JJ Redick 50/40/90 Season?

[HeartBreakKid]

I'd trade him. Seriously, I would.

They need more from the wing than what he can provide.

I'd trade him now for solid rotational players of need (if there's a deal like that to be made).

He's scoring 17 ppg since the start of December and has the second highest TS% behind only Curry. He's top 10 in all guards on defensive rating, he maybe just okay as an on ball defender, but a very smart team defender. I'm just curious, how can the most efficient shooting 2 guard in the league putting up 17 ppg not considered a solid rotational player

He is beyond a solid rotational player, but he's not what they need.

They need length and some physicality from that position (along with shooting).

Put it this way: A Redick/Crawford platoon, for the Clippers, is worse to me than an Aflalo/Crawford platoon.

JJ Reddick is a premium offensive player, he is worth a lot more than Afflalo is. Afflalo wouldn't even be a significant defensive upgrade either, he is years removed from his best defensive season.

Ideally, your athletic physical perimeter defender should be your small forward, it is much more difficult to find a shooting guard that fits that mold.

[Forte IV]

He's so much better than Crawford, I wonder why he only plays slightly more minutes (Redick is averaging 27.4 minutes per game, Crawford 25.2), I guess maybe Redick doesn't have the stamina to play 30+ minutes on a regular basis, there's no other explanation, really...Really, I mean - their only value comes from their scoring, and Redick is shooting 48.5% FG and 48.1% 3P, for 64.3% TS, while Crawford is shooting only 38.4% FG, 31.3% 3P, for 51.2% TS.

Doc Rivers playing favorite is the real explanation I think.

Yeah, but the truth is he really doesn't have the stamina. I've been to a handful of games this year and once he comes out he goes straight to the floor and stretches out his back and his legs.

[tone wone]

His backcourt mate did it in the playoffs last year. 50/41/94

Paul and Redick were pretty easily the 2nd best shooting backcourt in the league last year. CP3 shot has regressed this year (i think the fractured finger is to blame). Hopefully he can regain his shooting touch.

[tone wone]

Yeah, but the truth is he really doesn't have the stamina. I've been to a handful of games this year and once he comes out he goes straight to the floor and stretches out his back and his legs.

How much better are the Clips if Redick and Paul could handle more minutes without breaking down?

27mpg for Redick
33mpg for Paul.

Thats shockingly low for a team so many questions in their 2nd unit.

[HeartBreakKid]

Yeah, but the truth is he really doesn't have the stamina. I've been to a handful of games this year and once he comes out he goes straight to the floor and stretches out his back and his legs.

How much better are the Clips if Redick and Paul could handle more minutes without breaking down?

27mpg for Redick
33mpg for Paul.

Thats shockingly low for a team so many questions in their 2nd unit.

Both players have pretty insane motors when they're on the court, it would be hard to play any more minutes. Redick is nonstop movement while Paul is guarding the other team's best guard.

[clippertown]

He's so much better than Crawford, I wonder why he only plays slightly more minutes (Redick is averaging 27.4 minutes per game, Crawford 25.2), I guess maybe Redick doesn't have the stamina to play 30+ minutes on a regular basis, there's no other explanation, really...Really, I mean - their only value comes from their scoring, and Redick is shooting 48.5% FG and 48.1% 3P, for 64.3% TS, while Crawford is shooting only 38.4% FG, 31.3% 3P, for 51.2% TS.

JJ is definitely better than Jamal but not in all aspects of the game. If JJ is not on the court with CP3, his productivity drops considerably. He is the kind of player that works well in the rhythm of the offense. Jamal on the other hand is a player that can create on his own and is somewhat unstoppable in a iso situation. His value is that Jamal is often required to create something when the offense falters and a difficult shot is necessary.

It is interesting that ever since JJ came to the Clippers, Jamal's usage has been enormous for a backup player. Its not just Doc. Vinny did the exact same thing. Personally, I believe that Jamal is highly undervalued on RGM. When he is hot, he immediately becomes the focal point of the opposing defense and that speaks volumes on his true value.

[NinjaSheppard]

Crawford is very stoppable in isolation situations.

The opposing team just lets him iso and reaps the benefits from it.

[JonFromVA]

I'm not a big fan of this statistical achievement. I think if a player WANTED to be a member of this group he could if he tried.

50-40-90 has become a benchmark for an all-around shooter, my problem is that while they're nice round numbers they're arbitrary. What we care about here is shooting efficiency - which is better measured by TS%, and volume as well as an ability to hit those shots when the game is on the line is pretty important too.

Of course it's no coincidence that the 3 members of the 50-50 club all enjoyed their season during the period when the 3pt line was shorter.

[j_n]

JJ is one of my all time favorite Magic players, he has always been a class act, one of the smartest players in the league hands down and obviously has a ridiculous work ethic, would love to see him back in Orlando or at least win a championship with the Clippers.

