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What would you pay to keep Jennings?

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What would you pay to keep Jennings? 

Post#1 » by Laimbeer » Fri Jan 8, 2016 6:38 pm

What is the most you'd offer in dollars and years to keep Jennings?
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Re: What would you pay to keep Jennings? 

Post#2 » by joedumars1 » Fri Jan 8, 2016 6:41 pm

Have to wait and see how he keeps playing. Only been four games. I'd guess he get's 10-13 mill per tho
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Post#3 » by MotownMadness » Fri Jan 8, 2016 6:45 pm

Depends, we've yet to see enough of him but as a super sixth man I would give him somewhere around 10-12 per. Now if he shows he can play next to RJ and we are showing a impact doing it then he could be worth a whole lot more to us then just a guy off the bench.
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Post#4 » by mattao313 » Fri Jan 8, 2016 6:56 pm

If he can take on that 6th man role and contribute to wins around 11 per is were I'm at.
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Post#5 » by Arp590 » Fri Jan 8, 2016 6:57 pm

It all depends on if a lineup of Jennings at the 1 and Reggie at the 2 works. If it works and we can get Jennings 26+ minutes, then pay the man $10mil+
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Post#6 » by zeebneeb » Fri Jan 8, 2016 7:10 pm

Just way to early to tell. The season has to be over for me to make a guess. All I know is that if he continues to play like his old self he makes our bench lethal.

How much is that worth? San Antonio is deep as hell and thats a great example to follow. Detroit may have to pay pay pay Jennings to keep it going.
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Post#7 » by Cowology » Fri Jan 8, 2016 7:14 pm

Obviously early to say, but I *might* go as high as 4/60. But I believe he's capable of playing 30+ minutes, co-existing with Reggie and finishing games.
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Post#8 » by DBC10 » Fri Jan 8, 2016 7:14 pm

Pay him that scales well with whatever Manu got during his sixth man of the year days.

But I'm comfortable north of 12 mil and balk at 15 mil.
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Post#9 » by DocRI » Fri Jan 8, 2016 7:17 pm

Absolutely high-end, maximum I would go? Assuming he settles into an often game-changing role off the bench and we're all clamoring for him to win 6MOTY despite missing the first two months of the season? I'd go as high as $13.5M (exactly Brandon Knight money, as I suspect BK could/would strive in a similar role on the right team).

Absolutely low-end, like no one else even makes him an offer? Between $9M – $10M, considering the cap hike.

So, realistically, somewhere in the middle, like $11 – $12M. But here's hoping he earns $13.5M, 'cuz that'll mean an amazing second half of the season for the Pistons!
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Post#10 » by tmorgan » Fri Jan 8, 2016 7:20 pm

Us or elsewhere, if he finishes the season healthy and plays at a high level, he's getting 15 million in this insane, cap-exploding market.
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Post#11 » by Todd3 » Fri Jan 8, 2016 7:37 pm

Have to see how he plays with Reggie first. A true 6th man plays starters minutes - just does so off the bench. If we are to give Jennings top 6th man money, he needs to be able to play 25-30 mpg, and the only way to do so is playing some with Reggie every night. Otherwise can't pay him double digit salary just for 15 mpg. So how many minutes we can get out of him will dictate how much I would pay him.

Stan said he doesn't envision the 2 PG look being a regular part of rotation though, so I'm not sure how that is going to work, in terms of getting him enough minutes to validate a big contract if that isn't a regular lineup every night.
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Re: What would you pay to keep Jennings? 

Post#12 » by Spider156 » Fri Jan 8, 2016 7:44 pm

My mind still works with the old CBA even after last offseason. Last offseason was ridiculous. In the old CBA, I would give him 8-10 million a year. Dumars contract was awesome for him by the way. So in the new one I'd imagine a team would give him at least 12 million a year. I'd probably sign him to a 55 million, 4 year contract with the last year being a team option. I can imagine him getting more than that though. The new salaries players are going to get are gonna be ridiculous.
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Post#13 » by DetroitSho » Fri Jan 8, 2016 7:48 pm

I'd go $13 million per. And what's with the "if RJ and BJ can play together" uncertainty? Why wouldn't these two be able to play together?
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Post#14 » by mattao313 » Fri Jan 8, 2016 7:54 pm

DetroitSho wrote:I'd go $13 million per. And what's with the "if RJ and BJ can play together" uncertainty? Why wouldn't these two be able to play together?

