Kings vs Warriors | Jan 9, 2016

[SacKingZZZ]

There is a lot of potential in this team to win games on the defensive end. I'm sick of seeing the Kings having to win based on offensive output of the side guys who are used inconsistently and thus produce inconsistently.

This 3 G lineup without Rondo is interesting though. If you are going to run 3 guards at a time, they better ALL be able to shoot.

[teerfour+40LG]

Utah won easily tonight...

[KF10]

Where's Acy & WCS? ffs Karl!

[City of Trees]

Someone tell Karl his "closing" line up doesn't close very well

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[teerfour+40LG]

Kings playing really hard tonight for 48 minutes. Fun to watch.

[SacKingZZZ]

Per usual for this season, it's going to have to be unrealistic offensive performance bailing out a deficit created by bad match ups.

[KF10]

The Kings need to look for a (shooting) guard that can score reliably before the trade deadline. I like Ben but he isn't cutting it at all. Belinelli is streaky as hell and Collison is having a down year. Come on Vlade!

[KF10]

Also, not playing Cousins in nearly all of the 3rd quarter due to foul trouble is a real back breaker.

[City of Trees]

Besides the Spurs there isn't any other team who can compete with the Warriors. Loved the effort I saw tonight. This team isn't perfect nor does Karl do a good job choosing his lineups but they are playing much better as of the new year so I'm not going to feel bad about this loss.

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[City of Trees]

Also, not playing Cousins in nearly all of the 3rd quarter due to foul trouble is a real back breaker.

Two games in a row. I'd like to see Cuz stop with the reach in fouls

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[City of Trees]

The Kings need to look for a (shooting) guard that can score reliably before the trade deadline. I like Ben but he isn't cutting it at all. Belinelli is streaky as hell and Collison is having a down year. Come on Vlade!

I'd like to see the same but to get value you gotta give. Who's giving up the player you seek for Ben or Belli?

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[City of Trees]

Per usual for this season, it's going to have to be unrealistic offensive performance bailing out a deficit created by bad match ups.

This deficit was created by the three of my shooting of the Warriors. Everyone is experiencing that this season.

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[City of Trees]

I like the energy we are seeing. McLemore is surprisingly still playing aggressive and its making a difference. If Cousins is dealing with an ankle I can't tell. It's too bad we don't have Casspi back, could use his shooting tonight

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I'm a little worried what's going to happen to this team when he does come back. I think it's clearly obvious that Willie and Acy are keys to this team becoming respectable on the defensive end. They also provide something offensively that the Kings don't have without them and that's a lob target for Rondo, and an easy dump off on drives for Cuz. They are both perfect for Karls offense.

In a dream world you would see Karl go ultra big with Casspi, Gay, and Acy/Willie next to Rondo and Cuz because that's a switch lineup that any coach would die for.

Good point. From listening to Karl it sounds like Acy is the odd man out.

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[SacKingZZZ]

Per usual for this season, it's going to have to be unrealistic offensive performance bailing out a deficit created by bad match ups.

This deficit was created by the three of my shooting of the Warriors. Everyone is experiencing that this season.

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Um, what team hasn't gotten whatever 3 they want from the Kings this year? In regards to the Kings this has nothing to do with anyone but them. The Kings went small, they doubled as a result, and just gave up the game right there. If this were restricted to when they play the Warriors it would be one thing but it's not. I mean, c'mon, Mavs game anyone?

[City of Trees]

Per usual for this season, it's going to have to be unrealistic offensive performance bailing out a deficit created by bad match ups.

This deficit was created by the three of my shooting of the Warriors. Everyone is experiencing that this season.

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Um, what team hasn't gotten whatever 3 they want from the Kings this year? In regards to the Kings this has nothing to do with anyone but them. The Kings went small, they doubled as a result, and just gave up the game right there. If this were restricted to when they play the Warriors it would be one thing but it's not. I mean, c'mon, Mavs game anyone?

Warriors have lost 2 games. Don't get too emotional here. Kings aren't good enough even with a better scheme on D

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[SacKingZZZ]

This deficit was created by the three of my shooting of the Warriors. Everyone is experiencing that this season.

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Um, what team hasn't gotten whatever 3 they want from the Kings this year? In regards to the Kings this has nothing to do with anyone but them. The Kings went small, they doubled as a result, and just gave up the game right there. If this were restricted to when they play the Warriors it would be one thing but it's not. I mean, c'mon, Mavs game anyone?

Warriors have lost 2 games. Don't get too emotional here. Kings aren't good enough even with a better scheme on D

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I'm not saying the Kings would have won, I'm saying they didn't put themselves in a position to win, and specifically not in a position to be a good or even adequate defensive team at times. Good defensive teams don't allow mismatches to be used against them in the same way, over and over. Game after game.

