4 million once the salary jumps. He's already out playing a 4 million contact this season which is his first with actual playing time. And OKC didn't develope all starts KD And Russ would have been all starts no matter where they played.
You're talking around the point. He didn't earn his contract lol
Do you pay barbers before they cut your hair? Then why give a guy a 3 year contract for a good first impression?
Because that was the last day they could extend him before he hit RFA. In-season rookie extensions aren't allowed. Better now to lock him into a modest deal, $7M a year will be fine for a rotation player under caps of $89M, then $100M+, etc.
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DY_nasty wrote:BlackOutBuzz wrote:DY_nasty wrote:You're talking around the point. He didn't earn his contract lol
Do you pay barbers before they cut your hair? Then why give a guy a 3 year contract for a good first impression?
Because that was the last day they could extend him before he hit RFA. In-season rookie extensions aren't allowed. Better now to lock him into a modest deal, $7M a year will be fine for a rotation player under caps of $89M, then $100M+, etc.
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What's wrong with RFA?
God forbid we pay a guy market value or let him walk like the other 29 teams in the league.
BlackOutBuzz wrote:DY_nasty wrote:BlackOutBuzz wrote:Because that was the last day they could extend him before he hit RFA. In-season rookie extensions aren't allowed. Better now to lock him into a modest deal, $7M a year will be fine for a rotation player under caps of $89M, then $100M+, etc.
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What's wrong with RFA?
God forbid we pay a guy market value or let him walk like the other 29 teams in the league.
Because a young, bench scorer is going to be worth at least that much in the coming years.
I fail to see how letting him walk is better than keeping him for cheap, but ok. He's set to make less than guys like Lou Williams, Jodie Meeks, and Victor Oladipo - who's on a damn rookie contract - next season. He'll be around the 40th wing in salary, and that's before several free agents inevitably pass him (Wade, Beal, Mayo, Durant, Batum, Barnes, etc.).
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DY_nasty wrote:BlackOutBuzz wrote:DY_nasty wrote:What's wrong with RFA?
God forbid we pay a guy market value or let him walk like the other 29 teams in the league.
Because a young, bench scorer is going to be worth at least that much in the coming years.
I fail to see how letting him walk is better than keeping him for cheap, but ok. He's set to make less than guys like Lou Williams, Jodie Meeks, and Victor Oladipo - who's on a damn rookie contract - next season. He'll be around the 40th wing in salary, and that's before several free agents inevitably pass him (Wade, Beal, Mayo, Durant, Batum, Barnes, etc.).
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You're speaking as if its fact. Its been 30 games. And our 3 year investment just got benched for a guy we already cut. I'm gonna bring it up.
RFA is not "letting a guy walk" no matter how many times people say it. He's our guy until there is a completely unrealistic offer out there, and our financial situation has literally never kept us from retaining talent that we wanted to keep in the past so why pretend to make it an issue now?
He could be a great bargain, but so far we paid a guy for potential. It will always be bad business.
DY_nasty wrote:Joest2003 wrote:DY_nasty wrote:I really thought Lamb was just hurt or something. LOL getting benched for Troy Daniels
I think it's more of the fact that Daniels was on fire. No coach is going to take a guy out who's hitting every shot he takes.
so we're just gonna ignore coach quotes now
like cliff hasn't taken out guys that are hot before
DY_nasty wrote:I really thought Lamb was just hurt or something. LOL getting benched for Troy Daniels