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Post#21 » by NBADraft2003 » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:04 pm

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Post#23 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:11 pm

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Net Sentence wrote:Roy Williams to bring in............. Harrison Barnes. UNC connection



getting harrison barnes would be devastating to this franchise. we cant max out a role player.


Barnes has a ton of upside. He is a role player only because The best PG, SG and PF play on that team. The guy shoots close to 50/40/90 for god sake.

You hatin him makes as much sense as you hating Thad



1) i never hated thad. ive touted him over and over. you just choose to gloss over that part. i hate that thads contract prevents us from offering 2 max contracts. im fine with keeping thad if there is another way to offer 2 max deals, so unless lopez goes, i dont see keeping thad as the best option.

2) does barnes shoot that well if defenses dont have to focus on stephon curry and klay? the guy gets all the space and no focus or attention. I jsut dont see him being the guy that carrys you as a top 2 player to the playoffs, especially with all the focus on him and little talent around him. i might be wrong, i dont see him as someone who is going to go the harden route when given big touches and focus
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Post#24 » by Paradise » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:12 pm

Monty Williams is on the candidate list
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Post#25 » by Net Sentence » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:29 pm

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getting harrison barnes would be devastating to this franchise. we cant max out a role player.


Barnes has a ton of upside. He is a role player only because The best PG, SG and PF play on that team. The guy shoots close to 50/40/90 for god sake.

You hatin him makes as much sense as you hating Thad



1) i never hated thad. ive touted him over and over. you just choose to gloss over that part. i hate that thads contract prevents us from offering 2 max contracts. im fine with keeping thad if there is another way to offer 2 max deals, so unless lopez goes, i dont see keeping thad as the best option.

2) does barnes shoot that well if defenses dont have to focus on stephon curry and klay? the guy gets all the space and no focus or attention. I jsut dont see him being the guy that carrys you as a top 2 player to the playoffs, especially with all the focus on him and little talent around him. i might be wrong, i dont see him as someone who is going to go the harden route when given big touches and focus


1) You were just suggesting trading Thad for Delon Wright. Need I say more....

2) Lets not act like he just came out of no where. He was the #1 HS Recruit, went to the Elite 8 both as a Freshman and Sophomore, and was the 7th pick. Since being in the NBA he has gotten better every year and is a key contributor on the possibly the best team ever. He is a mixture of Glenn "Big Dog" Robinson and Glenn Rice, not Harden.

The biggest thing Im worried about this off season is giving a big contract to someone and they pull a DWill and stop working hard to get better. You dont have to worry about that with Barnes. He is known for being one of the hardest working players in the NBA and it shows in his improvement every year. He is only 23 years old and wont turn 24 til May. It's almost certain that he is changing teams. He would be good both on the floor and in the locker room.
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Post#26 » by Prokorov » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:37 pm

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1) You were just suggesting trading Thad for Delon Wright. Need I say more....


Dont be trollish, you're a better poster then that.

i suggested we trade thad for cap space(allwoing us to offer 2 max deals) and a rookie everyone here was high on.

2) Lets not act like he just came out of no where. He was the #1 HS Recruit, went to the Elite 8 both as a Freshman and Sophomore, and was the 7th pick. Since being in the NBA he has gotten better every year and is a key contributor on the possibly the best team ever. He is a mixture of Glenn "Big Dog" Robinson and Glenn Rice, not Harden.


im not saying he is a scrub. i also think the robinson/rice comparisons are off. those guys were elite scorers on both levels, and top 4 picks. both guys showed an ability to score as a top dawg on their teams, barnes has not done that. he is a good young player who is getting better. that doesnt mean he is a max player who can be a top 2 player on a playoff team. i think you are underselling the risk. that said, if you think he WILL be that kind of player i can see why you would want him. i dont think its likely he is quite that type of player

The biggest thing Im worried about this off season is giving a big contract to someone and they pull a DWill and stop working hard to get better. You dont have to worry about that with Barnes. He is known for being one of the hardest working players in the NBA and it shows in his improvement every year. He is only 23 years old and wont turn 24 til May. It's almost certain that he is changing teams. He would be good both on the floor and in the locker room.


you can get a good player who isnt a complete dwill type dog without taking a big risk on someone like barnes.
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Post#27 » by Shook Jones » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:47 pm

Dont like either choices.
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Post#28 » by CalamityX12 » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:28 pm

Paradise wrote:Monty Williams is on the candidate list

I like Monty too....

