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JellyRolling wrote:When our 3's are falling we look pretty good. Tonight went 6/24 (25%) and only attempted 13 ft's while other Heat attempted 30. So, those two categories is the main reason we lost.
AtheJ415 wrote:ginobiliflops wrote:Gorilla Warfare wrote:If I win the $800 million Powerball do you think it would be enough to buy Robert Sarver's share of the franchise? I would assume it would and would be worth every damn penny.
I thought about this myself, as I probably will win the lotto
I'd say it'd at least give you enough to go halfsies with some other rich guy or group.
You need to put at least 20 million aside to bribe the Silver into giving us Simmons. Or to bribe a GM to trade us Simmons.
PG--Bledsoe, Knight, Archie (yes, I'm optimistic. He was awesome today)
SG--Booker, Knight or Knight, Booker (yes, trade Knight when the time comes and we get a good offer), Bogdan
SF--Warren, Booker, Bogdan (6'11" wingspan and supposably much improved defensively, play him at the 3).
PF--Simmons, Jones, Leuer (yes, again optimist that we get Jones)
C--Len, Leuer (why I want to keep Leuer. Can backup the 4 and 5), sign a center.
JellyRolling wrote:But I enjoy complaining about free throws It helps me sleep better at night.
JellyRolling wrote:I don't believe Silver is taking orders from Stern but I do believe he despises the Suns as much as Stern did.
Frank Lee wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:Frank Lee wrote:
thats all I need to see...
later
As opposed to Gerald playing the 1? Because that's kind of the point re: Gerald v. Knight. Hell dude, you're sitting in this thread advocating for a guy who does all the stuff you hate a current player for, while pining for another guy in Goran who is 29, averaging 12, 5, and 3 on below average efficiency getting paid $85 million. That's an extra $15 million over what Knight makes, at 5 years older, and on worse efficiency. If Knight can't play PG, then what is Goran playing this year? Whatever it is, it's not good basketball, and unequivocally worse than your least favorite Sun has played.
Pack the sand dude... you were homering this whole game thread. Defending your tiresome rebuild young or bust argument. Check my posts and quote one that is 'Pining' or 'advocating'. Find it you blow hard.
You are so predictable. It truly feels like baiting for practically every negative observation of Knight had a whiney 'stick up for him response' from you just trying to get into it with someone. You are an easy hook. (sorry... BK continues to non-impress with his crunch time yips just as you do with the 24 yrs old mantra)
Get over your self-appointed expert analysis. You do know basketball but you don't have the only crystal ball and tea leaves here. The future is not yours exclusively to predict.
BTW Dragic makes 3 mill more per yr. Look at it that way for a change.
Sure it was good to see former players Dragic and Green.... you ought to be happy they played well down the stretch and handed us that loss...since it will 'help the rebuild'
RunDogGun wrote:bwgood77 wrote:RunDogGun wrote:Sarver didn't take over the team until a week later, but who cares about true history.
It's funny you think he was like at a store and showed up and purchased the Suns one day. If we was about to fork over $400 million do you not think he had any say in things that had to take place before purchase went through? His history after that doesn't seem to to help the argument that he had nothing to do with it either.
Or it could have been a pre-arrange deal that was discussed earlier, before the sale. Either way, he wasn't the owner when the deal went down, that's all we know for sure, right?
Gorilla Warfare wrote:If I win the $800 million Powerball do you think it would be enough to buy Robert Sarver's share of the franchise? I would assume it would and would be worth every damn penny.
Frank Lee wrote:RunDogGun wrote:bwgood77 wrote:
It's funny you think he was like at a store and showed up and purchased the Suns one day. If we was about to fork over $400 million do you not think he had any say in things that had to take place before purchase went through? His history after that doesn't seem to to help the argument that he had nothing to do with it either.
Or it could have been a pre-arrange deal that was discussed earlier, before the sale. Either way, he wasn't the owner when the deal went down, that's all we know for sure, right?
at first, that deal didn't look too bad. We had a top 3 protected chicago pick the following yr. Chicago started out dismally, and it looked pretty solid as a top 5-6 ... then they went on a flukey Win 23 out of 25 streak and finished respectfully (or something equivalently disruptive) We ended up with 21 and Nate Robinson.