Probably cause of their defensive deficiency and both are ball dominate players.
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Post#15 » by Cowology » Fri Jan 8, 2016 7:59 pm

What hurts Jennings is that the PG position is incredibly deep right now and there won't be a large market competing for his services, despite being a quality player. Then again, it only takes 1 team willing to throw money at him and as we've seen year after year some GM is usually willing to overpay. If you are one of the few teams who actually does have a need (Philly, NY, etc) then maybe you do over extend because you can't afford to have 27 other teams beating you badly at that position.

I really don't have a great feel for what the market is going to be or how aggressive teams will spend under the new cap.
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Re: What would you pay to keep Jennings? 

Post#16 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Jan 8, 2016 8:08 pm

This is probably why just about every team board on RealGM thinks that Jennings can be had for a crap trade or Sign cheap to be their backup PG.

I saw one on the Phoenix board where they actually all agree that Markieff Morris is worth Jennings and 2015 1st Rounder.
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Re: What would you pay to keep Jennings? 

Post#17 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Jan 8, 2016 8:09 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:This is probably why just about every team board on RealGM thinks that Jennings can be had for a crap trade or Sign cheap to be their backup PG.

I saw one on the Phoenix board where they actually all agree that Markieff Morris is worth Jennings and 2015 1st Rounder.


I almost wanted to post that the Suns will have to package Markieff with a 1st Rounder just to dump his ass for a future 2nd rounder!
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Re: What would you pay to keep Jennings? 

Post#18 » by chrbal » Fri Jan 8, 2016 8:30 pm

$10-13 a year for 5 years. Sell him on Vinnie Johnson type role.
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Post#19 » by coordinator0 » Fri Jan 8, 2016 8:35 pm

Todd3 wrote:Have to see how he plays with Reggie first. A true 6th man plays starters minutes - just does so off the bench. If we are to give Jennings top 6th man money, he needs to be able to play 25-30 mpg, and the only way to do so is playing some with Reggie every night. Otherwise can't pay him double digit salary just for 15 mpg. So how many minutes we can get out of him will dictate how much I would pay him.

Stan said he doesn't envision the 2 PG look being a regular part of rotation though, so I'm not sure how that is going to work, in terms of getting him enough minutes to validate a big contract if that isn't a regular lineup every night.


Pretty much this. It all depends on how many minutes Jennings can get. I wouldn't mind Detroit going 13-15 million for him if he's in that high 20's per night range, but if all his minutes are only coming as Jackson's backup then it would be tough to see Brandon getting that much.
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Re: What would you pay to keep Jennings? 

Post#20 » by DetroitSho » Fri Jan 8, 2016 8:40 pm

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DetroitSho wrote:I'd go $13 million per. And what's with the "if RJ and BJ can play together" uncertainty? Why wouldn't these two be able to play together?

Probably cause of their defensive deficiency and both are ball dominate players.

Does anyone not realize that Jackson played majority of his career sharing the court with Westbrook and actually did well off the ball? Also does anyone not remember a backcourt of Jennings and Ellis actually led their team to the playoffs? The whole ball dominant thing doesn’t fly. Jackson is only ball dominant when they're running the pnr constantly. Then there's other times when the starters go against doing the pnr exclusively and Jackson gives the ball up much earlier in the offensive set. Jennings doesn't really dominate the ball. He tries to find shooters very early in the offense.

Each guy is more than passable at hitting shots off the kickout, so if one PG is attacking and the other ends up with a shot off ball movement, that ball dominant bs goes out the window. Either guy can knock em down. This ain't exactly Stuckey/Iverson where both guys are pretty useless off the ball.

And the concern defensively goes out the window when you're up against another 2 pg lineup. Or you're up against a unit with a SG that really doesn't have a physical advantage over RJ (there's literally no reason you can't use it against Conley/Allen for example). Hell when Meeks comes back we're ready to pair Jennings/Meeks off the bench. Not sure how that tandem is better defensively than Jackson/Jennings.

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