He shouldn't have been axe in the first place IMO
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Post#29 » by Mkdaman1818 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:09 am

CalamityX12 wrote:
Paradise wrote:Monty Williams is on the candidate list

I like Monty too....

He shouldn't have been axe in the first place IMO


I disagree... He was awful in late game situations and never seemed to quite know what he was doing in Nola. No thanks.
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Post#30 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:54 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:Damn...

I guess you learned from last time. Just don't say anything and wait & watch this come to fruition. :lol:


As soon as I saw his name as the OP I got light headed.
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Post#31 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:57 am

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getting harrison barnes would be devastating to this franchise. we cant max out a role player.


Barnes has a ton of upside. He is a role player only because The best PG, SG and PF play on that team. The guy shoots close to 50/40/90 for god sake.

You hatin him makes as much sense as you hating Thad



1) i never hated thad. ive touted him over and over. you just choose to gloss over that part. i hate that thads contract prevents us from offering 2 max contracts. im fine with keeping thad if there is another way to offer 2 max deals, so unless lopez goes, i dont see keeping thad as the best option.

2) does barnes shoot that well if defenses dont have to focus on stephon curry and klay? the guy gets all the space and no focus or attention. I jsut dont see him being the guy that carrys you as a top 2 player to the playoffs, especially with all the focus on him and little talent around him. i might be wrong, i dont see him as someone who is going to go the harden route when given big touches and focus


You bring up a fair question, but how many open shots do you see players on this team bricking left and right?

This includes Joe Johnson, who despite the attention he draws even at his deteriorated stage still clanks wide open J's

Barnes has shown he can knock down wide open Js. The question is, does he have more in his skill set to handle scoring responsibility?

You can't make an accurate assessment based off of his role on GS. He's a gamble, point blank.
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Post#32 » by Prokorov » Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:10 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
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Barnes has a ton of upside. He is a role player only because The best PG, SG and PF play on that team. The guy shoots close to 50/40/90 for god sake.

You hatin him makes as much sense as you hating Thad



1) i never hated thad. ive touted him over and over. you just choose to gloss over that part. i hate that thads contract prevents us from offering 2 max contracts. im fine with keeping thad if there is another way to offer 2 max deals, so unless lopez goes, i dont see keeping thad as the best option.

2) does barnes shoot that well if defenses dont have to focus on stephon curry and klay? the guy gets all the space and no focus or attention. I jsut dont see him being the guy that carrys you as a top 2 player to the playoffs, especially with all the focus on him and little talent around him. i might be wrong, i dont see him as someone who is going to go the harden route when given big touches and focus


You bring up a fair question, but how many open shots do you see players on this team bricking left and right?

This includes Joe Johnson, who despite the attention he draws even at his deteriorated stage still clanks wide open J's

Barnes has shown he can knock down wide open Js. The question is, does he have more in his skill set to handle scoring responsibility?

You can't make an accurate assessment based off of his role on GS. He's a gamble, point blank.


yup... cant make an accurate assement... exactly. im not willing to take that gamble, cause it if fails we get a 3 year period like this year. not something id want to bank on
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Post#33 » by Net Sentence » Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:17 am

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Prokorov wrote:

1) i never hated thad. ive touted him over and over. you just choose to gloss over that part. i hate that thads contract prevents us from offering 2 max contracts. im fine with keeping thad if there is another way to offer 2 max deals, so unless lopez goes, i dont see keeping thad as the best option.

2) does barnes shoot that well if defenses dont have to focus on stephon curry and klay? the guy gets all the space and no focus or attention. I jsut dont see him being the guy that carrys you as a top 2 player to the playoffs, especially with all the focus on him and little talent around him. i might be wrong, i dont see him as someone who is going to go the harden route when given big touches and focus


You bring up a fair question, but how many open shots do you see players on this team bricking left and right?

This includes Joe Johnson, who despite the attention he draws even at his deteriorated stage still clanks wide open J's

Barnes has shown he can knock down wide open Js. The question is, does he have more in his skill set to handle scoring responsibility?

You can't make an accurate assessment based off of his role on GS. He's a gamble, point blank.


yup... cant make an accurate assement... exactly. im not willing to take that gamble, cause it if fails we get a 3 year period like this year. not something id want to bank on


Nothing ventured; nothing gained.