We promptly traded with NateRob and Q to the Knicks for Kurt Thomas.... so you can say it wasn't a total bust as KT was damn valuable in his time here. But you can play it forward a few yrs and say then, we never would have dealt KT and more picks away. 'Doom'inos ?
Qwigglez wrote:Wade is a little bitch. He always flops, I used to like him when he was a rookie but now he's just a pussy who falls all the time. Booker got all ball.
AtheJ415 wrote:.......to be drastically more awful basketball than Brandon Knight, ......
bwgood77 wrote:Frank Lee wrote:RunDogGun wrote:Or it could have been a pre-arrange deal that was discussed earlier, before the sale. Either way, he wasn't the owner when the deal went down, that's all we know for sure, right?
at first, that deal didn't look too bad. We had a top 3 protected chicago pick the following yr. Chicago started out dismally, and it looked pretty solid as a top 5-6 ... then they went on a flukey Win 23 out of 25 streak and finished respectfully (or something equivalently disruptive) We ended up with 21 and Nate Robinson.
We promptly traded with NateRob and Q to the Knicks for Kurt Thomas.... so you can say it wasn't a total bust as KT was damn valuable in his time here. But you can play it forward a few yrs and say then, we never would have dealt KT and more picks away. 'Doom'inos ?
Yeah, despite who owned the team, what irked me at the time mostly was the Q signing, because had we kept the pick and extended Joe Johnson that summer (him and Sarver were only arguing like 6/45 vs 6/50 or something like that) and drafted Iguodala, then we never get ourselves in that financial situation. I knew once we signed Q it would create future cap problems with our core...it took a while, and we flipped him for Kurt Thomas, but eventually that is what happened.
I mean you can blame that on the Colangelos (they made mistakes as do all of us)....I was just looking at it from a pure fan standpoint...regardless of who made what decisions.
Not to knock the Colangelo's though.....I think Jerry would be nice to have as the owner right now.
RunDogGun wrote:JellyRolling wrote:But I enjoy complaining about free throws It helps me sleep better at night.
It doesn't for me. I have hated the way this team has been treated for a good thirty plus years. I watched KJ get thrown to the ground with no calls, then Nash getting hand checked up and down the court even after winning two MVPs, then Goran, now Bledsoe/Knight. We get the crap end of that stick way too often. And I don't know what it is really, you'd really think that Nash would have gotten better calls after winning the second MVP.
Oh well, another loss and some bad shooting from many. Losing is going to take its toll on many players, I really hope it doesn't kill our young guys confidence. Hey Goodwin had a good game though, but Warren sucked.m
JellyRolling wrote:I don't believe Silver is taking orders from Stern but I do believe he despises the Suns as much as Stern did.
nevetsov wrote:Gorilla Warfare wrote:If I win the $800 million Powerball do you think it would be enough to buy Robert Sarver's share of the franchise? I would assume it would and would be worth every damn penny.
Once they all retire, we could petition Nash, Amare, Hill, Marion and JJ to kick in $100m each for a $500m majority stake in the team. Pretty sure they've each made that from playing alone, let alone endorsements etc.
With a few other minority players and silent partners, they could easily buy out Sarver at fair value if he was motivated to sell.
*unsure if I can change font in the RealGM app, or even which colour I'm supposed to use anymore...
JellyRolling wrote:RunDogGun wrote:JellyRolling wrote:But I enjoy complaining about free throws It helps me sleep better at night.
It doesn't for me. I have hated the way this team has been treated for a good thirty plus years. I watched KJ get thrown to the ground with no calls, then Nash getting hand checked up and down the court even after winning two MVPs, then Goran, now Bledsoe/Knight. We get the crap end of that stick way too often. And I don't know what it is really, you'd really think that Nash would have gotten better calls after winning the second MVP.
Oh well, another loss and some bad shooting from many. Losing is going to take its toll on many players, I really hope it doesn't kill our young guys confidence. Hey Goodwin had a good game though, but Warren sucked.m
See even with Sarver has our owner we've always had problems getting calls in our favor, going deep in the playoffs and winning it all. As a promising franchise that has a top 5 winning percentage its pretty sad that we only made the finals twice in our 40+ years as a franchise. While teams like Mavs have been around for 25 years and already made the same number of final's appearances like us and won a ring.
bwgood77 wrote:Frank Lee wrote:RunDogGun wrote:Or it could have been a pre-arrange deal that was discussed earlier, before the sale. Either way, he wasn't the owner when the deal went down, that's all we know for sure, right?
at first, that deal didn't look too bad. We had a top 3 protected chicago pick the following yr. Chicago started out dismally, and it looked pretty solid as a top 5-6 ... then they went on a flukey Win 23 out of 25 streak and finished respectfully (or something equivalently disruptive) We ended up with 21 and Nate Robinson.