Go back to the Mavs game thread. I even noted then that the one time he went with more size in that game they got the stop. The other times they got caught in yet another bad match up and it practically nullified almost anything they could do defensively. Corner 3's/open 3's, and the small G lineups being used against the Kings are strategy related and quite interconnected. I've seen enough to know that the teams that take advantage of those things are going to continue to give the Kings fits.

Karl is the one preaching defense here yet he's putting in lineups like that. If it were working more than not offensively I could see the point, but we haven't really seen much advantage in any way out of him going small in the back court and on the wing. They don't shoot better, they aren't more athletic, they aren't more aggressive defensively. What happens is you often see players defending someone a half foot taller than they are or even more, which defensively pulls defenders away from the wing to help. The defense collapses and literally, the defense collapses.

Now, Karl has done some really good things lately offensively. This game wasn't as post oriented, but he finally ditched a lot of that dribble drive that also wasn't working for the majority of the year. Even Bobby Jackson mentioned it on the pregame saying they are running a lot of the split action out of the post that they used to run with Webber and Vlade lately which puts Cuz closer to the rim. Shocker alert, superstar Cuz has re-emerged since he did that. He made some needed adjustments offensively, now he simply needs to make adjustments defensively. Karl is right about one thing, he doesn't have a lot of pure defenders out there, but they shouldn't be this bad defensively. Now at least we are seeing moments of good D when he's got a full sized lineup with Beli/Ben and Acy/Willie out there at SG and PF so more of that please.

Losing to the Warriors or any given team isn't what's dangerous about what Karl is doing scheme wise. It's when the players play hard defensively and their heads drop because they get caught in a bad match up and give up an EASY basket as a result.

[City of Trees]

That corner 3 Curry shot turning around to taunt the Kings bench before the ball even went in the hoop was straight up NASTY!

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[City of Trees]

Um, what team hasn't gotten whatever 3 they want from the Kings this year? In regards to the Kings this has nothing to do with anyone but them. The Kings went small, they doubled as a result, and just gave up the game right there. If this were restricted to when they play the Warriors it would be one thing but it's not. I mean, c'mon, Mavs game anyone?

Warriors have lost 2 games. Don't get too emotional here. Kings aren't good enough even with a better scheme on D

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I'm not saying the Kings would have won, I'm saying they didn't put themselves in a position to win, and specifically not in a position to be a good or even adequate defensive team at times. Good defensive teams don't allow mismatches to be used against them in the same way, over and over. Game after game.

Go back to the Mavs game thread. I even noted then that the one time he went with more size in that game they got the stop. The other times they got caught in yet another bad match up and it practically nullified almost anything they could do defensively. Corner 3's/open 3's, and the small G lineups being used against the Kings are strategy related and quite interconnected. I've seen enough to know that the teams that take advantage of those things are going to continue to give the Kings fits.

Karl is the one preaching defense here yet he's putting in lineups like that. If it were working more than not offensively I could see the point, but we haven't really seen much advantage in any way out of him going small in the back court and on the wing. They don't shoot better, they aren't more athletic, they aren't more aggressive defensively. What happens is you often see players defending someone a half foot taller than they are or even more, which defensively pulls defenders away from the wing to help. The defense collapses and literally, the defense collapses.

Now, Karl has done some really good things lately offensively. This game wasn't as post oriented, but he finally ditched a lot of that dribble drive that also wasn't working for the majority of the year. Even Bobby Jackson mentioned it on the pregame saying they are running a lot of the split action out of the post that they used to run with Webber and Vlade lately which puts Cuz closer to the rim. Shocker alert, superstar Cuz has re-emerged since he did that. He made some needed adjustments offensively, now he simply needs to make adjustments defensively. Karl is right about one thing, he doesn't have a lot of pure defenders out there, but they shouldn't be this bad defensively. Now at least we are seeing moments of good D when he's got a full sized lineup with Beli/Ben and Acy/Willie out there at SG and PF so more of that please.

Losing to the Warriors or any given team isn't what's dangerous about what Karl is doing scheme wise. It's when the players play hard defensively and their heads drop because they get caught in a bad match up and give up an EASY basket as a result.

The 2015-2016 Kings are who they are, mainly due to coaching decisions.

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[bleeds_purple]

I thought the players brought the right level of energy. But now they need to start bringing the right level of intelligence.

We needlessly doubled to leave open players. The most egregious being doubling Green on the baseline, 15 feet from the rim, leaving a wide open layup. Cousins also got his usual one or two stupid fouls along with excessive three point shooting. Rondo made his expected bevy of crazy pass attempts that generally turn into unforced turnovers. I'm also sick and tired of watching our guards (particularly Rondo) crash the boards leaving the floor entirely unbalanced leading to easy fast break opportunities.

These are just basic errors that good teams do not make. Cumulatively they have a massive effect on games. And if we can manage to even fix a fraction of them we will be able to take the next step as a team.

Beyond that Karl's rotations continue to kill us. Belinelli at PF? Seriously? Koufos and WCS matched up against Barnes and Green? Ridiculous. There is no rhyme or reason to these choices. It's indefensible.