You like to talk about having room for 2 max deals but there is only one Max Player available who isnt a gamble. I would bet on a 23 year old growing into a bigger rolr all day over some 28-29 year old who has already established his ceiling as a player
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Post#34 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:01 am

My take is, if the Nets take the risk on Barnes....ok.

if he doesn't work out within 3 years it won't matter. we can tank in 2019 and start over.

I don't believe the Nets will cut bait and trade assets right now for mid to late. More than likely, they will try to treadmill 16-17, 17-18, 18-19, and then tank. Mikhail openly said he "believed" that the team is 1-2 pieces away. bull. he wants to just get back into the playoffs until we can start over fresh. so i can definitely see Barnes getting maxed and lining up next to RHJ.
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Post#35 » by Shark » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:02 am

I don't mind Cal. In fact I'd say I like it. But I really hope that the rumored 10 year 120mil figure is a bit exaggerated. I mean I know that Prok doesn't mind paying the money if he has to, but it just seems like a bit much.
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Post#36 » by Mosdefinition » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:10 am

Prokorov wrote:
Net Sentence wrote:Roy Williams to bring in............. Harrison Barnes. UNC connection



getting harrison barnes would be devastating to this franchise. we cant max out a role player.


it really isnt that bad with the situation this team is in
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Post#37 » by Prokorov » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:25 pm

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Nothing ventured; nothing gained.

You like to talk about having room for 2 max deals but there is only one Max Player available who isnt a gamble. I would bet on a 23 year old growing into a bigger rolr all day over some 28-29 year old who has already established his ceiling as a player


"nothing ventured, nothing gained" to me is not something that applies to a franchise with very little room for error.

If you want to gamble on the ceiling of a young player who hasnt shown he can be a top guy on a playoff team, that is certainly valid. I just dont like that route unless i think the player is a cant miss star, and i dont view barnes as even a 50/50 shot at that... again, my opinion.

as far as 28-29 year olds with an established ceiling, well id rather that guy who reached his ceiling but is already an allstar top 1-2 player on a playoff team (the derozans and horfords).

the next 3 years we cant really afford to be a bad team, who is capped out with no picks. only route i see with barnes is scorched earth around him, where you gut the team of lopez and thad, and roll the cap money over 2 of 3 seasons
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Post#38 » by Prokorov » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:34 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:My take is, if the Nets take the risk on Barnes....ok.

if he doesn't work out within 3 years it won't matter. we can tank in 2019 and start over.


i dont think it is that simple. think of how bad the last 3 seasons were... that was WITH us making the playoffs 2 of the 3 years. think how tough this season is. now imagine doing this for 3 more years in a row. no chance this team is going go through 3-4 losing seasons, only to wait to tank in 2019... not to mention tanking ti self is a 2-5 year process. you are talking potentially 5-8 years of being bad.

I don't believe the Nets will cut bait and trade assets right now for mid to late. More than likely, they will try to treadmill 16-17, 17-18, 18-19, and then tank. Mikhail openly said he "believed" that the team is 1-2 pieces away. bull. he wants to just get back into the playoffs until we can start over fresh. so i can definitely see Barnes getting maxed and lining up next to RHJ.


i dont buy this. proky wants superstars here. he is going to hire guys he thinks can get those players. we might/probably will not get them, but thats his plan A for sure. he isnt a guy that wants to just make the playoffs
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Post#39 » by Prokorov » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:36 pm

Shark wrote:I don't mind Cal. In fact I'd say I like it. But I really hope that the rumored 10 year 120mil figure is a bit exaggerated. I mean I know that Prok doesn't mind paying the money if he has to, but it just seems like a bit much.


i dont get people who dont like the contract:

the money doesnt matter, doesnt count towards our cap. its also fair considering it would be just 1 million more then calipari makes now. if he is going to leave a great job he needs to at least be at the scale he is at now, with the longevity he would have had at KU

the years dont matter, we could cut bait at any time.
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Post#40 » by Prokorov » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:37 pm

Mosdefinition wrote:
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Net Sentence wrote:Roy Williams to bring in............. Harrison Barnes. UNC connection



getting harrison barnes would be devastating to this franchise. we cant max out a role player.


it really isnt that bad with the situation this team is in


we have few picks. we have few good players..... if we get barnes and he proves to just be a role player we are in the same spot only with no cap room as well.

i dont like that gamble based on what ive seen from barnes. i dont see primary 1-2 option from him

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