We promptly traded with NateRob and Q to the Knicks for Kurt Thomas.... so you can say it wasn't a total bust as KT was damn valuable in his time here. But you can play it forward a few yrs and say then, we never would have dealt KT and more picks away. 'Doom'inos ?
Yeah, despite who owned the team, what irked me at the time mostly was the Q signing, because had we kept the pick and extended Joe Johnson that summer (him and Sarver were only arguing like 6/45 vs 6/50 or something like that) and drafted Iguodala, then we never get ourselves in that financial situation. I knew once we signed Q it would create future cap problems with our core...it took a while, and we flipped him for Kurt Thomas, but eventually that is what happened.
I mean you can blame that on the Colangelos (they made mistakes as do all of us)....I was just looking at it from a pure fan standpoint...regardless of who made what decisions.
Not to knock the Colangelo's though.....I think Jerry would be nice to have as the owner right now.
RunDogGun wrote:bwgood77 wrote:Frank Lee wrote:
at first, that deal didn't look too bad. We had a top 3 protected chicago pick the following yr. Chicago started out dismally, and it looked pretty solid as a top 5-6 ... then they went on a flukey Win 23 out of 25 streak and finished respectfully (or something equivalently disruptive) We ended up with 21 and Nate Robinson.
We promptly traded with NateRob and Q to the Knicks for Kurt Thomas.... so you can say it wasn't a total bust as KT was damn valuable in his time here. But you can play it forward a few yrs and say then, we never would have dealt KT and more picks away. 'Doom'inos ?
Yeah, despite who owned the team, what irked me at the time mostly was the Q signing, because had we kept the pick and extended Joe Johnson that summer (him and Sarver were only arguing like 6/45 vs 6/50 or something like that) and drafted Iguodala, then we never get ourselves in that financial situation. I knew once we signed Q it would create future cap problems with our core...it took a while, and we flipped him for Kurt Thomas, but eventually that is what happened.
I mean you can blame that on the Colangelos (they made mistakes as do all of us)....I was just looking at it from a pure fan standpoint...regardless of who made what decisions.
Not to knock the Colangelo's though.....I think Jerry would be nice to have as the owner right now.
We'd be bankrupt if Jerry still owned the team. He would have had to have sold the team at some point. It's unfortunate that there is a business side to it, huh?
We didn't have too big of a problem financially until Boris, LB(not a bad contract, but came at the same time), and Banks got their contracts. We could have handled KT's contract if Mike didn't do such a bad job GMing. Oh well, it has sucked who Sarver has put basketball decisions up to.
Frank Lee wrote:RunDogGun wrote:bwgood77 wrote:
Yeah, despite who owned the team, what irked me at the time mostly was the Q signing, because had we kept the pick and extended Joe Johnson that summer (him and Sarver were only arguing like 6/45 vs 6/50 or something like that) and drafted Iguodala, then we never get ourselves in that financial situation. I knew once we signed Q it would create future cap problems with our core...it took a while, and we flipped him for Kurt Thomas, but eventually that is what happened.
I mean you can blame that on the Colangelos (they made mistakes as do all of us)....I was just looking at it from a pure fan standpoint...regardless of who made what decisions.
Not to knock the Colangelo's though.....I think Jerry would be nice to have as the owner right now.
We'd be bankrupt if Jerry still owned the team. He would have had to have sold the team at some point. It's unfortunate that there is a business side to it, huh?
We didn't have too big of a problem financially until Boris, LB(not a bad contract, but came at the same time), and Banks got their contracts. We could have handled KT's contract if Mike didn't do such a bad job GMing. Oh well, it has sucked who Sarver has put basketball decisions up to.
It was Kerr who dealt KT... but the Banks signing >.. good lord... I remember reading about him holed up in his room crying because he was one of the very last FAs left... and we dumped a 16 mill lotto ticket on him ...sheesh.
The beginning of the corrosive management maneuvers ?
Did you ever read about JerryC's sweeeeet leasing deal he had with the arena ? I don't remember the particulars but it was a rosy one.