[ALL HAIL]

Is Redick, individually, better than Aflalo right now? Obviously ...

Do they have even remotely similar trade value? Of course not.

But this is a team game, and if I were Doc, I'd cash in Redick for two wings who provide grit (and can also shoot).

His trade value is through the roof right now, as high as it will ever be. The Clippers have no other real assets and they have definite holes up and down the lineup.

I'd trade Redick, not because the guys they'd be able to bring in would be better, or, in this case, possess more trade value, but because, hopefully, if executed properly, they'd give the Clips the intangibles they lack.

[nickhx2]

right lol. trade the 3rd most important player on the clips for an aging afflalo who can't do anything as well as jj can. he's almost literally the perfect piece for the team's starting unit and he's even better this year than last year.

trading jj is like taking 1 step forward and 10 steps backward.

[asianguy]

it would be amazing if he can finish the season with 50/50/90

[Phureal]

A lot of 50/40/90's or extra close this year. Off the top of my head J.J., Curry, Durant and Kawhi could all finish the year there.

I don't see Curry finishing over 50% fg. He can easily do it but he just takes too many tough shots.

[Duke4life831]

right lol. trade the 3rd most important player on the clips for an aging afflalo who can't do anything as well as jj can. he's almost literally the perfect piece for the team's starting unit and he's even better this year than last year.

trading jj is like taking 1 step forward and 10 steps backward.

Ya I'm having a hard time figuring out any positives there would be for trading JJ. Good luck finding another 2 guard that can put up 17 points playing off the ball the whole time and plays solid D on the other side. He is the perfect fit for CP3 and Blake. The only guy that does what JJ does better is Klay. These are the type of players superstars love to play with

[madmaxmedia]

I'm not a big fan of this statistical achievement. I think if a player WANTED to be a member of this group he could if he tried.

Maybe...if your ONLY goal was to reach these stats, and you didn't care about actually helping your team win. Because then you'd only take high percentage shots and pass up everything else. Pretty soon you'd be out of a job though, or forced to change that approach.

But I don't think that's what Redick meant when he said it was a personal goal of his...

[GuyverX]

I'm not a big fan of this statistical achievement. I think if a player WANTED to be a member of this group he could if he tried.

If all you cared about is stats, getting a couple wide open shots and passing up everything else for 82 games, you wouldn't be in the league for long. Redick is special because he keeps his percentages and scores 15+ a game. Redick also takes tough moving shots off screens, not just standing in the corner all game and waiting for a stationary, wide open 3.

And your statement implies that an average NBA player would be able to hit 50% from the field, 40% from 3 and be in the top 10 in the NBA at FT shooting. The majority of players can't even shoot over 85% FT's if their life depended on it (we're talking around 94% of the player population) never mind 50% from the field. And if you didn't notice, the players shooting 50% from the field are, unsurprisingly, forwards and centers.

The only 2 guards shooting above 50% are Curry and Tony Parker. JJ is next on that list at ~49%. This is amazing considering he only really shoots jumpers. Only 10% of his shots come in the painted area compared to 31% for Curry and a whopping 51% for Parker.

[ChargerMan]

I don't call him the SplashFather for nothin'.

[illastrate]

Yeah, but the truth is he really doesn't have the stamina. I've been to a handful of games this year and once he comes out he goes straight to the floor and stretches out his back and his legs.

How much better are the Clips if Redick and Paul could handle more minutes without breaking down?

27mpg for Redick
33mpg for Paul.

Thats shockingly low for a team so many questions in their 2nd unit.

Both players have pretty insane motors when they're on the court, it would be hard to play any more minutes. Redick is nonstop movement while Paul is guarding the other team's best guard.

Nobody has opposing players cause them around and fighting through screens more than Redick. Obviously it would be tiring to do this night in and night out, thus he has to maintain his rest.

[og15]

He's so much better than Crawford, I wonder why he only plays slightly more minutes (Redick is averaging 27.4 minutes per game, Crawford 25.2), I guess maybe Redick doesn't have the stamina to play 30+ minutes on a regular basis, there's no other explanation, really...Really, I mean - their only value comes from their scoring, and Redick is shooting 48.5% FG and 48.1% 3P, for 64.3% TS, while Crawford is shooting only 38.4% FG, 31.3% 3P, for 51.2% TS.

Doc Rivers playing favorite is the real explanation I think.

Yeah, but the truth is he really doesn't have the stamina. I've been to a handful of games this year and once he comes out he goes straight to the floor and stretches out his back and his legs.

Is the because of lack of stamina or because of previous injury issues? That said, I wouldn't want him playing 38.6 mpg like he did last post-season, which is why it would be nice to have more reliable depth at SG than Jamal and his usual post-season collapse of efficiency.

[nickhx2]

i imagine it's not as much of a stamina thing and more of a maintenance and back preservation thing, but it's hard to say.